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Sometimes a Great Notion [Blu-ray]

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Paul Newman, an American original, would seem to be the perfect choice to direct a film adaptation of the second novel by another American original--Ken Kesey. But Kesey's novel, written under the influence of both LSD and growing fame, was a mishmash, and Newman's film can't rescue it. It also seems strange to see the ultraliberal Newman starring as a strike-busting logger who honors a contract on principle, rather than observe union concerns, bringing all sorts of misery down on his family. Henry Fonda is interesting as Newman's father, but the film never finds its footing. One killer sequence, however: Richard Jaeckel, as Newman's brother, trapped under a log in a river, slowly drowning despite Newman's best efforts to save him. --Marshall Fine

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5.0 out of 5 stars Sometimes a Great Notion; Great Cinema Jun 5 2000
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This movie is one of the most memorable films I have had the pleasure of viewing. One is left with the impression of having lived and seen live what the movie portrays, which is, I think, one of the measures that is rarely achieved, of good cinema. Don't believe the PC criticisms of this film; the story is humane in its orientation, and can only leave the most icy bureaucrat or ideologist untouched. The acting and scenery are breathtaking, but in a natural, not overly wrought way. The film has content and form, is lucid, moving, visually striking, and thought provoking. The fact that this film is not available in DVD is evidence of the commercial weakness of the DVD medium. One wonders, if DVD cannot accomodate films such as this, what other cinematic pleasures DVD might erase, should it achieve the predominance that CD's have in music.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Great Movie Mar 7 2004
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Saw this movie 20 years ago. I can still remember it.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Sometimes a Cinematic Notion April 11 2002
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OK, in fairness; I came to this film on the strength of my long, enduring affection for the work of Ken Kesey. Sometimes a Great Notion, the novel, is as dense and intense a read as one can find out there by any (and I mean ANY -- Faulkner, Hemingway, the works) American author. I've read this superb novel many times, and savored every word with every reading.

...then I saw the film.

Again, in fairness; I had doubts that ANY film under 2 hours would begin to do justice to the novel. I was right. I had suspicions that perhaps Paul Newman and Henry Fonda weren't quite, well, BIG AND TOUGH ENOUGH to do due justice to the Henry and Hank Stamper father/son team. I was almost right -- physically, they weren't the looming figures that roared across Kesey's pages. But Newman and Fonda ain't bad either, not by a long shot. Their abilities almost obscure the fact that they don't fully seem like lifelong lumberjacks from the wild coast of Oregon in the middle 20th century. They seem like superb Hollywood actors who are acting like lumberjacks. But that's OK, too. Fonda and Newman break even in my book, in terms of how they portray the fictional characters. I can't fault actors for scenes that aren't there, and my biggest problem with the film was a lack of depth -- the novel has several parallel, ongoing story lines that all weave together with magic and drama. By nature, cinema is a more linear story-telling device in that regard. Kesey's magnificent command of language, and voice, and perspective, and verb tenses helps to define this sprawling masterpiece -- that's a tough sell on the big (or little) screen.

I wish the cutting room had eaten a little less footage. The romance between Lee and Viv is, essentially, missing in action. And with it, the dramatic narrative that powers much of the core of the novel.

On the positive side, Richard Jaekel was excellent as Joby -- to the extent that he was on-screen. I found myself looking for his Christian aphorisms and life's-only-gettin'-better outlook, and finding less than I'd hoped for. Sure, he seems jolly enough half the time -- but I found myself wondering if that was because I KNEW he was supposed to be happy and full of Biblical jibberish. Again, the novel vs. the cinema -- and again, cinema fails where 600+ pages of copy succeed. The drowning scene, in fairness, is unforgettable. Of course, it was that way in Kesey's novel, too.

I'm glad to know Ken worked with Paul, as the film evolved. That Ken found the final product more successful than One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest-The Movie is a mixed blessing. I agreed with Ken about Cuckoo's Nest and Jack Nicholson (although I love Jack's work, too). I wish Ken were alive today, and perhaps he could shed some light on what he felt worked best in this film.

The Union sub-plot was touched on, but not fully explored. Same with the 'suicide'/death of Willard the theater owner (we never even learn he has a laundromat or a wife or any of the rich details that make him unforgettable in the book). Same with the love triangle. Same with the Stamper family history. The film was good, unquestionably, but not nearly as profound nor as deep as the novel.

With that said; go out and read the novel, and THEN sit down and watch the film. My vote goes for a RESTORED DVD RELEASE with whatever worthy footage was sacrificed for the Faux God of Running Time! This is an admittedly complex and far-reaching tale, and one that's hard put to do justice to itself in 112 minutes, give or take.

As is often the case, a great movie doesn't do justice to a great novel. In this case, it was almost impossible to succeed along those lines (Hey, does anybody PREFER the cinematic Moby Dick to the Melville novel? Case closed!).

On balance, Paul Newman and Henry Fonda and Lee Remick and Richard Jaekel in a Ken Kesey story...!? Does it GET better than that? Only Ken Kesey could have authored a novel that surpassed this film, talent and all. And he did! Check them both out -- book and film.

You'll be glad you did.

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2.0 out of 5 stars Trapped Beneath
I only want to tell you of one scene in this film. It's too bad that one sequence's strength can't be carried throughout the rest of the picture. Read more
Published on Nov 14 2001 by Adam Hunnicutt
4.0 out of 5 stars A fine, workable adaptation
Firstly, I cannot stress enough that one read the novel. It is one of the finest American novels ever written. Read more
Published on Jun 7 2001 by J. Remington
5.0 out of 5 stars SIMPLY A GREAT NOTION
Simple. Complete. This movie and this family are both of those. Paul Newman's chain saw taken to a desk is a simple and complete statement. Read more
Published on Mar 28 2001 by Don Gullett
5.0 out of 5 stars it is no mish-mash
Paul Newman's film captures the essence of life, and does not clutter it up with the filligree. All characters are achingly true to life. A womanizer? With whom? Read more
Published on Jan 12 2001 by Don Gullett
4.0 out of 5 stars Its all about personal relationships
Paul Newman at his best creates on screen relationships that are taught, uncompromising, potent, mesmerizing. Read more
Published on Dec 21 2000 by "theparableofthebeast"
3.0 out of 5 stars True to life story
This is one to see. Plus it was filmed in Toledo Oregon, where I am from. Its a great movie about a family living around the logging industry.
Published on Dec 7 2000 by M. Berliner
5.0 out of 5 stars Sometimes a great movie...
What better way to see this movie than when I first saw it in '71. I was a junior in Forestry College, watching it in the frat house. Read more
Published on Sep 3 2000 by Chuck
5.0 out of 5 stars Review
EXCELLENT film! Accurate depiction of a logging family in Oregon. Dialogue is superb, plot is well developed, excellent characterization, and superior performances from a... Read more
Published on Aug 10 2000
4.0 out of 5 stars A Notion:This Is One Great Film!
Paul Newman gives one of his best performaces in this well acted and realistic film about modern day loggers in Oregon. Read more
Published on July 25 2000 by Gus Mauro
5.0 out of 5 stars The Individual...
This movie is a wonderful example of the individual against the system (Every system). Fonda, Newman, Sarasan, Remick and Voit show the human spirit streched against not only one... Read more
Published on April 11 1999
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