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29 of 31 people found the following review helpful
Unnecessarily Long Sept. 12 2010
By bk - Published on
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Currently taking a controls course, using this book... It's fairly obvious that this is the 12th edition; so much material has been added over the years. About half of each chapter is redundant examples. I'd recommend Principles and Practices of Automatic Process Control by Smith (which I used the ChemE version of controls) over this book. I hate how authors and publishers add a little more in each edition to encourage readers to buy the new one. This 1000+ page book would be about 400-500 if the extremely unnecessary bits were deleted.
EDIT: Despite being the 12th edition, I've come across typos that make the already difficult material almost impossible to understand. If you are a professor teaching a controls class, please look for another book.
9 of 9 people found the following review helpful
Terrible.... March 7 2012
By CG - Published on
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I bought this book for an undergraduate controls class I am taking and must say it is a pretty bad book. Having had plenty of schooling under my belt (4 yrs bachelors and now finishing up graduate school) I am still amazed at why professors gravitate towards certain books. This book now in its 12 edition is difficult to follow, and the examples within the chapters don't provide enough detail or insight for the student to gain an in-depth understanding of the subject matter. Worse, the problems at the end of the chapters dont provide solutions (many books will have solutions to odd problems for example) that leaves the student unsure of whether he/she is doing the work right. Many of you will probably end up having to buy this book for class, if you do, or if you want a book to learn controls on your own, I would much more recommend a used copy of Norman S Nise Controls system engineering.
8 of 9 people found the following review helpful
An encyclopedia gone wrong Aug. 13 2011
By Jei - Published on
Format: Hardcover
This book was the recommended textbook in my "Introduction to Control Theory" class. Personally, i never liked textbooks that fill the pages with equation after equation without discussing what they mean. This book, however, is on the other end. It is very verbose in a way that bores the reader and i don't really think that the authors manage to "get the point across", so to speak. If one already knows the subject, then perhaps this book could be useful in some way but for an introductory text i prefer Ogata.
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
Definition of "too dense to be useful" Feb. 11 2013
By Berke E. Guzelsu - Published on
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I had to buy this book for the controls class I'm taking right now and I must say this is easily one of the worst textbooks I've ever used. The chapters are way too dense. You're literally asked to learn 130 pages worth of material in Chapters 1&2 combined. For an introductory chapter, that's a lot of to ask of anyone who is new to a subject. The book would benefit immensely from asking problems (with solutions) throughout each chapter so you can slowly digest the concepts in a systemic manner. The examples are pretty terrible in my opinion as they are not very straight forward and presented with tons of equations but little context. Also, very rarely do they mirror the end-of-chapter questions, so you can't even use them to see if you are doing the problems correctly. It's clear that this series needs a serious trimming to cut out a lot of text and just display things in a clear concise manner. Instead of exposes of text, just get to the meat of the chapters with straight-forward examples that ramp up in difficulty. Overall, my experience with the book is like taking a Dragon kick from Bruce Lee, a Haymaker from Chuck Liddell and getting electrocuted simultaneously.

Edit: 4/13/2013
We have been using this this textbook all semester and my original review still holds. The examples continually prove to be awful in ways that make you wonder if there was even an editor to this textbook. I doubt they ever really asked a student honestly to give them feedback because anyone who isn't a lobotomized eggplant or sycophant would tell the writers this book is garbage. The explanations are lacking to the nth degree and the author clearly thinks himself "a clever person" by asking problems that cover corner cases WITHOUT COVERING THEM IN THE TEXT. That would be okay if you were provided fully-explained solutions in the back of the book so you could struggle for a bit and then learn it, but you aren't so the author is just a straight-up jerk at worst and a terrible writer at best. Overall, this book is pure rubbish and I feel sympathy for the birds that lost their home due to the tree being cut down to print this absolute piece of fecal matter.
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more of the same July 20 2013
By J. Shanahan - Published on
Format: Hardcover
Dear Richard C. Dorf,

End the madness. How many editions must you write? The world does not need another edition of your control systems book. We all know you're trying to game the college text book system by barfing out a new book every other year and forcing students to eat your vomit. Seriously, stop it. Just stop. Are you in serious need of money? Are you struggling to buy food? I will send you a sandwich for god's sake.