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Letters Between a Catholic and an Evangelical: From Debate to Dialogue on the Issues That Separate Us
 
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Letters Between a Catholic and an Evangelical: From Debate to Dialogue on the Issues That Separate Us [Paperback]

John R. Waiss , McCarthy James G. McCarthy
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What exactly do Catholics and evangelicals agree and disagree on? What better way to gain a clear understanding of Catholic or evangelical beliefs than to let each side speak for itself? Thats exactly what happens in Letters Between A Catholic And An Evangelical-a fascinating collection of correspondence and conversations between two friends who have spent hundreds of hours discussing their faiths. Catholic priest John Waiss and evangelical minister James McCarthys candid dialogue makes for a balanced presentation that clearly identifies six key areas of agreement and disagreement: *Is Gods Word found in Scripture alone, or Scripture plus Tradition? *Who are the teachers and rulers of the church? *How is a person initially saved? *What do the bread and wine represent in the Last Supper? *What does each side believe about Mary, angels, and the saints? *What does it take to make it to heaven? This unique resource brings much-needed clarity and respect to both sides of the ongoing dialogue between Catholics and evangelical Christians.

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Father John Waiss is a Roman Catholic priest ordained in 1987. A member of Opus Dei since 1977, he has served as chaplain at Opus Dei centers near Stanford University and the University of California, Berkeley. He presently serves at Tilden Study Center near UCLA. Father Waiss has an M.S. in mechanical engineering and completed seminary studies in theology and doctoral studies in philosophy. James G. McCarthy is the founder and director of Good News for Catholics, Inc. A former missionary to Ireland, Jim is producer/director of the popular video Catholicism: Crisis of Faith and author of The Gospel According to Rome, Conversations with Catholics, and What You Need to Know About Roman Catholicism.

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3.0 out of 5 stars A Draw, July 15 2004
This review is from: Letters Between a Catholic and an Evangelical: From Debate to Dialogue on the Issues That Separate Us (Paperback)
McCarthy admits up front, in his foreword, that both he and Waiss had one aim: to convert the other. That the book is published by an evangelical publishing house testifies to the fact that Waiss failed; that the book is not titled "Letters that Converted a Catholic Priest" testifies to the fact that McCarthy failed.

Who won the debate is more a question of readers' preconceptions than anything else. Catholics will be unconvinced by McCathy's arguments, and few Protestants will be moved by Waiss's somewhat bland presentation.

Of the two, McCarthy is much more aggressive, and in many ways, much more rational. But there is a mystical element in Catholicism that doesn't mix well with pure rationalism. Recall that after consecrating the host in Mass, priest speak of the "Great mystery of faith."

At the heart of the book is the question of authority: both accept the Bible as an authority, but evangelicals stop there, where as Catholics see Tradition and the Church as on equal footing as the Bible, comprising together the Word of God. Much of the book, then, revolves around Waiss trying to show how the Church's extra-Biblical notions (i.e., those not specifically detailed in the Bible, such as the papacy, Mary's Immaculate Conception, etc.) are, in some way, Biblically based while McCarthy chips away at Waiss's arguments. The tables turn from time to time, especially discussing "sola scriptura," but by and large, it's a game of "Prove it from the Bible."

As such, McCarthy and Waiss toss one phrase (or a derivative) at each other quite often: "No where in the Bible do we find X." McCarthy fills in the variable with Papal authority, Marian devotion, the importance of Tradition; Waiss replaces "X" with the notion of "sola scriptura," the Trinity, and a couple of other ideas. With the exception of "sola scriptura," Waiss's contention seems to be that McCarthy and evangelicals are essentially "guilty" (my term, not his) of the same thing they accuse Catholics of: incorporation of extra-Biblical doctrines. Waiss could have pushed McCarthy a bit harder on this point, I think, for he doesn't even mention a host of non-Biblical based notions that "sola scriptura" evangelicals accept: Sunday worship, non-observance of Jewish holidays (i.e., no where in the Bible does it explicitly say that followers of Jesus are to stop observing the Jewish festivals), Easter, and Christmas come to mind.

