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Movement [Import]

New Order Audio CD
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1. Dreams Never End
2. Truth
3. Senses
4. Chosen Time
5. ICB
6. The Him
7. Doubts Even Here
8. Denial

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This is New Order's debut in name only, with the ghost of Ian Curtis still hanging heavily over his grieving Joy Division bandmates. It would take them one more step, to the brilliant Power, Corruption and Lies, to really assert their own power. Movement, then, is the sound of guitarist Bernard Sumner, percussionist Stephen Morris, and innovative bassist Peter Hook building a bridge from JD's Sturm und Drang drone to New Order's considerably brighter dance pop. It's an interesting bridge to cross though, peppered with dark highlights like the almost poppy "Dreams Never End," the blip-blooping electro chaos of the Pere Ubu-influenced "ICB," and "The Him," with its rhythmic echoes of JD's "Atrocity Exhibition." --Michael Ruby

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5.0 out of 5 stars Ghosts Nov. 4 2003
Format:Audio CD
They might have goofed in front-loading their debut with the sprightly, catchy 'Dreams Never End'- -the rest of the album is pretty dour and a bit of a letdown after such an auspicious beginning. It seems they couldn't make up their collective mind as to direction: hence 'Dreams', which sounds like a hit single and, remarkably, like nothing in the Joy Division canon; the haunting 'Doubts Even Here', ostensibly the sequel to both 'Atmosphere' and 'In A Lonely Place'; and the sequencer-driven 'Chosen Time' which anticipates the follow-up POWER, CORRUPTION AND LIES and the direction the band would persue throughout the 80s. Not surprising, really, as much of the material was probably written as Joy Division while Ian Curtis was alive and had to be finished without him. ('Ceremony', the debut single, was performed live with Curtis on JD's STILL.) A hint of cynicism concerning the band's audience pervades the album as well, though- -the vocals are treated in more than a few spots so as to mimic Curtis, most notably on 'Dreams Never End' and 'Doubts Even Here' in which Ian's ghost seemingly performs. The band was definitely haunted by Curtis' absence: his presence permeates the album. There are some great moments, to be sure- -aside from 'Dreams Never End', 'ICB' lopes merrily along and manages to transcend its own weight with its whoopy synth calls and ascending progression. And 'Doubts Even Here' is darkly beautiful. It's also rather aptly titled- -IS that Curtis? It isn't, but I'm not really sure it's Bernard Sumner, either. Or Peter Hook, for that matter. That's the thing about ghosts. They're there but they're not.
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5.0 out of 5 stars New Order's black sheep Feb. 17 2004
By SRS
Format:Audio CD
Despite the often inferior lyrics and the regrettable Joy Division parody - Doubts Even Here, Movement contains some of the most brilliant music from the early 80s. Some songs are just stellar. Truth and Senses are flawless. I suppose this music is early electronica in places.
Curtis' vocals - the emotional depth he was able to bring to Closer - obviously couldn't be duplicated, although it sounds like the band is trying. Yet, there is a mechanical-computerized element in much of Movement that predates Blue Monday and which works quite well. Clearly, with the Bauhaus cover art and album title, New Order isn't just trying to recreate Joy Division. Even that exercise did yield good fruit, though. The song In a Lonely Place is great (the b-side for the band's first single).
Dreams Never End is similar to the original FAC 33 release of Ceremony. Both are excellent. (I prefer the original Ceremony to the version on Substance.)
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4.0 out of 5 stars Dark and psychedelic Oct. 19 2003
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
This is the most depressing album I've ever heard. It's like looking at the world through blue-colored glasses. Yet it's still cool sounding. The music is amazing! The guitars are off the wall with melody and rythm, the drums are furious and precise and the claustrophobic atmosphere created by the production all amount to a band going into self-induced trance where they channel dark forces of nature to keep from imploding.
The lyrics just seem like gibberish to me, they just evoke feelings and scenes but the interpretation is mostly in your head.
Unique.
But be warned, this music is FATAL in its power of melancholy. Their friend and former band leader had just committed suicide so understandably they were in a mood of complete and utter despair when they made this album.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Dark and Artsy June 29 2004
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This first album released by New Order in 1981 is a wonderful gloomy taste of sturm und drang, echoing out of poignantly scattered debris of Ian Curtis' suicide. This gloomy, artsy, beautifully dark album seems like it comes from the hauntingly hope-devoid streets of Manchester which wrought this foundational New Wave band. Excellent album: dark bored vocals, beautifully woven guitars, haunting synths.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Dreams Roll On April 11 2005
By H. L. Thomas - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
I was a huge fan of Joy Division and Public Image Limited in that time, and still love them. That said. I am a New Order fan. I was of the few in San Francisco that saw them at the I-Beam on the first sans Ian tour. They were touching. That said.

