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What Did Jesus Really Say-How Christianity Went Astray: [What to Say to a Born Again Christian Fundamentalist, But Never Had the Information] [Paperback]

Peter Cayce
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Jan. 6 2005
No dogma please. And hold the mustard. For something to be called Christianity, it should be based on the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Jesus never said he needed to die for our sins so we could be "saved." Only Paul and John make this claim. Christianity has therefore become a form of Paulism and Johnism that emphasize the Savior aspect of Jesus.

But Paul had never met or heard Jesus teach, and John tells a story that's so different from the other disciples that we must seriously question him as a source.

Did you also know there are two different biblical stories about how Judas dies?

And Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute until the Pope made her one in the sixth century.

Pope Urban II even made killing non-Christians acceptable in the eleventh century.

Other subjects include ancient Buddhist records about Jesus traveling to India and studying Buddhism. Jesus may even have studied and practiced Kabbalah.

Subsequently, What Did Jesus Really Say is an easy to read introduction that also reflects on God, Karma, Buddhism, Kabbalah, Reincarnation, Politics, and even Astrophysics.


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5.0 out of 5 stars Great book! I really enjoyed reading it. Feb. 9 2007
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I really enjoyed reading this book!

Now more than ever (the way politics is in the USA) this book is very important. Christianity can actually become a dangerous force when it gets involved in the political process. Just look at the Inquisition. In fact, the United States today is heading for an "inquisition-like" type of Christianity. We might not be burning people at the stake, but we are being politically pressured to keep brain-dead people alive (i.e., Terri Schiavo, etc.) and overturn abortion rights.

The Christian right wing of the Republican Party is even voting for people who they feel will best perpetuate these conservative beliefs by changing the laws that would force all Americans to accept their ideology.

This book is also a must-read for those who are tired of Christian Fundamentalists who quote the New Testament on issues of morality. In fact, Jesus' message is often different from the religion named after him. Modern Christianity is more about the Apostle Paul than it is about Jesus.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Great book! I really enjoyed reading it. Feb. 7 2007
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I really enjoyed reading this book!

Now more than ever (the way politics is in the USA) this book is very important. Christianity can actually become a dangerous force when it gets involved in the political process. Just look at the Inquisition. In fact, the United States today is heading for an "inquisition-like" type of Christianity. We might not be burning people at the stake, but we are being politically pressured to keep brain-dead people alive (i.e., Terri Schiavo, etc.) and overturn abortion rights.

The Christian right wing of the Republican Party is even voting for people who they feel will best perpetuate these conservative beliefs by changing the laws that would force all Americans to accept their ideology.

This book is also a must-read for those who are tired of Christian Fundamentalists who quote the New Testament on issues of morality. In fact, Jesus' message is often different from the religion named after him. Modern Christianity is more about the Apostle Paul than it is about Jesus.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Loved it. Definitely a must read. Oct. 8 2006
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Christians will undoubtedly dislike and even hate this book. Although the author is respectful of Jesus and tries not to insult Christians, there will be some of the Christian persuasion who will probably feel slighted and insulted by this book.

In other words, some Christians will simply not like this book since it diplomatically points out the flaws of their belief structure and may even shake the foundation of their faith a bit. Well, that is, until they put their faithful heads back into the proverbial Christian sand again. Hear no evil. See no evil. When in doubt, "...cast your uncertainties aside and have blind faith!" Alas, the eternal mantra of Christianity.

Nevertheless, this book has the potential of opening the eyes of the spiritually blind and the spiritually hard of seeing. It answers questions without being boring, overly scholarly, pompous or derogatory. The book basically tells the simple truth.

A terrific book and a must read if you're open to the fact that Christianity has gone off-course from the original message of Jesus. But if you are a devout Christian of any kind, you will probably want to skip this book, even if you are most in need of reading it.
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5.0 out of 5 stars This is a very good introduction to this subject. Aug. 22 2006
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This is a very good introduction to this subject. Whereas Jesus is treated with a good deal of respect, the author basically shows how Christianity is different from what Jesus Christ apparently taught.

