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Beyond the Great Wall: Recipes and Travels in the Other China Hardcover – Apr 15 2008

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  • Hardcover: 304 pages
  • Publisher: Random House Canada; 1st edition (April 15 2008)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0679314776
  • ISBN-13: 978-0679314776
  • Product Dimensions: 3.8 x 28.6 x 25.4 cm
  • Shipping Weight: 2.1 Kg
  • Average Customer Review: 3.2 out of 5 stars 4 customer reviews
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #233,638 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
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Starred Review. Alford and Duguid, authors of the acclaimed Mangoes & Curry Leaves, explore the food and peoples of the outlaying regions of present-day China, historically home to those not ethnically Chinese. Part travel guide and part cookbook, this collection looks at the cultural survival and preservation of food in smaller societies including that of the Tibetan, Mongol, Tuvan and Kirghiz peoples, among others. The authors include vivid color photographs of food, people and places of cultural significance. Recipes are tantalizing and mostly simple, and ingredients are surprisingly easy to find. The book is sectioned by food type rather than ethnicity, covering everything from condiments and seasonings to fish and meats to drinks and sweets. Dishes have the hint of the familiar, such as Oasis Chicken Kebabs, Tibetan Pork and Spinach Stir-Fry, and Market Stall Fresh Tomato Salsa, while others are less common but equally tempting, including Kazakh Pulao, Steamed Tibetan Momos, and Home-style Tajik Nan. Peppered throughout are the authors' personal stories, which provide insight into each culture. A handsome and engaging collection suitable for travelers and cooks alike, this book will delight anyone with an interest in this part of the world.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. --This text refers to an alternate Hardcover edition.

About the Author

Jeffrey Alford and Naomi Duguid’s previous books have won numerous awards. Their most recent book was Mangoes and Curry Leaves: Culinary Travels through the Great Subcontinent. They live in Toronto with their two sons.

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Format: Hardcover
The authors of this book seemed to have a hard time deciding whether they were writing a travelogue with some recipes thrown in, or a cookery book that uses travel within a particular region as the focal point. The end result is that it fails to be much of either.

The pictures in this book are very nice (although mostly about people and places rather than food), and some of the facts about various ethnic minorities are somewhat interesting, but neither of these is why I bought the book. There is very little in the way of in depth analysis of food traditions, styles, philosophies or techniques and the recipes that are provided are, frankly, not that impressive. I can't help get the feeling that this pair went on a great trip and decided to capitalize on it by compiling a set of recipes that 'attempt' to capture the flavors if the places they visited.

Serious 'foodies' will probably be disappointed.
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In Beyond the Great Wall, Jeffrey Alford and Naomi Duguid share with us some of their travels in the border areas of China: Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, etc. Their approach is similar to their other books: they talk about some of the places they've been and people they've met, and they share recipes they collected along the way. Beyond the Great Wall is a combination travel book and cookbook, gorgeously illustrated with the authors' photographs.

I enjoyed the travel information and the photographs, but what I am chiefly interested in is the food. The recipes represent the food Alford and Duguid actually ate on their travels, food from people's homes and small family restaurants, not expensive restaurant fare. Some recipes surprised me at first, such as a tomato salsa from Guizhou, but a little thought reminded me that the Chinese have adopted foods from other places just like every other culture on Earth.

In most cookbooks, I find only one or two recipes that I really enjoy, but in this one there were many. Two have even become family favourites that show up repeatedly on our dinner table: Stir-Fried Stem Lettuce Lhasa-Style (we usually make it with pea tendrils instead of stem lettuce, per the authors' suggestion) and Dai Grilled Chicken. If you like Chinese food, but are tired of the same old Chinese restaurant recipes, I highly recommend this book.
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I have never in my life seen a cookbook like this. It is truly the most beautiful cookbook I have ever seen. If there is a foodie in your life, you must get them this book. If there is a photographer in your life, you must get them this book. As well, historians, people who appreciate a good story, or anyone even remotely interested in China, this is the book for you. I could not be happier with my purchase of it. Please do not pass this one over.
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Aside from some pretty pictures, painstickingly taken by the authors, this so-called cookbook is just a pile of hypocritic ignorance.

