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Forever Peace [Mass Market Paperback]

Joe Haldeman
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Jan. 15 2002 Remembering Tomorrow
2043 A.D.: The Ngumi War rages. A burned-out soldier and his scientist lover discover a secret that could put the universe back to square one. And it is not terrifying. It is tempting...

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Julian Class is a full-time professor and part-time combat veteran who spends a third of each month virtually wired to a robotic "soldierboy." The soldierboys, along with flyboys and other advanced constructs, allow the U.S. to wage a remotely controlled war against constant uprisings in the Third World. The conflicts are largely driven by the so-called First World countries' access to nanoforges--devices that can almost instantly manufacture any product imaginable, given the proper raw materials--and the Third World countries' lack of access to these devices. But even as Julian learns that the consensual reality shared by soldierboy operators can lead to universal peace, the nanoforges create a way for humanity to utterly destroy itself, and it will be a race against time to see which will happen first. Although Forever Peace bears a title similar to Joe Haldeman's classic novel The Forever War, he says it's not a sequel. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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Veteran sf writer Haldeman views this novel not as a continuation of but as a follow-up to the problems raised in his highly acclaimed 1975 novel, Forever War. In the Universal Welfare State in 2043, draftees and volunteers link their brains to "soldierboy" war machines that do the actual fighting hundreds of miles away. Black physics professor and linked draftee Julian Class; his white mentor and lover, Dr. Amelia Harding; and her colleague Peter discover that the high-profile Jupiter Project is about to re-create the Big Bang that will destroy the solar system. The original 20 survivors of an experiment to link brains via implanted jacks discover they can turn people into pacifists by linking them for two weeks. Together with Julian and Amelia, the group stays one jump ahead of assassins as they try to stop the project and pacify key figures. At once a hard science, military, and political thriller, this book presents a thoughtful and hopeful solution to ending war in the 21st century. Essential for sf collections.
Copyright 1997 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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5.0 out of 5 stars excellent sf good story March 22 2004
By S. HONG
Format:Mass Market Paperback
i remembered reading a book called "all my sins remembered" (AMSR) as a boy of 11 or 12. at that age i was pretty much into SF what with star_wars (later to be retitled 'episode IV a new hope'), 2001 a space Odessey Battlestar Galactica on TV, Star Trek - original series, close encounters of the 3rd kind. AMSR struck something like a bell in me, it was to me a different sort of SF, very well remembered sort of SF.
getting back to 'Forever Peace'. fast forward to some 20 years on i read it after 'Forever War' which i first came across on a dark horse comic publication. this was a long time ago - about 4 years ago. so what business do i have writing a review about it now? i can talk about the impression FP had on me just like AMSR did. like drinking good hot coffee.
the message is often the same: the numbing senselessness of war on the very immediate personnal level. fighters fought because they had to. call it fate or karma. there is often no right or wrong but there are the fortunate and the unfortunate, the quick and the dead, the smart and the stupid, and caught in between the rough stuffs and the really rough stuffs is love, um, isn't it like in the office this morning? maybe not and well, i'm not a soldier but i don't have to be one to appreciate books on the subject or know what the writer is saying.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Disappointing Jan. 25 2004
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I am a big fan of THE FOREVER WAR, but this "prequel" is highly disappointing, especially if you were expecting much more (like me) based on your love of WAR. Like another reviewer stated, the first third of the book is what makes the novel OK overall: The planet is essentially locked in a First vs. Third World conflict, as technology has made the former's society a "universal welfare state" due to "nanoforges," which can essentially make anything. Want in the First World has been expunged. However, the Third World has no (or little) access to the nanoforges, and has launched a global guerrilla war as a result (or so it seemed to me). However, it's pretty obvious that Haldeman wants to place blame on the North (First World) as unwilling to share its monopoly on the nanotech, and demonstrates this not-so subtlely throughout the first third of the book. (It was interesting to read his knowledge of Costa Rica as that's my second home.) Implications that the North planned nuclear destruction of its own city and other conspiracies are numerous. Maybe Haldeman's Vietnam experience is responsible for this, and is understandable.
I was disappointed by what seemed Haldeman's favorable position towards the ultimate "peace." Forcible brain-washing? Come ON! It says something that I found myself agreeing w/the contemptible Ingram in that the "humanizing" procedure "takes away our humanity!" As another reviewer said, it's incredible that the biggest dissenters to the "humanizing" would be some fringe rightist religious cult. No way, man. I'd be right in there protesting too.
I thought the side premise of the Jupiter Project was intriguing; I actually found myself wishing more would be elaborated on that. Oh well.
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Unlike "Forever Free", "Forever Peace" is not a sequel to author Joe Haldeman's award-winning landmark novel "Forever War". Some view it as an ideological sequel, if not an actual one. I'm not sure I agree with that, as "Forever Peace" is a vastly different story with different characters and a much earlier timeline. The only similarities lie in the books respective disdain for war. "Forever Peace" is not up the level of quality of "Forever War", but it is still a good book.

