Baguazhang: Fighting Secrets of the Eight Trigram Palms: Amazon.ca: Erie Montaigue, Erle Montaigue: Books

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Closely related to taijiquan, baguazhang is one of the three internal arts and, like its counterparts, can be used to kill as well as to heal. Hidden within it is a series of brutal, relentless strikes applied quickly and mercilessly to the very deadly dim-mak points of the body. In this book, Eric Montaigue first introduces the original circular form, complete with photos of each posture and its practical application. Next he presents the linear or fighting form to teach the secrets of extracting an endless array of combat application. Next he presents the linear or fighting form to teach the secrets of extracting an endless array of combat applications from this complex art. If you appreciate the dual healing and martial qualities of dim-mak and other internal arts, this book will be an invaluable addition to your training library.

About the Author

Erle Montaigue was the first Westerner to be granted the degree of "Master" in taijiquan and dim-mak. In 1995 Erle was invited to study with Liang Shih-kan, the leader and "keeper" of the now almost extinct forerunner to taijiquan, the Wutan Shan System of Boxing, thus becoming the only Westerner and one of a handful of people to be taught the nine qi-disruptive methods. He serves as head of the World Taiji Boxing Association (WTBA), which has schools in more than 30 countries. He is highly regarded internationally as one of the leading instructors of the internal martial arts, including taijiquan

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1.0 out of 5 stars What a LOAD of UTTER T R A S H, May 30 2004

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This review is from: Baguazhang: Fighting Secrets of the Eight Trigram Palms (Paperback)

After reading this book, I feel Erle needs to take a long vacation, and then begin a course in a class on ethics in publishing.

The stuff in this book is a complete and total fabrication of nonsense. It rots from the outside in. Erle should really stick to doing taiji, that is what he is competent in at least. Bagua is NOT his bailiwick! This book is a complete and utter dismal product. If you wish to see a book, and know what NOT to look for in a book on bagua zhang, this book fits the bill, totally and completely.

I would put this book on the same scale as those by Ashida Kim.
Published just to part the gullible from their money. If you epect this book to have the same flavor andauthority of his taiji materials (such as they are), you are barking up the wrong tree here. This book was produced to seperate the unwise and unwary from their had earned cash.

In fact the last couple of Erles attempts at writing, like his "Book of Qi", for example, have been total trash. If you want better books on Bagua, you still have to go to the Chinese sources for the best. Other than that, I woul much rather recommend books by Dan Miller and Park Bok nam, followed closely by John bracy, and then some of the stuff put out by Jerry Alan Johnson (if you like your bagua to have a shaolin flavor).

The absolute best materials are those put out by Liu Jingru and C S Tang "Dragon Stretches its Claws", and secondly by Joe Crandall, and his bagua zhang series of translated works. But be forewarned, Joe Crandall does make errors in translating the books he puts out, but since he does a better job of it than just about anyone else, he can be forgiven for his minor errors.

Now, to conclude this review: Avoid, with all due care, this worthless excuse for a bagua book. I wouldn't even use the pages to wrap fish with. I might wrap used pampers with them though, as that is all they are fit for.

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1.0 out of 5 stars a complete system of fake bagua, Oct 28 2003

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majic wand ,the wrapped up fool (new york, ny) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Baguazhang: Fighting Secrets of the Eight Trigram Palms (Paperback)

When I 1st started reading this I wanted to laugh at the humorous misinfo Mr. Montaigue passes off as bagua. Then I realized that people have had so little access to the art they actually believe this absolute piece of garbage. 1st off, to claim bagua is essentially a dim-mak art is to show that Erle is quite entirely ignorant of the true nature of our work. It can play a factor but a small part of it. We don't simply 'pounding palm'-crash thru defences and poke at 'death-points' you poor fool. Much needs to be understood about how the gings are developed & nurtured. Your supposed techniques are external not internal, I'm sorry you have decieved yourself so long. Maybe your teacher never explained it, didn't know it, or hid it from you; either way U do not understand. I cross referenced Mr Montaigue's website & witnessed an even more disturbing example of fajin (external fajin?) If you really believe that is fajin you need to find a teacher to bring you back to the beginning. There is more to the power than those 'techniques' that leak out your Qi everywhere (& even worse what is there is off focus anyway). There is much to be said about the pure subtlety of what is expressed by bagua rather than take it down to this disgraceful level. I feel most sorry for people like the guy from SD that loved this book...do yourself a favor and keep this book as a reference to what baguazhang is not...or ignore what I'm trying to share with you & learn some fake external form of an internal art. You've been warned.

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3.0 out of 5 stars Difficult, takes much time to understand., Nov 21 2002

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"wudangshan" (Aberdeen, SD United States) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Baguazhang: Fighting Secrets of the Eight Trigram Palms (Paperback)

The information is good, and looks almost exactly like Chian rong-qiao's form presented in his book.
It took me a lot of time to understand this book, and unfortunately with such a complex art as bagua, you will find it hard to comprehend exactly how some of the forms are performed.
In the fourth palm change, the spinning around to a point behind you is so obscure, you can be sure to throw in the towel right away.
The rest of the book is great though, however expect to have to xerox the pages into a flip book to make it easier to work with when training, otherwise the book is so cumbersome it is rediculous unless you have book holders.
I recommend getting park bok nam's 2 books on pa kua chang also, so that you can understand the concepts a bit better.
Looking back I thought this was easy, but to a beginner, you might as well have cancer, as it is so difficult to start out with this book, as with any book, however by far this is one of the *BEST* I have seen.

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