Since it is supposed to be a cookbook, I shall begin with the receipes. The authors was under the assumption that these receipes are very special and exotic, and Han Chinese oppression alone kept them from becoming popular fares. I think this view is simply ignorant, as I can keep nodding my head and say, "yup, I have seen this before" while flipping thorugh the pages, so somehow these foods (or people) managed to escape to the big cities.

But, in the mean time, there is something fishy about recipes presented within. I was not aware that the Chinese and the Mexicans have been exchanging knowledge in salsa making, nor was I aware of any fish found (in any quantity) in the mountainous regions of Tibet, or in the deserts of Xinxiang. Reading through their experience with their receipes, I couldn't help but think that they just made up a lot of these supposedly exotic receipes, using just whatever was available in their fridge at the moment.

Now I shall move on to the other part. It is now very fashionable, in the current political climate, for us to perceive China as the big evil Socialist machine, in the same way we saw the USSR in the Cold War. True, many of these ethnic minorities in China featured in this book do not share the economic prosperity that the rest of the country has enjoyed over the last two decades. True, clashes take place (a la Rodney King) between the Han majority and the minorities. The authors, in their moral high-horse, often referred these problems as "ethnic representation" or "oppression", without any understanding of the issues.
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54 of 58 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa1dab9fc) out of 5 stars Dazzling recipes and a wonderful ranging conversation with well-traveled, forthright friends May 19 2008
By Cassandra Kobayashi - Published on
Format: Hardcover
As the Introduction states, the world's borders would look very different if based upon food and culture. Chinese Muslims don't eat pork, and in rural Tibet, chicken is considered inedible. There are papayas in the south of China, and millet in the hot arid regions.

Beyond The Great Wall layers many elements on a strong foundation of interesting recipes - maps, food anthropology, and travel notes, generously illustrated with the authors' truly spectacular location photos, and evocative studio photos by Richard Jung, each carefully captioned.

The recipes require few special ingredients, and when they do, the resulting combination is a revelation, such as chile paste spiked with Sichuan peppercorns, or pomegranate-marinated lamb kebabs. Each recipe is thoughtfully introduced with suggestions for meal combinations, the dish's origin, thoughts on timing and ease of preparation. Eating your vegetables will be more interesting with new takes on salad, soup and vegetable sides. The Beef-Sauced Hot Lettuce Salad was a huge hit in my house when I was recipe-testing for the authors.

The bread chapter includes flatbreads, a loaf baked in a lidded pot, and little stuffed breads. For experienced noodle-makers, the variations in shaping and saucing are fascinating. For those new to handmade noodles, the pinch method in Earlobe Noodles provides an easy introduction.

The book doesn't pretend to be a catalog of "authentic" recipes, which would have us searching for riverweed or camel meat, and drying yak cheese on a yak-dung fire. Rather, this is a cookbook for those who want to enjoy foods and flavors from that part of the world, respectfully translated into the Western kitchen. And for those interested in tasting at the source, there is advice on planning a trip and sample itineraries. Fans of the authors' previous books will appreciate that the travel stories are attributed to either Naomi or Jeff. Finally, the Glossary is a good read in itself - how sprouting changes the nutrients in beans, or how to choose and make the most of Sichuan peppercorns.

My advice: buy this book and engage it like you would a wonderful ranging conversation with well-traveled, forthright friends.
51 of 58 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa1dabe04) out of 5 stars explore the cuisines of the other china May 10 2008
By Doc Dave - Published on
Format: Hardcover
Despite the glossy cover, this cookbook has been over 20 years in the making. It dates back to the authors' travels in tibet in the 80s, and then when plans for the book were made by their book agent, of further research trips in the 00s. Having visited China during the same timeframe dating to the 80s, I can attest to the wonderment of discovering the "other" China, of meeting caucasian chinese citizens from turkic tribes who speak perfect mandarin, of tasting perfect kebobs and roasts from mongolian and muslims cooks, of the religious mysticism of tibet. and it is this exotic "other" china on which this book is based on.

