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Chinese Democracy [Explicit Lyrics]

Guns N Roses Audio CD
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4.0 out of 5 stars A Giant Leap for Gun-kind Jun 9 2010
By LeBrain HALL OF FAME TOP 50 REVIEWER
Format:Audio CD
I remember back in '95 reading an interview with Slash saying, "The new Guns will be out soon, I'm mixing it down, it's raw and heavy, back to basics." And then we all know what happened. Chinese Democracy, over a decade in the making, became both the biggest joke in rock and the most anticipated album of all time. Was it worth the wait? To fans, of course! (The Who have left longer gaps between albums, y'know.) Let's not forget that these 14 songs were just the tip of the iceberg, the 14 that Axl chose to be the next Guns albums. There are reportedly a couple dozen more waiting in the wings.

My first exposure to these songs came in 2001, after the Rock In Rio concert. My favourite song was "The Blues" (now renamed "Street of Dreams") but I loved "Chinese Democracy", "Madagascar" and a track called "Silkworms". Those of us who had heard the songs in advance of the album release were much more likely to enjoy the new GN'R for what it is: Axl attempting to keep the GN'R name going, and stay current. For better or for worse.

No, it does not sound like the blues-based majesty of old GN'R, but yet, it does rock. Hard. Add in some samples, lush ballads and some cool lyrics and we have a modern followup to Use Your Illusions I and II.

I won't sit here and defend Axl's decision to keep going with the name, but I will defend his choice of musicians. Even though the Rock In Rio lineup is already long gone, all those guys contribute to Chinese Democracy. That means you will hear solos by such virtuosos as Buckethead, Robin Finck, and Bumblefoot. You will hear drums by Brain. You will have contributions from everybody. Hell, you will even get one song that dates back to the Slash n' Duff years called "This I Love", another epic ballad. So there is a connection here to the old band. Neither Slash nor Duff are credited with anything on this song, but that is your thread to the old band right there.

This album is chock full of riffage. The title track itself is a monster even if it lacks a real chorus. Axl loads the album full of vocal hooks, piano hooks, guitar hooks -- this album make have more hooks per minute than any other in history, who knows? He certainly had time to come up with them and pack them in.

This is an even more dramatic GN'R than anything before. Some might say over-dramatic. Yet, boiled down, "Street of Dreams", "Madagascar", "Better", these are all emotion-drenched tunes and extremely well written and executed. The production, as expected, is thick and sweet. Maybe too sweet. A tune like "If The World" for example might have been better served with more basic guitar oriented production? Who knows? I'm sure Axl has done a thousand mixes of each of these songs before selecting these final versions.

Highlights: "Better" for its angry, awesome riffage. "Street of Dreams" as the natural successor to "November Rain". The title track for anger and aggression. "Madagascar" as the next "Cival War".

Lowlights: Wasn't much into "Scraped", "If The World", and the overly-techno "Shackler's Revenge". Illusions had filler too, y'know.

Most of all I love the playing. These are some of the best players in the world, bar none. Plus a guy like Tommy Stinson is a rock veteran equivalent to Axl himself, and with these kinds of experienced rockers on board, Chinese Democracy was bound to be impressive. What Chinese Democracy lacks are two things:

1. Real Guns chemistry. Yes, the band toured sporadically, nailing down these songs, but you can tell that the band did not eat, breathe, and live these songs like Axl did. It's in the grooves and you can hear it. Listen to Appetite and you will hear a band that is of one mind.

2. A suitable predecessor. If Guns had even one interim album to bridge the sounds and introduce new members gradually, Chinese Democracy wouldn't sound like such a shock to the old-timer fans. However, it turns out that Chinese Democracy is as close to a bridge as we will get, to even more extreme future Guns sounds.

Stay tuned for the next two albums which Axl says are going further into the techno-direction as previewed with "Silkworms". According to some, there are killer tunes waiting to be unleashed such as "The General" -- whenever Axl feels motivated to finish them.

