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Empires Peter and Paul

Salome Jens , Michael Chin , Douglas Cheek    NR (Not Rated)   DVD
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Early Christianity faced powerful obstacles. The might of the Roman Empire and the power-politics of ancient Jerusalem laid a heavy burden on those who believed Jesus was "the Messiah." But this new faith would not die. In a brief span of time, the fledgling religion would transcend its origins in the provinces of Rome and absorb the capital of the empire itself. With the words of Paul and other ancient writers, interviews with contemporary scholars and dramatic reenactments, Peter and Paul explores how two men weathered crippling disagreements and political persecution to lead one of history's most astonishing religious movements.

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2.0 out of 5 stars Historical records ignored in favor of pet theories, Mar 14 2004
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Young Foosha (Eastpointe, MI) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Empires Peter and Paul (DVD)
I never cease wondering at the blatantly mishandling the PBS Empires series gives to Biblical topics. It was bad enough when The Kingdom of David ignored the possibility of any historical substance in the Bible's first 5 books (Pentateuch), and instead gave some theologian's pet theory that scribes in Babylon had WRITTEN (not compiled) the Old Testament narrative.

Now writer and producer Margaret Koval steps up to bat by selectively throwing out the historical record of the New Testament (which is arguably one of the most accurate historical records from antiquity, as ably argued in the book, "More Than A Carpenter"), and introduces some logical yet completely invented theories as to the rise and spread of Christianity by Jesus' early followers, most notably Peter and Paul. Mrs. Koval ignores various contents of Paul's own letters which would completely discredit some of the ideas presented in this program.

For example, the program's theme is the supposed transition of Christianity by Peter and Paul from an immediate expectation of God's kingdom on earth to a delayed expectation that rose into the 1970-yr-old Christianity that remains today. Let's compare some of the program's assertions point by point to the New Testament historical narrative which was obviously ignored:

COMPARISON #1:

PBS' PETER AND PAUL: States that Christianity started spreading because Jesus' followers saw a vision of him while fishing, and through their own logic and initiative decided that they must prepare for God's kingdom to literally come. And so they initiated the act of telling others about Jesus' resurrection and the imminent establishment of God's kingdom on earth.

BIBLICAL HISTORICAL NARRATIVE: States that Christianity's spread was a direct result of Jesus' commands to do so. Matthew 28:19-20 and John 21:15-16 recount how Jesus gave his followers an explicit command to go into all the world and make disciples, teaching them to observe everything that Jesus had commanded, and how after his resurrection, Jesus commanded Peter to take care of his followers ("feed my sheep"). Jesus also stated (as recorded in Acts 1) that hiw followers would be his witnesses not only to the Jews, but also to Samaritans and to the ends of the earth. Although Jesus' followers struggled with the transition of taking Jesus' message to the nations, Jesus' command is still clear.

COMPARISON #2:

PBS' PETER AND PAUL: States that Peter was not evangelistic-minded at first, and that the number of believers when Stephen was murdered in Jerusalem only numbered a few hundred.

BIBLICAL HISTORICAL NARRATIVE: States in Acts 1:1-9; 2:1-4,41 that Jesus told his followers to wait in Jerusalem until they were filled with the Spirit (so they would have power to be Jesus' witnesses). States that this occurred on the day of Pentecost (or 1 week after Jesus was taken into heaven). According to the Biblical account, on this day (the first day of spiritual "open season"), Koval's non-evangelistic Peter gave a sermon that won over 3000 converts. This was well before Stephen's murder, when Koval claims the # of converts was only a couple hundred.

COMPARISON #3:

PBS' PETER AND PAUL: Repeatedly states that Jesus' immediate followers and the early church were expecting the imminent coming of the literal rule of God on earth (the "apocalypse", as they termed it).

BIBLICAL HISTORICAL NARRATIVE: In Acts 1:6-8, Jesus' followers asked the resurrected Jesus about this specifically. Jesus responded that it was not for them to know the times or seasons that God had set, and that in the meantime they would become witnesses to the ends of the earth (kinda difficult to get that in if God's kingdom is being set up a week from Friday). Furthermore, Paul clearly was NOT expecting the imminent return of Jesus to set up his kingdom , as seen in 2 Thessalonians 2. Here, Paul says that Jesus won't return to earth until two things happen: First, the great apostacy (falling away from truth) must occur, and second, the man of lawlessness or son of perdition (a.k.a. the "antichrist) must be revealed. Paul flat out states that until you see these two recognizable signs, Jesus hasn't returned. And the New Testament narrative is clear that Jesus will set up his kingdom on earth, not during an initial return by Jesus to "catch away" his followers, but during a second return later on.

CONCLUSION:

I could continue with more examples, but I hope from these few that you see how the show's assumptions and theories-presented-as-fact rob it of historical value. What a blatant mockery of the historical narrative to present a story that ignores the very statements of the historical narrative on which the story is based! Though many of the program's statements are in line with, and derived from, the Biblical historical narrative, these are so completely interwoven with "Disneyland Imagineering" as to make the program a laughing stock among serious Biblical historians.

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2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars The Empire of Human Longing, Feb 25 2009
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J. Komar - See all my reviews
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A fair assessment of this film may lie somewhere between the extremes of its previous three reviewers, one of whom seems uncritically positive (if uninformed), while the other two seem unable to think beyond the criteria of their creeds. But that's how religious opinions often go.

Some of the world's top New Testament scholars, with a wide range of opinion, appear in the film: Anglican bishop Wright, ex-Roman Catholic priest Crossan, and Jewish New Testament scholar Levine. While some might criticize the omissions or slant of some of their comments, they trace a common path which sketches the roles of Peter and Paul in transforming the Christian faith from a provincial sect within Judaism into a worldwide religion enduring over 20 centuries.

The film would probably have been better appreciated if it said more about the human factors which facilitated the transformation initiated by Peter and Paul. Into a world where about 55% of the population were slaves, where the average life span did not exceed 3 decades, where disease, ignorance, superstition, cruelty, the privilege of ill-gotten wealth, and all the human degradation associated with slavery and the divine right of corrupt Roman emperors were rampant, into this world these two apostles brought the universal concepts of the love of God and the dignity of human life as witnessed in Jesus of Nazareth.

Call it Christianity or call it Judaism for the masses; call it what you will, but live it! It was indeed a revolution. And it is wonderful to see some of the sharpest minds of both faiths searching for the truth together, even if one does not always share their opinions!
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3 of 6 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Enthralling and epic!, Nov 11 2003
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This review is from: Empires Peter and Paul (DVD)
Here is a dvd that will pull you into it's world and won't let go until it is over...This Documentary will teach you things about Christianity that you might never have known it is very insightful and entertaining...there are many location shoots and re-enactments...You wont be dissapointed...It is also in 16x9 WIDESCREEN Anamorphic...Highly recommended
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