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Real World Adobe(R) GoLive(R) 5 [Paperback]

Jeff Carlson , Glenn Fleishman
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Oct. 31 2000 Real World
The definitive guide to Adobe GoLive 5 for Macintosh and Windows

Cross-platform approach to real-world Web design issues
Under-the-hood reference guide to getting the most out of GoLive 5
Hardcore tips and techniques by established Web design experts. GoLive 5 is Adobes premier cross-platform, Web development tool, offering superb HTML control, powerful site management, and support for Cascading Style Sheets, DHTML, and JavaScript. Both coders and designers use GoLives site creation and management tools to develop content for the Web. Adobe GoLive 5 now offers integration with XML, Adobe PDF, and Microsoft Active Server Pages, making it an industrial-strength giant in the Web design world. Real World Adobe GoLive 5 is the definitive guide for Web designers eager to master the ins and outs of GoLives many tools and features. The book targets all levels of users, starting with beginners who want to learn the basics of GoLives page creation, editing, and site management. It also targets intermediate and advanced users who know the software fairly well but want to learn the more complex features of GoLive, including scripting, animation, and style sheets. Useful as a tutorial or reference, Real World Adobe GoLive 5 is an ideal book for anyone wanting to increase productivity with this powerful Web design powerhouse. Previous Edition ISBN- 0-201-35474-8.

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Real World Adobe GoLive 5 is a big book on how to use Adobe's Web site authoring package in the real world to meet real design needs. This is not a take-you-by-the-hands class on GoLive, although it does cover application basics in the first section. Rather, it gives you solutions to real problems, and the authors expect you to have some familiarity with GoLive before you start.

The first of four main sections covers the basics: the interface, setting up GoLive preferences, and how the program works. Section two is all about "Pages"--the visual page editor, the text editor, and everything you can do with both. "Sites," section three, covers GoLive's excellent site-management tools, and section four discusses advanced topics like JavaScript, DHTML, cascading style sheets, and more.

The book is more like an extensive reference source than a tutorial. Virtually every feature is explained and can be looked up in the index, but you won't find a concise chapter on how to build an awesome site from A to B. This is the kind of book that you use as a desk reference, looking up topics as needed. Often, the examples cited are explained and illustrated more clearly than in Adobe's documentation.

One drawback is the lack of a CD-ROM. Examples, projects, source code, code snippets, animation--even a demo version of GoLive itself--would more than justify a CD-ROM. On the other hand, there are plenty of screen shots and sidebars.

GoLive 5 has matured into a powerful tool and has become a valuable member of the Adobe product family. Real World Adobe GoLive 5 is an important asset and reference book for the GoLive user. --Mike Caputo

From School Library Journal

Both of these books cover the latest version of the popular web page creation tool but in different formats. Classroom is a very structured guide for those who want a thorough tutorial. Readers can pace themselves and supplement lessons with project files on the accompanying CD-ROM. Real World, on the other hand, shows intermediate to advanced users how to translate design ideas into "practical expressions of page structure and HTML code." Though not comprehensive, it goes into greater depth than Classroom on the how's and why's of GoLive's features. For the price and broader applicability, buy Real World.
Copyright 2001 Reed Business Information, Inc.

