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Missa Solemnis [Import]

Ludwig Van Beethoven Audio CD
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1. Missa Solemnis: Kyrie - Assai sostenuto (Mit Andacht)
2. Missa Solemnis: Gloria (Allegro vivace)
3. Missa Solemnis: Credo (Allegro ma non troppo)
4. Missa Solemnis: Sanctus - Adagio (Mit Andacht)
5. Missa Solemnis: Agnus Dei - Adagio

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John Eliot Gardiner's interpretation of the Missa Solemnis stands as one of the crowning accomplishments of his career and one of the most impressive achievements of the period-instrument movement. The concept is grand and powerful, lively though not unduly brisk. The execution is simply electrifying: Gardiner has the orchestra on the edge of their seats, the chorus going all-out, and sparks flying everywhere. Excellent singing from the soloists and a vivid recording complete the triumph, and it's all on a single disc. --Ted Libbey

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4.0 out of 5 stars Doesn't quite make it for true greatness Jun 30 2004
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I think that this recording will be fully satisfactory for those that are fans of the period performance movement, but apart from the fact that I am not a fan of the movement, the Missa Solemnis demands more than satisfactory. Beethoven considered it his greatest work, and I (along with many of his greatest interpreters) agree. However, I don't think you could tell listening to this recording alone. Gardiner seems to see the Missa Solemnis as an oportunity to show off with razzle-dazzle, fireworks-type playing, at least up until the Sanctus, and frankly, even though his tempi are very swift (as always), it gets dull after a while. Too much of a good (or in this case, well done) thing is not great, it is just overdone. He doesn't reach for the fundamental, spiritual truth of the piece, he just goes for surface effects. Compare this with Klemperer's recording. I very quickly realised listening to it that Beethoven is not just constructing a thrill-ride so that we get excited about the Catholic Missal, but that his Missa is A MUSICAL PORTRAIT OF GOD, in all his power, glory, and majesty.
From a technical standpoint, as you may have gathered by now, this recording is superb. Very well sung and played, the polyphonic lines are so clear that, if I had perfect pitch, I could write out the piece in full score just listening to this. As is to be expected, the sound quality is superb as well. I do have to give Gardiner credit: he makes a period-style performance sound like more than just an academic exercise, which is a feat very few have matched. On the other hand though, I don't think these advantages make this anything like a definitive recording of Beethoven's greatest work, even if such a thing existed. Are these advantages all that pronounced, or unique for that matter? Despite the fact that Gardiner uses much smaller forces than Klemperer, plays in a lighter manner, and has much better recording technology at his disposal, the improvement in clarity is marginal, and for me, the only reason one might prefer period recordings over non-period is that non-period techniques sometimes obscure the architecture of the piece. So ultimately, what reason is there for prefering this as the ultimate Missa Solemnis? For me there is none, but fans of Gardiner, the HIP movement, or showy music, might disagree with me.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Big complex chest pounding late Beethoven... Mar 21 2004
By ewomack
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This piece and this recording are simply astounding. It's big, heavy, sweaty, pining Beethoven with the added bonus of complexity. Not that this is a bad thing, but this piece is paticularly hard to get one's musical mind around, which probably explains why it's not as popular as some of his archetypal symphonies (5th, 6th, 9th). Unlike some of Beethoven's more overtly thematic work, this one needs to sink in slowly and settle in a comfortable spot in the psyche until it unleashes it's full spectrum of power, beauty, and richness.

Part of the issue is that the piece was written over a number of years (1819-1823); enough years for Beethoven to develop in substantial ways. Consequently, the earlier movements have a different character than the later ones. But wait there's more: Beethoven also originally conceived this project (at least, according to a few sources) as a more traditional religious piece - he apparentely studied church music history with a vengeance, and this study manifests itself throughout the Mass. The goals apparently changed through the years, since the Kyrie and the Gloria have a more - relatively - traditional, classical feel to them, and the later movements are more moody and romantic (contrast the Gloria to the Sanctus and the differences stick out like escargot in a burger joint).

Partly for the reasons above, and partly due to the length of each individual section (the Kyrie is the shortest at just under 9 minutes, and the Credo is the longest at just over 17 minutes) this piece seems best ingested and approached one section at a time, rather than as one big lump sum total. This way the distinctiveness of each part is emphasized, and the listener is not lost in the progression (not always is there a clear indication that a movement has ended, and often I find myself - while listening casually - wondering if I'm in the Gloria or the Sanctus, or the Agnus Dei - the Credo stands out the most due to the very demonstrative marching and pounding theme that runs through it, and the singing of "Credo Credo" is the most sing-along phrase of the entire work - I sometimes catch myself belting out a "Credo Credo" when I least expect or want it to happen).

Another FAQ about the Missa Solemnis (or "Solemn Mass" or "Mass in D") is it's utilty: did Beethoven write it for religious or secular reasons (or: is it more like Brahm's Requiem or more like Bach's Passions)? It's one of those fascinating, corpus callosum splitting questions that provides much stimulus without much resolution. It doesn't appear that Beethoven was a practicing Christian in the traditional 18th century sense (i.e., he didn't go to mass regularly), but he has been quoted as saying that he wanted this Mass to incite religious feelings in the audience. But "religious" is only a somewhat kind of loaded and relative term. The other big spear of contention is the Credo itself: does Beethoven run through the major Catholic creeds in record time out of respect or disrespect? There are salient arguments on both sides of all these issues, and since Beethoven doesn't have too much to say about it these days, we're left with semingly nullifying arguments.

