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Puccini;Giacomo 1983 Turandot


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29 of 31 people found the following review helpful
For the Fans May 11 2008
By Robert Petersen - Published on Amazon.com
Format: DVD
This Harold Prince production of Turandot, recorded in 1983 from the Vienna State Opera, is a welcome addition to the DVD catalogue. With little already available on DVD featuring the three protagonists (Marton, Ricciarelli and Carreras), fans will not be disappointed. This performance marked Eva Marton's debut as Turandot and she is secure vocally, soaring over the orchestra and chorus when required, making it an easy sing, compared with other sopranos essaying the role. I prefer her MET Opera performance from 1987 featuring Placido Domingo as she had developed a greater understanding of the part. Jose Carreras and Katia Ricciarelli hold their own as Calaf and Liu respectively, with Carreras overshadowing Domingo vocally, even though the role stretches him a bit. Lorin Maazel expands the opening chords severely, but the VSO Orchestra and Chorus shine under his baton. The sound could be improved in a few places, but this recording is a welcome addition to the DVD catalogue.
16 of 19 people found the following review helpful
A valuable Turandot! May 19 2008
By scifisci - Published on Amazon.com
Format: DVD
This Turandot contrasts wonderfully with the other top Turandot on the market: the 1987 Zeffirelli production at the MET. It is so different in almost every way--musically, the production, singers etc. However, I would have to say that the MET production is probably a better choice for one's very first Turandot, though I would not want to be without this one. Compared to Zeffirelli's production, Prince's staging is seemingly minimalist, and the drama comes through in a much more uncluttered way. Maazel offers an excitingly detailed performance, offering nuance and grandeur. Levine's conducting is adequate--he basically holds it together and keeps it moving, but that's about it. I prefer Marton in this production, if only because her performance is steadier and more brilliant. However in my opinion, domingo wins over carreras hands down, despite the cracked high C. Carreras simply cannot muster the power for the role, though I suppose that weakness is not as evident on DVD. Interestingly, even carreras eschews the optional high C. Ricciarelli certainly cannot compete with leona mitchell, whose liu is more expressively and accurately sung, and better acted. Ricciarelli's decline is already evident at this point in her career. Overall I would say if you had to pick only one or if you are buying it for the first time on DVD, go for the MET production. It's more traditional, a bit more cohesive, and certainly a sight worth seeing. This dvd, is a very very close second choice, with wonderful conducting by Maazel, an interesting production and Eva Marton in fresher voice.
12 of 14 people found the following review helpful
The Best Ping, Pang and Pong staging - ever! June 13 2008
By Jim Berg - Published on Amazon.com
Format: DVD Verified Purchase
I have been waiting for this particular production to go to DVD for 25 years! I have the production on VHS, but the video quality is so improved now that it is digital.

Carerras (pre-cancer)and Marton and the rest of the cast are wonderful; the sets are astonishingly fabulous; BUT the singing and, in particular, the staging of Ping, Pang and Pong in Act II is beyond belief in its originality and sheer cleverness.

I can not recommend this production enough. To those that have other productions...sorry, this is a keeper for lovers of Turandot.

If you don't buy it, you may lose your head. Rather lose your head and order this DVD. You won't be sorry.
13 of 18 people found the following review helpful
A bit "historical" annotation of the opera April 10 2009
By Bill - Published on Amazon.com
Format: DVD Verified Purchase
This is the third version of Turandot I bought, and I would like to make a comparison with the other Turandot's (the 1987 MET Turandot and the Forbidden City version).

In terms of vocal performances, this one is perhaps the best in the three. Eva Marton was in her early 40's and the timber of her voice at the peak. She overshadowed Carreras in this DVD. In the MET version, with she passing her peak, Domingo and she are at par. The forbidden city vocal performance is undoubtedly the worst, unfortunately.

In terms of the artistic description of Peking (or Beijing) and the Chinese court, this DVD is the worst, and the Forbidden City one is the best, due to the excellent setting by Zhang Yimou. Zhang was also the director of the 2008 Olympic Games opening ceremony.

Puccini's story has its origin in 1001 Nights (or Arabian Nights). But he made so many changes to the original story, the Opera should be considered as his own. I will do a bit of "historical" study of his opera, in the fashion of some one annotating the imaginary Shelock Holmes.

The story should be happening between 1368 to 1644, the time period of the Chinese Ming dynasty. Why? because only the Yuan (Mongol empire), Ming and Qing(Machurian) dynasties have Peking as their capitals, and two of these dyansties are established by babarians themselves. In the Forbidden City version, Zhang got it right. This DVD, on the other hand, mixed Machurian costumes with Ming-Song dresses and Italian masks (Yes, with a reason). The stage is set at a completely wrong time. Only a Ming princess can swear to revenge a Chinese princess in ancient times.

