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Guide to the Sabbat [Hardcover]

Justin Achilli , Jess Heinig , Bill Sienkiewicz
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Before I read this book, I knew very little about the Sabbat. From what little I could gather from various websites, it appeared to be a formalized gathering of anarchists, antitribu, Tzimisce, Lasombra, and other malcontents who chose to set themselves up as an opposition sect to the Camarilla. Masquerade? BAH! Kine are food. Allow your hunger to run rampant through the streets of the mortal world. Who cares? Gehenna is approaching and we must prepare ourselves for the coming battle. Ok. This book is much more than that. It outlines a much more involved code, rituals, and sociology. The Vaulderie and Vinculum bonds that result from it ... illustrate a genuine sense of vampiric camaraderie that may be imposed in the beginning, but that allows for disparate individuals to coalesce into efficient operatives dedicated to a mutual cause and immediate goal. In many ways the Sabbat is portrayed as a coalition of Cainite revolutionaries espousing understandably "human" traits, such as strength, loyalty, cooperation, and in some ways .... equity and order. They just approach things from a different perspective than the Camarilla. I agree with other reviewers who state that this book will provide more depth and dimension to the Sabbat, and if you roleplay and wish to start a Sword of Caine character - this is a resource you absolutely must acquire!
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If you're even remotely interested in the Sabbat then you should seriously consider getting this guide, as the core rulebook *barely* touches upon anything more other than Sabbat being "perceived as mindless savages and bloodthirsty fiends." This book is vital for players of Sabbat characters (and Sabbat-using Storytellers), even moreso than the Guide to the Camarilla is vital for players of Camarilla characters since much about the Camarilla is already covered in the core rulebook (but the Camarilla guide is still a nice book to have).
Just about everything about the Sabbat is discussed in depth, like initiation, ritae and war tactics. Factions in the Sabbat are covered as well as individual political positions. A specifically-Sabbat method of character creation is presented and Sabbat-appropriate Abilities and derangements are also present. Many Sabbat character templates are listed, which are all extremely helpful (and pretty interesting). There are advanced Discipline entries, usually for ranks 6-9, as well as types of Disciplines not featured in the core rulebook.
New shades of vampirism are presented here (though due to their awkwardness / susceptibility to abuse, not all are recommended as being playable): the twisted Blood Brothers, the ominous Harbingers of Skulls, the bizarre Kiasyd and the vengeful Salubri antitribu, as well as the gruff Panders, the Sabbat's own brand of Caitiff (who seem to have more status in their sect than the Camarilla Caitiff have in their own). Also, there are all the Camarilla clans' antitribu - excluding the Tremere antitribu (who do get a mention, however), for pretty permanent reasons.
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5.0 out of 5 stars A darn good read April 28 2002
I love the Sabbat now. I've always found an attraction to the Lasombra but never the Sabbat as a whole. This book changed my perception. The Sabbat isn't a group of mindless killers as the Camarilla makes them seem, they are Crusaders against the ancient ones who would destroy them.
The books intro "Smart Moneys on Vegas" is very nice and is probubly my favorite opening fiction. It captures the mood of the Sabbat and keeps you moving through the introducion area that explains the Sabbat structure and internal strife.
The book moves to the numerous Anti-Tribes of the Sabbat and even special bloodlines that previous reviewers mentioned. One that didn't fit in to me though was a group called the Kiasyd, they are like Faeries but Vampires also... I don't see where they fit into the Sabbat or any sect for that matter.
The discipline section was medicore. Nothing to new, or ground breaking. Especially considering the neutral disciplines like Auspex are in Guide to the Camarilla. The path section is rather interesting, especially since it drills in that many sabbat aren't on paths and stick to humanity, most people can't take pathes dangers.
The section detailing Sabbat tactics for taking cities is amazing and a story based around a siege would be amazing. The tactics are varied especially due to Sabbat disciplines and considering that they already are good at fighting makes me wonder how the Sabbat could ever lose.
This book was very good all in all but my one complaint is that it really doesn't say much about what a Sabbat city really does when it isn't crusading? They weed each other out? Well, this book is still worth the price. It's information is invaluable.
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Every now and then, the Sabbat gets mentioned in our game -- only mentioned because I really didn't have the tools to make them more than paper characters. Now I do. In fact, now I have more information on the philosophy, politics, and social lives of what might be considered "one-third" of the vampire population in terms of the major categories the undead can be placed into. I really liked the comparison between elder and younger Sabbat members because it shows some of the tensions in the Independent and Camarilla groups too. A lot of time is spent on how to make a Sabbat character more than a stereotyped killing machine and how to make a Sabbat story more than a murder spree. One huge disappointment was the repetition of information about the various clans in the Sabbat -- I think the two page summary might be better worked into the more general discussion of the clans so one doesn't have to flip back and forth so much. I also think some stories from the view of "allies, antagonists and others" would strengthen the good job done on describing Sabbat packs and Sabbat society in general.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Sabbat - Now you Know
This book goes in-depth about the Sabbat. Only vaguely covered in the main Vampire book, this gives great insight to what is normally perceived to be a group of thugs, but if that... Read more
Published on June 15 2004 by James W. White
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Published on Aug. 18 2001 by Paul Clarke
4.0 out of 5 stars Lots of Info.
This book has plenty of information that would normaly be excluded from the average ST's game. There is so much detail and history information that a ST could easily make a... Read more
Published on June 21 2001 by "mage_wiz"
4.0 out of 5 stars Things have changed for the Sabbat is a understatement
When I read this book I had no intention of running a Sabbat campaign. But as we speek I amin the middle of running one. Read more
Published on Jan. 5 2001 by Bruce Ramsay
4.0 out of 5 stars Great Book
The Sabbat get an update out of the cliched manaic with a chainsaw in one hand and torch in the other and finally become a full blown sect. Read more
Published on Nov. 27 2000 by Marcus A. Vitchell
5.0 out of 5 stars Another great book from White Wolf!
After reading the sabbat book,a lot of things were cleared up. A definite buy for storytellers. The book also provides info on alot of new bloodlines and stats for antitribu clan... Read more
Published on May 16 2000 by Justin Burke
5.0 out of 5 stars The Sword of Caine: Sharp, Not Dull...
It is a common and persistent misconception that Vampire characters and chronicles should be Camarilla by default. Read more
Published on April 3 2000 by Matthew Murphy
3.0 out of 5 stars Is it what you think you're buying?
A fine book from what I've read so far: up to the WW standard.
I'm a 2nd edition player and have been out of the loop for a while: What I thought I was getting was a complete... Read more
Published on Dec 8 1999 by JP
5.0 out of 5 stars New idea old rules
Well what can i say the vampire system has been set right about what clans are active in the sabbat. Read more
Published on Sept. 29 1999 by sabbatman@hotmail.com
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