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I Don't Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression
 
 

I Don't Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression [Paperback]

Terrence Real
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When Terrence Real was studying to be a therapist, he accepted the notion that women suffered depression at rates several times that of men. Now he believes that conventional wisdom is wrong, that there has been a great cultural cover-up of depression in men. Real is convinced of the existence of a mental illness that is passed from fathers to sons in the form of rage, workaholism, distanced relationships from loved ones, and self-destructive behaviors ranging from stupid choices at work and in love to drug and alcohol abuse. Men reading I Don't Want to Talk About It will probably recognize themselves in every chapter, while women will recognize their partners--and, of course, both sexes will see their fathers in a new light.

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Hidden male depression is the focus of this clear, compelling book by a Massachusetts family psychotherapist who specializes in working with dysfunctional men. Because our culture socializes boys to mask feelings of vulnerability, he says, they bury deep within themselves damaging childhood trauma and its ensuing depressive effects when they become men. This strongly reasoned study starts out with an illustration of the "toxic legacy" that is passed, often for generations, from father to son, with each chapter adding another piece to the complex face. The lucid exposition of ideas is made more vivid through dramatizing. Real uses "composite" cases, so no actual person is depicted except the author himself. One of the most arresting aspects of the book is the autobiographical thread that he weaves throughout. Real's central concern is what he calls covert depression, a pain-filled, inchoate state that may or may not eventually erupt into overt depression. The book is wise beyond its stated scope: in setting up a model for the nature, etiology and treatment of male depression, Real ends up offering-with some gender variants-an almost universal paradigm. BOMC, QPB and One Spirit alternates.
Copyright 1996 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Will open your eyes to a world you never knew existed, July 30 2003
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This review is from: I Don't Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression (Paperback)
This is a well written book about male depression, filled with case studies that the author has overseen throughout his years as a psychotherapist. The style of prose is easy to read and the book avoids technical jargon.

A distinction is made between covert (or hidden) depression and overt depression - the type which is plain for the world to see. Covert depression in many cases is hidden from the victim himself. The author suggests a strong link between covert depression and addictive behavior.

Although the book was very educational, it left me with an overwhelming feeling of sadness. Case after case after case of abuse, violence, despair and hate leaves the reader with a profound sorrow and a feeling that the world is a terrible place.

Male depression is a "legacy" in the sense that it can be passed down through the generations. In many cases, a father is not able to come to grips with his own psychological afflictions and in turn these manifest themselves in the child when he grows up to be a man.

Male depression can also spring from cultural expectations. Men try to conform to the stereotype of "strong, silent". If a man is an alcoholic or addicted gambler, these are conditions that are seen as curable. However, if a man chooses to discuss his emotions or behaves in a manner which might be considered as feminine, then he is avoided like a leper and socially ostracized.

The book concludes with a powerful message - that it is necessary in life to nurture relationships and have a goal in life that is larger than personal gratification. This is a personal quest on which I am currently embarking.

I have no negative things to say about the book and would highly recommend its purchase!

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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Didn't "Connect" - Something Missing, Oct 5 2000
This review is from: I Don't Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression (Paperback)
My therapist mentioned that I may want to read this book as my husband seems to be suffering from male depression, in an effort to help me understand him better.

As I read it, I just didn't feel like anything "clicked" when it came to my husband and his behaviors. A snippet here, a snippet there ... but in general, the book didn't help me understand him any better.

For instance, when the author discussed different types of father-ing styles, none of the "types" seemed to fit my husband's father. Maybe a little bit of one or two of the styles, but not enough to make me feel that the combination of these "bits" gave any helpful insight or true understanding of his father ... or my husband for that matter. The same held true of the author's thoughts on mothering styles. (which seemed somewhat chauvanist, bordering on misogynistic at times,)

Perhaps, as a woman, I couldn't "see" the things that men would see in this book.

When I spoke to my therapist later about it, he conceded that he had received similar comments from other patients (including men) regarding this book and said that "The Pain Behind the Mask", (another book on male depression) seemed more applicable and helpful.

In general, it made SOME good points, but something important was missing.

I don't reccommend it personally, but that is only personal experience and doesn't mean it wouldn't help someone else.

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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Just because it makes you weepy..., Jan 4 2000
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I picked up this book at the library for the title. I was interested in depression and if someone was willing to narrow it to being male, all the better. This book does not do it.

The author harvests his rolodex. We read anecdote after anecdote about big men with said childhoods. One had been beaten by his father. Another had been orphaned and had to go live with a cruel aunt. After about twenty pages of beatings and abuse, I was pretty weepy. The author's style seems to be getting these men to open up in therapy with the wife and family, spreading around deep personal pain, and getting everybody to start having some good cries.

But just because it makes you cry doesn't mean it's good for you. This book focuses mainly on psychotherapy, but there are many contributors for depression. For example, if you're feeling beaten down at work, psychotherapy with the wife and kids will probably make you feel worse. Readers should also be aware this book goes down the same murky route Robert Bly walked in his book "Iron John", talking about wounded heros and other bits of male mythology.

I would suggest most male suffering from mild depression don't need a book like this. For practical help with depression, I can recommend "Dealing with Depression Naturally" by Syd Baumel. His list of options is truly exhaustive. You can decide for yourself which route you want to go down.

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