The story of "Forever Peace" centers on a full-time college professor and part-time combat soldier named Julian Class. Julian is part of a new breed of soldier that doesn't physically fight the battles themselves. Through robotic and biological advancements that bear many similarities to the methods used in the "Matrix" movies, soldiers are now operators whose minds are 'plugged-in' to the warrior-robot machines (called 'Soldierboys') they control and the platoon members they control these robots with. While not putting the soldiers in any imminent physical danger, the control of the Soldierboys does bring about the high risk of mental and emotional wounds. These Soldierboys are used primarily to put down uprisings in Third World countries. These uprisings are caused primarily by conflicts over control of a technology called nanoforges, which are machines capable of designing and creating almost any physical product necessary for survival and prosperity. In the midst of the strife caused by uprisings, there is also the planned unveiling of the most ambitious and massive scientific experiment ever conceived.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Not my cup of tea, but well written... Sept. 12 2003
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STORY: As some editorial reviews put it: Veteran sf writer Haldeman views this novel NOT as a continuation of but as a follow-up to the problems raised in his highly acclaimed 1975 novel, Forever War. Julian Class is a full-time professor and part-time combat veteran who spends a third of each month virtually wired to a robotic "soldierboy." The soldierboys, along with flyboys and other advanced constructs, allow the U.S. to wage a remotely controlled war against constant uprisings in the Third World. The conflicts are largely driven by the so-called First World countries' access to nanoforges--devices that can almost instantly manufacture any product imaginable, given the proper raw materials--and the Third World countries' lack of access to these devices. But even as Julian learns that the consensual reality shared by soldierboy operators can lead to universal peace, the nanoforges create a way for humanity to utterly destroy itself, and it will be a race against time to see which will happen first."
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1) SETTING - the story takes place in 2043 a.d. on Earth. There are references to space travel, but the entire drama and story take place on an Earth where political forces are at war in every country. Thus a world at war with itself is believable. Also, Haldeman employs scientific advances that are reminiscent of cyberpunk stories like Neuromancer and the like.
2) CHARACTERS - Julian Class and Dr. Amelia Harding are the two protagonists. Characters are likeable and flawed. Julian is mostly flawed due to the society he has grown up in, the job he has been recruited to and the challenges of changing it all. But he moves forward amidst his flaws which makes him likeable. The overall cast is interesting, but don't get involved much.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Terrible ending
Good writing, great pace but the ending is terrible. I do not like to spend hours reading a book and realize at that the author just did not know how to finish that story.
Published 16 months ago by Sebastien Bouchard
2.0 out of 5 stars Second half was not for me
FOREVER PEACE started off great - the first half set up an interesting world and protagonist. But half way through it turned into a conspiracy thriller and it lost me. Read more
Published 19 months ago by f.v.
2.0 out of 5 stars A good story line with a rush to an end.
When I first started to read this novel I was getting interested in the beginning up to the halfway mark. Then a really good twist to the novel that makes me want to read more. Read more
Published on June 11 2012 by Pen Name
4.0 out of 5 stars Not as good as Forever War, but good
The main character is a soldier in the not so distant future. The world is primarily split between the developed countries and the have-nots. Read more
Published on July 19 2004
3.0 out of 5 stars Interesting take on the 'you will be assimilated' conspiracy
We've all read (or seen movies about) insidious conspiracies in which some sort of sinister force starts taking over people's minds. Read more
Published on June 13 2004 by Student
3.0 out of 5 stars Dissapointing 2
I have never read Haldeman before. The only thing I knew he is considered a good writer, so I decided to read a sf novel from a good author. Read more
Published on June 9 2004 by JEO
5.0 out of 5 stars Combat SF in the Haldeman Style
Great Haldeman book -- his classic mixture of warrior-healer is very much in force here (i.e. first he kills you then he heals you). Read more
Published on Sept. 22 2003 by Gordon Rios
3.0 out of 5 stars Forever Flawed
This book contains a great novella, about an individual dealing with his military service as a remote soldier-boy, operating a military robot miles away from a protected base. Read more
Published on Aug. 2 2003 by David Hood
5.0 out of 5 stars Visionary description of near-future sociopolitics.
Such vision!!
The war between the rich and the poor worlds, partly economic and partly racist, is a plausible description of what could happen if the "3rd World" actually... Read more
Published on July 22 2003 by M. Haque
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