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Laurel & Hardy: From the Forties Forward [Paperback]

Scott MacGillivray
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MacGillivray, a film writer and longtime fan of Laurel and Hardy, focuses on the famous duo's later celluloid contributions, painting them as Hollywood casualties. According to MacGillivray, Laurel and Hardy were unwitting victims of the studio era's demise and the desperate attempts by producers to gain artistic control, hedge bets, and cash in on past successes. Occupying the margins of A- and B-picture status, they became incidental, has-been characters in search of a suitable vehicle for their talents. A fair portion of this slim volume routinely recaps film plots, but reactions from contemporaneous exhibitors contrast well with comments from critics, pointing up the contradictions inherent in popular culture. Uneven but still recommended for film collections.?Jayne Plymale, Stamford, CT
Copyright 1998 Reed Business Information, Inc.

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A ground-breaking look at the duo's films during and after the war years!

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5.0 out of 5 stars The Definitive Work on Laurel & Hardy After 1940, Nov 3 2002
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Charles G. Vesce (Wanaque, NJ United States) - See all my reviews
Ce commentaire est de: Laurel & Hardy: From the Forties Forward (Paperback)
If you like Laurel & Hardy, you MUST get a copy of Scott MacGillivray's book
"Laurel & Hardy: From the Forties Forward." It is the definitive work on
Laurel & Hardy after 1940. Most L & H books never discuss their later
careers, but this book starts where the others leave off.

I disagree with the reviewer who thought this book was "contradictory" and
that the films were "garbage." I've always found it amusing that everyone
dismisses the team's '40s features as being terrible. Yet
when pressed, everybody will admit to having at least one favorite from the group if
not two, or perhaps three. Mr. MacGillivray tries to be fair in his
reporting, so his comments are balanced, not contradictory. And he's right,
Stan and Ollie's later films are well worth your time. I've watched several
of them recently and enjoyed them more than ever.

The publisher's claim on the back cover says this book demonstrates that the
later works of perhaps the greatest comedy team in history are worthy of
study and consideration. One reader seems to have taken this claim too
literally: does one really need to rely on a book to be convinced? Of course
not. As with the lesser Hitchcocks and sometimes-painful-to-watch
Keaton talkies, ALL of their works are worthy of study and consideration. The real
purpose of the book is to inform and entertain us, and this is precisely
what the author has done.

"From the Forties Forward" also has interesting material on movie

re-releases and Robert Youngson's silent-comedy features. They gave many of
us the chance to see L & H "in the theaters" for the first time (most of us
weren't born or were too young when the original films played in the '30s and
'40s). There is also quite a bit about Laurel & Hardy on TV and video. Especially enjoyable was the section on Laurel & Hardy home movies. It brings back
great memories of seeing Laurel & Hardy on my own movie screen.

The book is jam-packed with new information and fresh material from the
years when so little was written. Mr. MacGillivray has given us such a
wealth of new information, that in the future, historians and buffs will
routinely use the factual information in this book as if it were their own
(as the case with Wm. K. Everson..often quoted, rarely credited). There are also many
rare photos. My personal copy of "From the Forties Forward" is falling apart
from use, so if you're a serious Laurel & Hardy fan, be sure to order two copies!

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3.0 out of 5 stars CONTRADICTORY, Mar 21 2002
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Ce commentaire est de: Laurel & Hardy: From the Forties Forward (Paperback)
I expected Mr. Macgillivray to contradict Randy Skretvedt's "Laurel and Hardy: The Magic Behind the Movies". Skretvedt felt the post-Hal Roach movies were vastly inferior to L&H's earlier pieces -- in so many words I thought he thought the Fox/MGM movies were largely garbage. Instead, he mostly contradicted himself. Scott Macgillivray tries to convince the reader that these movies were not that bad. He does a more complete summary of the movies with behind the scenes material than Skretvedt (this is to be expected as the book was more focused on one particular aspect of L&H's career), but he failed to convince me that the Fox/MGM movies were better than Skretvedt described them. Macgillivray will describe certain movies as being better than critics claim, but then provide explanations as to why the movies were not good. He does credit L&H with more winning scenes than Skretvedt, but I felt Skretvedt provided a stronger argument than Macgillivray. By the way, regardless of what we think of the Fox/MGM movies, most of them did well at the box office.

The second part of the book was about how the L&H movies long survived the individuals themselves. Macgillivray summarizes how different vendors obtained old tapes and how they were able to revive the tapes and keep L&H (and others) alive on the screen for modern day viewers. The results were fascinating, but the process (and perhaps unavoidably the description) was dry.

This book would have been an easy four star and maybe even close to a five star book (still not as good as Skredvedt's though) had Macgillivray been better able to sell his argument that the L&H Fox/MGM movies were better than they have been credited for or if he had toned down his praise of them. The book has a lot of good information, but he failed to achieve the purpose of convincing readers that L&H's Fox/MGM movies were mostly good.

Garbage by any other name is still garbage.

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3.0 out of 5 stars Laurel & Hardy: From the Forties Forward, Oct 1 2001
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Brother Frank (Melissa, Tx. United States) - See all my reviews
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This book is OK. There is plently of good information regarding Laurel & Hardy's later work. However, the argument that their movies during this time are "surprisingly good" is not a solid argument. After Laurel and Hardy left Hal Roach, their films were mediocre. That can not be disputed. The big studios destroyed the Stan and Ollie characters, much the same as Buster Keaton's screen character and the post-Thalberg Marx Brothers characters were destroyed. MGM had a hand in all three travesties.
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