Religious or not, it's an amazing work that takes work to appreciate. This work pays off in droves and droves and piles of droves. You'll be drowning in droves. The Kyrie's harmonizations (how many voices resolve to a single voice that finishes the phrase) are astounding; the beginning of the Sanctus has to be up there with some of the most beautiful and ethereal of Beethoven's sounds; the Agnus Dei is one of those great musical finishes that is even more appreciable once the entire is grasped. These are just a paltry few of the highlights of the Mass.

This CD is arguably one of Sir John Eliot Gardiner's (don't forget the Monteverdi Choir and the English Baroque soloists) greatest achievements. Any Beethoven fan will jump in and happily drown in the sonorous splendor that is this disc. Excuse me while I dive...

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5.0 out of 5 stars Agree with pepechenique!! Feb 8 2004
By A Customer
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I agree with pepechenique that Gardiner's Missa is rather martial. Gardiner's Missa is kind of a glitzy affair because Gramophone praised it to the skies, and gave it 2 awards - Choral Award & Record of the year Award. It certainly has its merits - orchestral playing and a chorus that is astonishing in its virtuosity. But you know what? Like pepechenique, I found it kind of martial - it is superbly played no doubt but it is lacking in its ability to move. The playing is rather bland. Just listen to Klemperer's recording, which is fantastically intense. Or Solti's first recording - which though it puts the soloists unduly in the spotlight, has a 'feeling' which is missing here. However, the biggest surprise for me was Solti's SECOND recording with the Berlin Philharmonic. That recording topped it off. It is the best I have heard - for me, it certainly outshines this Missa and Solti's first recording.

Solti's 2nd recording has the distinction that the balance between chorus, soloists and orchestra is superb. For once, you can actually hear the orchestra in many parts of the Gloria, Credo and Sanctus with the chorus, whereas in other recordings, the orchestra inevitably gets swamped by the chorus when the chorus comes in at full force. And the Berlin Philharmonic is at its virtuosistic best!! They play magnificently - and when I say they are magnificent, they are MAGNIFICENT!! I agree with Gramophone's assessment that the soloists (Varady, Vermillon, Cole and Pape) give the impression of listening to each other and knowing their 'ebb and flow' in the piece - when they are important and when they should recede. THIS is really rare. PLUS all 4 soloists sing very beautifully - none of them are trying to 'stand out' but take their place dutifully (as they should) in the fabric of the whole piece. One of Solti's great attributes as a conductor was his constant development as a musician. In his second recording, he surpasses his first recording in the understanding of the architecture of the piece. In his recording, some parts of the Missa drag somewhat and doesn't quite gel together. Here, his understanding is total. The parts flow logically from one to the next, there's no unduly slow tempi, and for the first time in my history of listening to the Missa Solemnis, I actually UNDERSTAND the architecture of the piece as a whole. I used to listen to sections without seeing the big picture, now I see the big picture of the Missa in Solti's 2nd.

Gardiner, in my view, has missed some of the insights in Solti's second recording. As another example, in the Et Vitam Venturi fugue, Solti's transition from the slow to the fast and back to the slow is fantastic. When he ends the fast section (which is as fast as Gardiner's - maybe a few seconds slower), you still feel the forward momentum of the music. In Gardiner's case, the transition from slow to fast is splendid (but any conductor can do that). But when he ends the fast section, I feel that the music stalls somewhat.

I shall keep searching for the perfect Missa Solemnis (which doesn't exist).

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5.0 out of 5 stars Et Vitam Venturi
Listen to the Et Vitam Venturi Fugue. You'll be so astonished that you'll never want to hear Et Vitem Venturi by another choir. The Monteverdi Choir is simply astonishing. Read more
Published on Jan 11 2004 by "james5anderson"
5.0 out of 5 stars One of Gardiner's finest recordings so far.
The Monteverdi choir is unbeatable. A revelation. Beautiful performances. A desert island disc!
Published on Oct 16 2003 by H. Stokar
5.0 out of 5 stars Gardiner's Best Recording
John Eliot Gardiner has really helped bring the period instrument movement to the mainstream through his spectacular abilities to conduct masterpieces on original instruments and... Read more
Published on Jan 10 2002 by A. Michaelson
5.0 out of 5 stars Gardiner becomes Beethoven
I find this version to be quite in accord to Beethoven's emphasis on PEACE. Sir Eliot Gardiner becomes so imbued of the appeal to peace implicit in this monumental composition that... Read more
Published on Nov 16 2001 by Juan Carlos Garelli
5.0 out of 5 stars Haevenly Sounds
If you are a Beethoven lover you can't be without this CD. Superb playing and singing, a must for all classical listeners. Buy it eyes closed.
Published on Sep 4 2001 by capezio
5.0 out of 5 stars Five stars for the Missa Solemnis and this recording !
This absolutely beautiful work and recording of it defies my powers of description. I couldn't help playing the Gloria and the Credo over and over, as well as the entire work,... Read more
Published on Dec 10 2000
4.0 out of 5 stars Good, but not as good as it gets.
The GRAMOPHONE went over the board to praise this recording giving it the Record of the Year Award. Well, we all know the English love each other... Read more
Published on Dec 23 1999 by J. Luis Juarez Echenique
5.0 out of 5 stars spirituality pure
Andrew Harvey, India-educated British poet and translator of Sufist writings, invites his students at Oxford to listen to this CD when reading out his poerty. Read more
Published on Dec 11 1999 by nicole calian
4.0 out of 5 stars Elliot at His Best
John Elliot Gardner and the Montervdi Choir have done a masterful work with Beethoven's Missa Solemnis. Read more
Published on Dec 9 1999 by "bigmikedc"
5.0 out of 5 stars Superb
One of the great recordings of our day. I have always had difficulty appreciating this work -- that is until this recording came along. Read more
Published on Nov 28 1999
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