With Infest, everybody (well, most of the people who hadn't heard their earlier stuff anyway)thought that they were just another rap-metal band that were just trying to imitate the sounds of like minded groups, such as Limp Bizkit, The Deftones, and Rage Aginst the Machine. It wasn't a bad album by any means, in fact a lot of the songs had quite an original sound to them. But still, many people labeled them as "rap-metal" and thought that they would throw in the towel a few months after the release of Infest. All I want to say to those people is "up yours". Lovehatetragedy is a surpring and solid album. They pretty much abandon their past "rapcore" style, for more melodic straightforward punk/hard rock tunes. They definately show this on songs such as "M-80" (my personal favorite), "Walking Thru Barbed Wire", "S.I.D.(singular indestructible droid)" and "Code of Energy". Jacoby Shaddix (who leagally changed his name from Coby Dick)shows off how he can sing a variety of melodies and still change the tempo at will. After listening to this album, you can tell that, even though he was great at kickin ryhmes, he was meant for this type of stuff. Even rap-metal fans should give this album a try, even though some of them might be turned away by the lack of rapped lyrics (except in "She Loves Me Not"). Definately pick this album up if you like any of their older stuff (Old Friends From Young Years and 5 Tracks Deep come to mind), even though it isn't quite as raw. My favorite are "M-80", "Life is a Bullet", "Born With Nothing, Die With Everything" and "Black Clouds". O Yeah, almost forgot, you also pick up their new album Dancing In the Ashes when it comes out, it might please some Infest fans.