i've carefully listened to catch without arms a dozen times now and i would have to say it is quite awful. i don't know if its from working with terry date or if U2 finally got to them, but they have really let things slide. as a whole, the album lacks the passion of el cielo and leitmotif. i could tell something was wrong when the beginning of ode to the sun immediately reminded me of brushstroke: debtfoabaaposba, thus signaling the beginning of the end of any progressive musical thought. the album didn't get anymore creative from there, as they chose to work within the bland formulaic structures of radio music, removing any experimentation with time signatures. dino's drumming is surprisingly weak compared to his past efforts. this is coming from the man who said he would never record the same beat twice. dredg has gone from one of the most inspiring bands to pop trash in one album. they are to their genre, as simple plan is to punk. Please ignore my 1 star review, as it truly deserves -58 stars (-39 for making a lousy album, -19 for selling out).