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Pleasure And The Pain

Saga Audio CD
2.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (6 customer reviews)
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1. Heaven Can Wait
2. How Do You Feel?
3. Welcome To The Zoo
4. Where's My Money?
5. You're Not Alone '97'
6. Taxman
7. You Were Made For Me
8. Gonna Give It To Ya
9. Fantastically Wrong
10. Pleasure And The Pain

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Album Description

2002 reissue of the Canadian progressive rock act's 1997 album includes one bonus track, 'Welcome To The Zoo' (Live), plus unseen photos, liner notes, original artwork & updated booklet. Steamhammer.

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2.2 out of 5 stars
2.2 out of 5 stars
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Format:Audio CD
Don't be fooled by the slick cover art, this record is by far the worst record SAGA has done. IT is very hard to listen to. An awful cover of "Taxman" gimme a break! A terrible re-recorded version of "You're not Alone" WHY!? Hideous German techno on "Where's my Money." Sloppy drumming on the title song-where'd Steve Negus go?! I would've left too! The best song here is "Gonna Give it to Ya" which is how the whole record should sound based on their direction up to this point. The rest sounds contrived and tired, however, "Heaven can Wait" and "Welcome to the Zoo" are ok. Overall, I can't believe this is the same band that relased gems such as "Behaviour," "World's Apart" and "Silent Knight" I love SAGA and feel bad writing this review, but unfortunately, this is well deserved. Skip this and get their earlier remasters which are ESSENTIAL!!
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While I still respect this band after all these years. I have to say that this is not one of their strongest releases. There's more pain here than pleasure. Each song is straight forward. What you hear is what you get. Meaning, you don't get anything that's typical Saga. None of the dueling guitar/keyboard speed melodies here. If you're looking for that, you'll have to look towards earlier releases (Worlds Apart, Heads or Tales, Generation 13) or later releases (House of Cards).

This is a pretty straight forward rock CD. There's not much in the way of Saga progressivism on this CD. Although, on Gonna Give It To Ya, they try some Yes-ish type progressive music. As another poster said, it sounded too much like other bands and not enough like Saga. Considering the quality of the previous release, Generation 13, I'm sure Saga wanted to take a break and do something less intense and structured. This appears to be the result of that break. Later albums past this one, Saga gets back to their roots much more, yet with a more updated and raw sound.

All in all, this album is worth listening to if you are an avid Saga buff. But, I recommend that if you are new to Saga, you should check out Worlds Apart, Heads or Tales, House of Cards, Marathon or even Generation 13 (as depressing a story as it is) before this release to hear the best of Saga musically and get a feel for their real style. Overall, I gave this three stars simply because they diverted way too much away from their roots. They didn't even throw any old Saga on even one of the songs just to give us a bone.

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2.0 out of 5 stars Recognize "No Stranger ?" April 18 2003
Format:Audio CD
I find it very strange that none of the reviewers mention the track that continues the old track "no stranger ( chapter eight)" of the WORLDS APART album. The titel-song "pleasure and pain" has the same melody as the beginning and end of the old song. Like the chapters, its a continuance...
Although I must agree that the best song on the album are "gonna give it to ya", but I also like "you`re not alone 97" and the titel-song.
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