Strip them of their history and take this album as it is for the time it was released and even today, and still it holds as a very good set of songs about stretching across a blackened musical landscape of minor chords and sketchy guitar with guilt ridden vocals and the occasional dance-trippy melodies. Movement is a musical statement. It shows the now and the where to go of the later masterpiece, Power, Corruption And Lies. Movement is a gloomy record, but that's ok, the dark wave really did rejoice in it's melancholy and of course in it's layered sounds. Put this album next to PIL Metal BOX and Echo and the Bunneymens Heaven Up Here and you have a couple of dreamy hours into the netherlands of what was to become of Manchester and American Brit rock idolators. Great stuff, and a wonderful clarion call to what was to become the makings of the greatest dance single of all time from the darkness of Dreams Never End: Blue Monday. After the regrettabel suicide of Ian Curtis, who I hope has found some new incarntion better fitted to his damaged soul, New Order lifted spirits rathers than dampened them.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Doubts Even Here Dec 29 1999
By "steve_kelly" - Published on Amazon.com
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I watched New Order perform the content of this watershed album at Plato's ballroom in Liverpool - it was their first gig in the U.K. as New Order and they had just returned from New York where they had unveiled their metamorphic identity.
The place was packed.....and dotted among the audience were the luminaries of the North West scene, from Pete Wylie, manic, high, through to Tony wilson, dry and smirking....svengali-like, knowing what he had.
And suddenly there they were, legends already, Dreams Never End assaulting the thick smoky clubby atmoshere, fast, energetic - the link to the past, evoking memories of Transmission and Love Will Tear Us Apart....and Truth, the quirky drum machine....I forget the gig order now but they did the whole of this short album plus In A Lonely Place and Ceremony.
For me this album remains a memory of something very special.... the crysalis stage of something that blossomed into a glorious freedom of expression. In some ways this is a tough listen - a bridge to the swirling, delirious Power Corruption and Lies from the sombre Closer. It does get waylaid in places, but the high points - The him, and the breathtaking Doubts Even Here are reminders of how these people reached out and made us all wonder about things which in our more cynical moods we would dismiss as pretentious nonsense....like how modern music can approach the soul, and be art.
10 of 12 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Ghosts Nov. 4 2003
By Mark Champion - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
They might have goofed in front-loading their debut with the sprightly, catchy 'Dreams Never End'- -the rest of the album is pretty dour after such an auspicious beginning. It seems they couldn't make up their collective mind as to direction. Hence 'Dreams', which sounds like a hit single and, remarkably, like nothing in the Joy Division canon; the haunting 'Doubts Even Here', ostensibly the sequel to both 'Atmosphere' and 'In A Lonely Place'; and the sequencer-driven 'Chosen Time' which anticipates the follow-up POWER, CORRUPTION AND LIES and the direction the band would pursue throughout the 80s. Not surprising, really, as much of the material was probably written as Joy Division while Ian Curtis was alive and had to be finished without him. ('Ceremony', the debut single, was performed live with Curtis on JD's STILL.) A hint of cynicism concerning the band's audience pervades the album as well, though - - the vocals are treated in more than a few spots so as to mimic Curtis, most notably on 'Dreams Never End' and 'Doubts Even Here' in which Ian's ghost seemingly performs (it's actually Peter Hook). The band was definitely haunted by Curtis: his absence permeates the album. There are some great moments, to be sure - - aside from 'Dreams Never End', 'ICB' lopes merrily along and manages to transcend its own weight with its whoopy synth calls and ascending progression. And 'Doubts Even Here' is darkly beautiful. It's also rather aptly titled- -IS that Curtis? It isn't, but it's easy to imagine it isn't Hook, either. That's the thing about ghosts. They're there but they're not.
5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Transitional album Sept. 10 2009
By H. Jin - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
[3.5 stars]