Who could be Princess Lou Lin? Well,since Turandot's ancestress lived "thousands of years ago", we can only guess. In China's 5000 years history, it was only totally defeated twice. But Puccini was writing the opera in China's Qing dynasty, and the Mongol empire stayed in China for only 90 years and was immediately before Ming. I can only guess that Puccini mixed up China's history a bit. China's Han dynasty was "thousands years" before Ming, and the royal family name is Liu or Lou. But the dynasty, like Rome of its time, was the invader instead of the invaded. However, here is the catch. After Han declined, the next weaker Jin Dynasty's capital was once raid by the Huns, and the emperess fell into the hand of the Hun king. Could she be the prototyped Lou Lin? Well, if so, then the historical Lou Lin was wed to the Hung King but she did not die. Little is known what happened to her later, for the Hun's kingdom was vanquished in a decade.

Where is Honan, Chiang, and Kiu?

Honan: the modern Chinese Hunan. In the U.S., there are many Hunan restaurants. The beautiful province where Chairman Mao was born. The province is famous for its bamboos, lakes and rivers. Puccini got it right.

Chiang: not sure. Could be Chiang Hsu, or modern Jiangsu. This is one of the places considered as secular "paradises". It is culturally advanced, and very beautiful.

It could be "Chiang Nan", or modern Jiang su and Zhe Jiang provinces put together. In ancient history, Chiang Nan, the vast land near modern Shanghai, is the dreamed place to live for scholars. Nice weather, beautiful lakes, trees and women...

Kiu: most difficult to guess. From the sound, it could be modern Suzhou, a city like Venice in Jiangsu province, with many canals and bridges.

The emperor is claimed to be the heir of Hien-Wang. But who is Hien-Wang?

My guess is that Puccini, in making the story exotically Chinese, made a mistake.

One of the many titles of Confucius (the "great Kong-tze" in Turandot, the term appeared when the Persian prince was executed) is "All Accomplishing, Holiest, Most Cultivated, Grandest King". In Chinese, "Grandest King" has the sound similar to "Hien (Grandest) Wang (King)".

But the descendents of Confucius have never become emperors. Puccini has put some Persian belief that the Prophet's descendants should be rulers into Chinese thougts. The Chinese never believed in that.

Finally, what is "Pu-Ting-Pao"?

I know it is supposed to be the Chinese words for executioner, but I never made out what are the three words Puccini is referring to.

The Chinese words for excecutioner are Kuai-Zhi-Shou (Exceution-'s-Personnel), or Dao-Fu-Shou (Knief-Chopper-Personnel), and we have used them for thousands of years. "Pu-Ting-Pao" sounds like neither of them. Am I missing something here?

Overall, this DVD is a great asset for a fan like me, although it is undoubtedly the most "foreign" and "non-Chinese" Turandot in a Chinese's eyes. To have a view of the real stage where the play should have happened, I would encourage you to buy the Forbidden City version. Keep in mind, however, that Eva Marton has few peers in playing this character.

Eva is a Hungarian, how funny it is. Her forefathers are the Hun. If she really wants to avenge for herself, she is definitely on the wrong side in the opera. The Huns and Han Chinese were in the same coalition about 6000 years ago. Overtime, the Huns moved to the North, or the central Asian steppes and had 2000 years of warfare with China. During the Han dynasty, the Hun Empire was conquered, and only five tribes in the empire fled to Europe like the Trojans. (The last great battle between Han and Hun happened about 80 years before the Huns appeared in East Europe). The rest was bought into the Chinese empire as a conquered people. After hundreds of years, the Han dynasty collapsed. The Huns rebelled against the Jin dynasty. At this time, the Hun king has taken on the Han royal family name (Liu or Lou) and even named their kindgom "Han", and King Liu Cong of the Huns got Jin's "Lou Lin" as wife. Given Puccini had some many Liu (Lou) in his opera, I believe he must have a bit of Han dynasty related history on his mind.
5 of 7 people found the following review helpful
All this opulence and Jose Carreras too! June 21 2010
By Cy Reese - Published on Amazon.com
Format: DVD Verified Purchase
I must confess that I am a low-brow and easily impressed by spectacular sets, opulent costumes, massive choruses, and, oh yes, beautiful singing. But hey, isn't this what attracted most of us to the world of opera in the first place? This production features Jose Carreras in the role of Prince Calaf, and although he is not as imposing a tenor as the other two members of the famous "Three Tenors", he is by far the most believable in the role of a handsome prince. And with all due respect to Pavarotti and Domningo, the sweetness of his voice - albeit before his cancer-related operation - is the most convincing and captivating in a role like this.


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