Since authentic cookbooks of even relatively well known minorities such as tibetans are hard to come by in english (and I suspect in chinese as well), it is a real treat to discover the cuisines of the uighurs and the mongols, and the dai and the hani, albeit for the most part reverse-engineered by the authors. Interspersed between the recipes are the authors' travel anecdotes of varying quality.

Indeed, it is their traveller's perspective passing through and re-engineering the dishes that admittedly exposes my own bias and ultimately my reservations about the book. With the bar for cookbooks set ever higher, the gold standard is for ethnic cookbooks to be written by cultural residents in the locales where the food is from, whether native or adopted, these people have had presumably years of experience making the food, as well as, the language skills and acumen(to get published!) in order to communicate this to us in the western mass market.

i certainly await the day when an enterprising young tuvan or uighur can share her grandmother's recipes with us (perhaps most likely in a blog rather than a glossy cookbook) but until that day comes, this book will remain a treasure.

i've had the pleasure of attending a forum hosted by james oseland, inviting jeff and naomi to discuss their new book. but i paid for my copy and do not have any financial disclosures to declare.
18 of 20 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa1dabe7c) out of 5 stars Interesting cookbook idea, not successful in the reality March 3 2012
By cxlxmx - Published on
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I had high hopes for this book, of finding interesting and exotic recipes from inner Asia and the Himalayas, etc. It's a good idea for a cookbook. However, the reality of it doesn't live up to the idea. The recipes aren't really that interesting. For example, there is a Tuvan recipe. Tuva! Most people don't even know of Tuva! However, when you turn to the recipe, the authors say that they're not sure if this is really a Tuvan recipe or a Khazakh one. And it turns out just to be basically a noodle and meat dish. Yawn. If they wanted to get interesting, they should have included a reindeer meat dish from Tuvan reindeer herders.

The book does have a lot of historical and geographical information, though, which I think is good for a book like this. For example, there is a chart of Asian language groups (Altaic-Turkic-Mongolic, etc), which you wouldn't normally expect in a cookbook, but which makes it more interesting to read a cookbook like this. And this is really what this cookbook is for: sitting on the couch and touring Asia in your lap rather than cooking up a storm of interesting foods. The book is very large and heavy and makes an extremely impressive coffee table book. Get it for that, but not for culinary satisfaction.
13 of 14 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa1dabc24) out of 5 stars wonderful book Aug. 20 2008
By Brenda Pink - Published on
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People should put aside any political thoughts about this book. It is a beautiful book and travelogue by the authors who have extensively travelled in the area and write the text portions based on their own experiences. I found no strong hints of any political agenda. What I found instead was an extremely interesting commentary on the wildly varied peoples of China - from all regions lesser known - including Tibetans. The photographs are stunning, showing the beauty of these people. The recipes are simple and easily followed even for those of us who don't always have access to exotic ingredients (alternatives are given). The book makes me want to visit these areas, meet these people and eat the food. What can be bad about that?
47 of 62 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa1dabf0c) out of 5 stars It's a cookbook July 2 2008
By John Peter Ferreri - Published on
Format: Hardcover
To the gentleman from china with the one-star rating. Patriotism can be a good thing. But this is a cookbook -- it's not a political tract. I own all the cookbooks this pair of folks has put out. They're wonderful writers, photographers and cooks. They show us all part of the world we'll never get to see.
Do they have opinions about Tibet ... quite possibly. I haven't received the book yet. But you waste your energy is posting a review like you did. It works against you, sir, and undercuts your cause. Reasonable people can disagree about the China/Tibet situation (can't they?). But to think that this cookbook is being released now to make a statement against China is just not plausible. China has plenty to be proud of (as the authors have shown in several of their earlier books). Your review does not reflect well on China.