'Movement' is a very ironic title, because if ever a band sounded stuck in the one spot and desperately uncertain where to go next, it's New Order on their debut album. To be fair, the death of Ian Curtis greatly affected the band, creatively as well as personally. Without him, New Order seem caught in two minds; unwilling to just rehash Joy Division's sound, but seemingly unable to boldly push their music forward.

A few new ideas are evident, though. There are some tentative steps toward pop ('Dreams Never End'), electronica ('Truth') and upbeat dance ('Chosen Time'). But for the most part, the songs fall through the cracks a bit, lacking both the gut-punch of Joy Division and the dance hooks of later New Order. They're dark and introspective pieces that all seem to reference Curtis' death in some way, with lyrics about "strange days", "the last reaction", "no reason ever was given", "so far away", and "it frightens me" popping up in every song. Bernard Sumner's singing is very subdued and somber, with none of the boyish ethusiasm of his later work. Peter Hook's bass remains at the low end of the reigster, and apart from 'Chosen Time', Gillian Gilbert's keyboards are relentlessly gloomy and gothic. The real star of 'Movement' for mine is Stephen Morris, who turns in some outstanding tribal-influenced drum beats on several songs.

The big problem with 'Movement', however, is the production. Despite their arty dark image, Joy Division could still rock really hard when they wanted to. If the songs on 'Movement' had the visceral energy of 'Unknown Pleasures' or 'Closer', they could have packed a real emotional punch. In contrast, 'Movement's sound is flat and colourless, and producer Martin Hannett needs to take the blame for this. Hannett crushes the life out of the album with a suffocating production that robs the songs of any impact, keeping us emotionally distant and removed. And his trademark scratches, squeaks, and sound effects are carelessly applied, winding up distracting instead of interesting. 'ICB' in particular is ruined by those annoying bleeps.

It's worth seeking out the 'Peel Sessions' CD or the 'Taras Shevchenko' 1981 concert to hear rawer, more immediate versions of these songs, all of which sound much better when liberated from Hannett's clasutrophobic shell.

The dark and often depressing nature of the songs, the lack of sonic variety, and the dense production make 'Movement' a very challenging listen. But the combination of a hesitant and uncertain New Order and a heavy-handed Hannett means the album doesn't quite reward the effort that you need to put in. There are a few strong songs and some pointers to the band's future, but ultimately 'Movement' doesn't rank up there with the best work of Joy Division or New Order. However, for all its flaws, 'Movement' is an important transitional album between Joy Division and mid-period New Order, making it essential for dedicated fans of both bands.
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Highly Underrated Aug. 6 2003
By "amatlock123" - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
YES... highly. Many critics and other ignorants find this album to be quite disgusting. Why? It sounds too much like Joy Division. Well, I've got news for you, it IS Joy Division. This album was like a lone bridge. On one side, Joy Division. All the way on the other, New Order. The thing is, Bernard, Peter, and Stephen have just begun to cross. You can't go from Closer to Power, Corruption, and Lies with just one stride. This album came out almost right after Closer. Come on, give us a flipping break. It's Joy Division without the legendary Ian Curtis. That's it.
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