This shows the Protestant notion of wanting to have its theological cake and eat it, too. Protestantism accepts the early Church councils' decisions about the New Testament canon, the proper day of Christian assembly, the appropriateness of celebrating Jesus' birth and resurrection, but most denominations (especially evangelicals) are unwilling to accept the Catholic Church's continuing authority. This is one of the paradoxes of the Protestant movement, which necessarily implies that the Church started off correctly, but somewhere got tangled up in a mess of legalism and false belief. Sadly, questions like "At which point?" and "Why would God let such a thing happen despite his promise to the contrary?" aren't mention in the book. It leaves me feeling that Waiss pulled some of his punches.

On the other hand, McCarthy demolishes some Waiss's arguments in support of Catholic theology. His handling of whether Jesus had half-brothers (i.e., whether Mary remained a virgin her whole life and whether "brothers" in the New Testament should be translated "cousins," as the Church maintains) is well done, for example.

As I mentioned earlier, who won the debate depends on readers' preconceptions. As a non-Christian skeptic, I found the debate to be a draw. This is because "Letters" is a debate about the tenants of a religion based on a self-contradictory book, a notion neither McCarthy nor Waiss would take into account. For example, is one saved by faith alone or by faith and works? It depends on where you look in the Bible. Did Saul/Paul's traveling companions on the road to Damascus hear a voice or not? It depends on which chapter of Acts you read. Does the bread and wine become Jesus' actual body? It depends on how you read a couple of different NT passages. With such a flawed starting position, a draw is the best outcome either participant could hope for.

When such contradictions arise, the great literal/figurative differentiation arises. Indeed, much of the book also seems to be an argument as to whether or not to interpret this or that passage literally or figurative, with each side accusing the other of taking the passage out of context.

On the other hand, it is refreshing to see debate that doesn't often (though sometimes, to a slight degree) slip into personal insults. While many Protestants (and this almost always includes fundamentalists, and often includes evangelicals) think the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon and the Pope the Anti-Christ and many Catholics regard Protestants as heretics, McCarthy and ____ keep things civil the whole time.

One final criticism: the length precluded truly in-depth discussion, and many of McCarthy's and Waiss's comments go unanswered.

Overall, I would say it's an interesting read for the simple fact of seeing to opposing views clearly (though perhaps too succinctly) presented.

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1.0 out of 5 stars On a scale of 1 through 5...Its a -5, May 6 2004
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This review is from: Letters Between a Catholic and an Evangelical: From Debate to Dialogue on the Issues That Separate Us (Paperback)
Form what I read of the book I'd like Fr. Waiss's credentials checked. He should have and could have cited much more scripture in this obviously Anti-Roman Catholic text. Mary Lk 1:28 and 48, Eucharist Jn 6:53-56, 1 Corinth 11, Faith Alone? read James 2:17, Bible Alone? read Jn 20:30, Jn 21:25, 2 Thes 2:15, What is the Pillar and ground of truth? read 1 Tim 3:15, Authority in the Church? read Hebrews 13:17. Not only did Waiss drop the ball, he simply handed it to McCarthy-- Matt 7:6 (which was the same last name as the 50's Sen. McCarthy who accussed without evidence.) I hope the anti-Roman Catholic Crowd takes some time to balance their obviously biased reading lists and read some Catholic books by some Catholic authors anything by G.K. Chesterton, John Henry Newman, Thomas Merton etc.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Great Stuff, April 10 2004
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This review is from: Letters Between a Catholic and an Evangelical: From Debate to Dialogue on the Issues That Separate Us (Paperback)
I am a evangelical christian. I haven't been converted but I must say that this is a great book. Both discuss in a charitable fashion. I bought this book because I have catholic friends and I'm always wanting to say, "here's why you are wrong!" But after reading this I have more respect for catholic. I can't say I'll become a catholic but it is a great way to understand the differences, probably the best book to understand the differences. The book is layed out so well. First one writes a letter then the other. Then they come together for a conversation (4 - 6 pages) then back to the letters. Its great. A must buy for the curious and for those wishing to understand the other's beliefs.
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