The author also touches on various seemingly "unrelated" subjects, but then effectively integrates them into a well written presentation. The main focus of the book, however, is on some of the flaws of Fundamentalist Christianity and how the Apostle Paul and the Disciple John have misconstrued the message of Jesus. Subsequently, the author's primary argument appears to be that Christianity should be based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and not on the teachings of the church.

I must say that I agree wholeheartedly. Christianity should be about what Jesus Christ taught. Not what Paul, John, and other well-meaning Christians have taught over the last 20 centuries. It should be based on the teachings of Jesus, just as Buddhism (for example) should be based on the teachings of the Buddha.

I also found it interesting that there are some very completely different stories in the New Testament. For example, I always thought that Judas had committed suicide after betraying Jesus. Even Mel Gibson portrays Judas hanging himself in the "Passion of Christ." I was surprised to learn that there is another very different story in the New Testament where Judas does not commit suicide at all.

Therefore when Fundamentalist Christians claim that the Bible is flawless, that it is God's Holy Word (without error), then how can one accept this when the New Testament is quite clearly flawed.

In addition, I like the way that Science and even Astrophysics (!
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5.0 out of 5 stars I really loved this book! July 11 2006
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This is an extremely interesting and highly enjoyable book to read.

I also really love the way Mr. Cayce simplifies a very complicated subject. There's something to be said about focusing on Jesus' words first, since the various Christian churches around the world can't even agree on basic tenets of Christianity.

In fact, Christianity has been arguing with itself and other denominations of Christianity for over 2,000 years.

Perhaps it's time to simply get down to the basics and focus on Jesus' words first and foremost. After all, even the disciples of Jesus didn't always agree with each other. And Paul and John tell such a different story about Jesus that you really can't take them seriously. Mr. Cayce, therefore, focuses instead on Jesus' words in Matthew, Mark, and Luke.

I also like how the "Meaning of Life" is explained in the last chapter and Epilogue. Could he be right? Very interesting!

I therefore really recommend this book. This is a great introduction for anyone interested in this subject.
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5.0 out of 5 stars If you have questions or doubts, you've got to read this book!
If Born Again Christian Fundamentalists have tried to scare you into believing that Jesus died for your sins, then you've got to read this book! Read more
Published 22 months ago by Pamela Diaz
4.0 out of 5 stars Broad based and comprehensive.
This book is broad based and comprehensive. Covers a lot of information. Well written and interesting. I highly recommend it. Read more
Published on Feb. 18 2012 by Brian Coulter
4.0 out of 5 stars An interesting book.
I've had a few friends who became Born Again Christians. Unfortunately they've been trying to convert me as well. I've got nothing against Born Again Jesus people. Read more
Published on Aug. 23 2007 by Kevin Trudeau
5.0 out of 5 stars This Is Actually A Very Positive Book About Jesus
I must admit that I didn't initially want to read this book. I was talked into it by a relative, and I'm glad I was. It was actually a very positive book about Jesus. Read more
Published on Jan. 1 2007 by S. Meyer
5.0 out of 5 stars A revelation for a long time church goer!
Cayce is an excellent writer, and he has the talent to get rather involved, complex points across simply and forcefully. I have been attending Christian churches for over 60 years. Read more
Published on Nov. 2 2006 by Thomas Mcgeehan
5.0 out of 5 stars Very Interesting!
Two thumbs up! Nice writing style. Pleasant and easy to read.

I especially like Cayce'e chapter on "Dinner with the Christian Fundamentalists. Read more
Published on Sept. 28 2006 by Jason T. Baxter [J.T.]
5.0 out of 5 stars Lovely. Absolutely lovely!,
Elizabeth Garrison (Plymouth, UK / England)

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Published on Sept. 10 2006 by Elizabeth Garrison
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent!
This is a wonderful book!

I love the intermingling of religion, mysticism, politics, and science to form a well-written presentation about Jesus. Read more
Published on June 20 2006 by Karen Spinozza
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