4 stars.
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8 of 11 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Worth the wait Nov 21 2008
Format:Audio CD
It's a terrific record and, as several critics have pointed out, maybe the last "Old Media" album we'll ever see -- something that wasn't made to be listened to on an iPod. It's far from perfect, and I should probably award it four-and-a-half stars, but I give Axl Rose the extra half or three-quarters for sheer chutzpah, and for trampling the sneers of his detractors with this sprawling and fascinating project. Many of the best cuts have already been widely leaked and bootlegged, but they all sound better here -- none more so than "Better," which won't leave your head once you've heard it, and the raunchy "I.R.S." Sure, it's obsessively overproduced; but unlike on other Guns N' Roses cuts (e.g., "November Rain," which only worked live), the result isn't a limp and bloodless sound. Instead it's sonically intricate and intriguingly pompous, like an old Queen record or, for that matter, "Use Your Illusion II." And Axl shows a new depth with a couple of the love ballads, which transcend the schmaltz of "Don't Cry" and sound genuinely felt.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing! Dec 28 2008
By Customer from Quebec TOP 500 REVIEWER
Format:Audio CD
I was so skeptical about this album, I was reluctant to hear it. But after two or three plays it really grew on me! It may sound a blasphemy, but I think this is the most mature and heartfelt album from GNR. And it truly shows that Axl Rose is the talent and the main driving force of the group. Removing all previous musicians makes the album sound even better than the old ones, and this is their only album without fillers (The two Use Your Illusion albums were full of them). The vocals are marvelous, the arrangements-complex (not like the new trend-oriented fast-food metal). This blast from the past is actually a breath of fresh air in a metal scene increasingly filled with clichés. Highlights of the album-Better, Sorry, Magadascar (reminds me of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir), This I love (has the vibe of a Queen ballad), and the prog-song Prostitute. Actually, the title song is a bit ordinary and sounds like a series of GNR songs I don't like, but I like the concept of it. Worth the wait. Hope the next one won't be in 2023 though.
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Published 18 months ago by majek
1.0 out of 5 stars Chinese Democracy - voting against this CD
Just short and to the point - this CD sucks. There are a couple of decent songs on this CD, but for the most part, it almost seems like Axl Rose no longer has song writing... Read more
Published on Mar 8 2011 by puerto_franco
5.0 out of 5 stars Great CD, very well-crafted
This is a brilliant rock CD crafted by really talented musicians/songwriting. A more mature, sophisticated style from a more mature artist who had no choice but to leave his... Read more
Published on May 15 2010 by Valerie
5.0 out of 5 stars "Axl Really Suprised Me With This"
It's still hard to believe that Axl Rose has finally released the long awaited "Chinese Democracy" album. Read more
Published on Sep 19 2009 by Tommy Sixx Morais
2.0 out of 5 stars No Way In Hell Worth The Wait!!!
Ive been a hUGE GNR fan since Appetite. And like many, I couldnt wait to hear this, but this album is the most pathetic, dissapointing , and SAD 'comeback' album Ive ever heard! Read more
Published on July 19 2009 by Dino Pagliaroli
4.0 out of 5 stars Unmistakably Guns n' Roses
If you're a fan of Guns n' Roses then this is worth buying. Although not the best GnR album and definitely not worth the 14 year wait. It is still awesome. Read more
Published on Mar 6 2009 by Buggy
4.0 out of 5 stars This Is Not Your Dad's Guns N Roses...
Fourteen years. That's how long this 'on again-off again' album took to complete. Was it worth the wait? No CD is worth a 14-year wait. Is it a good album? Yes. Read more
Published on Jan 1 2009 by Paul S. Power
4.0 out of 5 stars WOW
I just purchased Chinese Democracy a few days ago, and must say that I was totally blown away, because i didn't expect much. This is a great cd that hasn't left my car stereo. Read more
Published on Dec 29 2008 by Tomas Volanek
5.0 out of 5 stars A Bit Misleading
Axl insists that this is not a solo album - that this was a true "band" effort. If so, this band is definitely NOT Guns N' Roses. But it doesn't really matter. Read more
Published on Dec 26 2008 by Killer Muhari
4.0 out of 5 stars Nice to see they didn't cave in to the loudness war
This is a good album. The volume is quite lower than most recent records, and that's a good thing, as it sounds great when you crank up the volume on your player. Read more
Published on Dec 9 2008 by D. Roy
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