One thing that always amazes me about this cd is the amount of anger in different people's utterances when speaking about it. As for me, "No Substance" is the first BR full album I've been to hear and as such it instantly became one of my favorite LPs of all times. Furthermore, equally quick it got me into the world of Bad Religion. Then, only when I got hold on cds like "Suffer", "Against the Grain" or "Recipe for Hate", did I realize the reason for this record being so disliked and overly underrated. It's much different in sound and slightly different in meaning (social issues seem to be stressed more than before). I know that the sound difference was caused by Mr.Brett's leaving the band but in no way can it be claimed primitive or not fitting the lyrics! It is just not the same as on earlier releases but not worse! I'll always hold a sentiment for songs like "The biggest killer in american history", "Hear it", "Shades of truth" or "In so many ways" as they mean much for me and I'm sure they will mean much for anyone who's into this kind of music and hears them just once. Generally, "No Substance" is a differentiated album. It may seem that songs tend to be moderately slow but just listen to "Hear it" or "The same person" which are quite energetic. The lyrics probably don't need any recommendation but... well, they're as usual very meaningful! Apart from that, in "Raise your voice" Greg is assisted by Campino from Die Toten Hosen, which also produced quite an interesting outcome. Finally, to end with... If you, yes >>YOU<<, have been refraining from buying this LP because of those "no mercy for punk traitors" reviews you read, it's time to change it. Go, buy it, and see for yourself, this is the only way, as you all know, like with anything else in life. Only this time you sure won't end up dissapointed.