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By DJ
Format:Paperback
I've been using GoLive since version 2.0 when it was called CyberStudio. Though I haven't become super-savvy with the program, I've known a enough to get by and make many high-impact websites. When I visit a new website with a feature I like, I try to figure out how they do it. That's why I bought this book.
I wanted to learn more about CSS (cascading style sheets), but this book DID NOT teach me how to make them. It explained what they were, where they came from, what the different types were, how they get used, what they can do, ways to use them, etc, etc., but it did not include simple step-by-step directions for creating them. It EXPLAINED how to make them in a series of short paragraphs, but that isn't much use at all.
They should have had a mini tutorial for it such as: Step 1. Create a new page Step 2. Type some text Step 3. Open the CSS Inspector Step 4. Highlight some of the text you wrote Step 5. Select options X,Y, and Z in the CSS Inspector Step 6. blah, blah, blah
That would have made this book so much better. Perhaps some people can learn by means of explanation without diagrams or specific instruction, but I'm not one of them. I prefer step-by-step help.
Imagine if you wanted to rebuild the engine on your car, and your only instructions were this: "The trick to rebuilding your engine is to remove it from your vehicle. Once removed from your vehicle you can put it on the floor or on a bench to take it apart. Once you've taken it apart, put it back together with all new parts and then put it back in your car."
Would you attempt to rebuild yor car if the instructions were phrased like that? Probably not, which is why I won't recommend this book to anybody except experts wanting to further their already savvy GoLive skills. Don't get me wrong, the book is crammed full of info and tips on a mountain of topics, but unless you know how to use all or most of GoLive's features, it won't serve you much help.
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3.0 out of 5 stars golive real sometimes you get lost March 25 2001
Format:Paperback
It is good book but not for the novice web builder. Authors do a good job of highlighting the command structures, provide tips and tell how to use the many features of the program. However in some places, commands are refered to but there is no visual of the icon nor does it tell specifically where on the toolbar it is. This happens when trying also to figure how to design and set up sites and more. It is complicated program but more intuitive then dreamweaver and the authors point out the powerful features Sometimes you can do things with more then 1 set of commands and the authors talk about this. Pros and cons of using tables versus grids and how using certain functions will lock out certain users using versions of certain browsers. They need to provide a card or listing to the commands and a picture of each. It would have saved me a lot of time. This is a reference for GL5 and not a good manual for building a site with GL. If they did that I'd rate it 5 or at least a 4.
Also the authors have listserve board where gl5 users can post their questions, about the book and using gl5. They answer you which is good. This book and GL5 are not for the most novice web builders.
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This book is awesome!
I highly recommend Real World Adobe GoLive 5 to anyone serious about building web sites with Adobe GoLive. Whereas the Adobe User Guide just scratches the surface on most subjects, this book digs deep and delivers nuggets of pure gold. Finding detailed explanations of all the advanced features that makes GoLive the premier web editing tool are easily referenced (and cross-referenced.) Topics are covered in depth with step-by-step, "how to" instructions rather than dry, technical data only of interest to programers.
This book is definitely the main reference tool for the GoLive 5 power user. Users of the previous incarnations of GoLive, (Cyberstudio and GoLive 4,) will find the chapter covering the new features especially useful by quickly and easily bringing them up to date with the new version. New users of GoLive can learn how to apply the powerful, site-wide features of the application by following the clear, concise explanations provided by the book, thereby rapidly advancing them to a higher level of web site design and construction. Since the authors of the book, Glenn Fleishman and Jeff Carlson, are not affiliated with Adobe their candid, reliable comments about the strengths and weakness of the application are invaluable.
The authors are well aware of the problems encountered by daily users of GoLive because they moderate an email forum focusing on the subject of GoLive. RWGL5 takes full advantage of this communication between users who have had problems and others who have found solutions to these problems. The amalgamation of this vast store of advanced techniques and real world (pun intended) solutions gives the book a depth that no other book on the subject could possibly hope to match.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Finally a book for GoLive that's very good Nov. 9 2000
Format:Paperback
Being a GoLive consultant, I am always answering the question: "Are there any good books on GoLive?" And for the longest time (actually years!), I had to shrug my shoulders and say, "Well, no. Not really." But since RWAGL4 came out in late 1999, my answer has changed. Just two days ago I said, "Yes. Yes there is a good book. Actually, it's very good."
And RWGL5 *is* very good.
GoLive 5.0, I believe, has a *deceptively* intuitive interface. But when you start trying to do something, it's easy to get lost in a sea of palettes and windows. RWGL5 clears up the interface kudzu within the first chapter. Actually, as the book notes, one of the co-authors is sympathetic to new users because he struggled when he first started using CyberStudio -- GoLive's ancestor. (So did I.)
If you're an intermediate or advanced user, you'll like how this book is organized. It's easy to find just what you're looking for. There's a brief overview section noting the major topics; a VERY detailed table of contents, and a (finally!) useful cross-referenced index. [If you've ever tried to find anything in a GoLive (or CyberStudio) manual, you'll love this.]
Every thing is covered in great detail, but the writing style keeps you interested and engaged. The authors obviously enjoyed writing this. They handle more advanced topics (Animation, JavaScript, Cascading Style Sheets) using apt metaphors, countless annotated screen shots, and real world examples to help you get things done quickly -- and well. And if you get stuck, they have a useful web site and an active discussion list. (They actually answer your questions. :)
But for me, some of the best nuggets are the scores of tips, side bars, and errata.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Not Well Written
Real World GoLive is not well written or edited. The text is laborious to read.
Published on Dec 21 2001
3.0 out of 5 stars Very good book required basic knowledge of golive
If you are new and want to make a website this book is not for you. I t gives you the details and explanations of the commands and features, but will not teach you that where you... Read more
Published on May 1 2001 by Mahmood ul Rashid
1.0 out of 5 stars Not a book for novices
I had developed a web site using HTML 3.2 and a text editor and had no problem. But after buying GoLive5 and this book I was ready to chuck it all and go back to my text editor. Read more
Published on March 21 2001
2.0 out of 5 stars RealWorld GoLive 5 is REAL technical and leaves you spinning
The problem with Real World GoLive 5 (RWGL5) is that it is too technical (emphasis on the too). The first two chapters alone are dedicated to the myriad of inspectors found inside... Read more
Published on March 1 2001 by K. C. Wilkening
1.0 out of 5 stars A convoluted pile of mush
... This book is 930 pages of woven technical mush, with no structure
or guide on how to use goLive5. Read more
Published on Jan. 9 2001 by Bob Valicenti
5.0 out of 5 stars Absolutely necessary!
I am not a programmer or graphic designer, and fell into writing a web-site through the backdoor. I have been using GoLive for about a year, and thought I was doing pretty well... Read more
Published on Dec 15 2000 by music lover
5.0 out of 5 stars Probably the BEST GoLive 5 Book !!
Everything about this book is GREAT: * presents a very thorough coverage of the GoLive 5 interface * HIGHLIGHTS new features of GoLive 5 * illustrations are used wisely and... Read more
Published on Nov. 24 2000 by Tan Kwan Seng
5.0 out of 5 stars My definitive guide to GoLive
I learned about 10 new and immensely helpful things in my first night reviewing only a few chapters of this book. I think I have just skimmed the surface. Read more
Published on Nov. 17 2000 by Bill Barrett
5.0 out of 5 stars Another outstanding effort................
Jeff Carlson and Glenn Fleishman took their great book, Real World GoLive 4 and built on the foundation to produce this outstanding book on web site development using Adobe... Read more
Published on Nov. 13 2000 by James E. Bennett
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