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  • Audio CD (March 17 2008)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Universal Music Group
  • ASIN: B000003D01
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #54,336 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Stabat Mater Dolorosa (Six Verses)
2. Stabat Mater: I. Stala Matka bolejaca
3. II. I Ktoz Widzac Tak Cierpiaca
4. III. O Matko, Zrodlo Wszechmilosci
5. IV. Spraw Niech Placze Z Toba Razem
6. V. Niechaj Pod Nim Razem Stoje
7. VI. Chrystus Niech Mi Bedzie Grodem
8. I. Stabat Mater Dolorosa
9. II. Cujus Animam Gementem
10. III. O Quam Tristis
11. IV. Quae Moerebat
12. V. Quis Est Homo
13. VI. Vidit Suum
14. VII. Eja Mater
15. VIII. Fac Ut Ardeat
16. IX. Sancta Mater
17. X. Fac Ut Portem
18. XI. Inflammatus Et Accensus
19. XII. Quando Corpus

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The two Stabat Maters on this disk (the opening track is six verses of a Gregorian chant of the same text) were both composed in remembrance of the dead (in Poulenc's case, a personal friend; in Szymanowski's, the daughter of the man who commissioned it; it is interesting to note that neither composer wrote a Requiem).
The two works, however, are vastly different: Poulenc's work belies its title--it is almost a series of twelve choral dances, some fast and almost joyous, some slow and somber. The finale is impressive, if bizarre: the soprano soloist sings as if she were about to storm Heaven, and the final "Amen" is unusual as well.
Szymanowski's "Stabat Mater" is, IMO, a much stronger work, ranking with those of Rossini and Dvorak as among the very best settings of this text. In six movements, it is sung here in Polish (Poulenc's is in Latin), which makes the sound simultaneously more exotic and more intensely personal. It moves through a wider arc of emotions, from simple counterpoint in the opening movement to a paean for chorus, baritone, full orchestra, and organ in the penultimate movement.
But what makes this disc so special for me is the final movement of the Szymanowski. Shaw takes it a much slower pace--6 min, versus the usual 5 min--and the result is simply amazing: an almost heartbreaking yearning for heavenly peace that sends chills down my spine when I hear it.
The Atlanta Symphony Chorus is outstanding as usual, and the soloists are uniformly excellent, especially soprano Christine Goerke.
My only reservation about this disc is that the version I bought, four or five years ago, did not print the accented Polish characters in the libretto. I can only hope that has since been corrected. That aside, I highly recommend this CD.
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By A Customer on June 26 2000
Robert Shaw does a superb job in the performance of these two different versions of one of the most powerful religious texts, the Stabat Mater. Both composers do an exceptional fine job in their portrayal of the Mary weeping over her son Jesus' execution on the cross. The only similarity between these two compositions are the text, otherwise they are very different in their musical language and drammatic effect. The Szymanowski calls on tan extension of traditional romantic harmonies with a mixture of colorful harmonies drawn from the rich pallette of Debussy, and Scriabin. The rich choral writing is only intensified by a brilliant use of the orchestra. From the very beginning Szymanowski draws you into his mournful world and he takes you on an emotional journey that will pass before you quicker than you will realize leaving you with the desire to hear it again. The Poulenc setting contains no where near the same amounts of passion as Szymanowski's setting. Poulenc's simplistic harmonic language is beautiful but lacking in the same intesity as Szymanowski. The choral writing of Poulenc is at times awkward and sometimes distracts the listener's from his enchanting harmonies. The Robert Shaw Choral does a wonderful job in performaing these two works, and the soloists all have gorgeous voices that portray so powerfully the meaning of the texts. The Stabat Mater of Szymanowski is one of his best work but remains relatively unknown. The power of this work is equal to any choral work that I can imagine and it should be placed on the shelf next to Schubert, Mozart, Brahms, and Verdi. The Poulenc is nice, but is not nearly as high quality as the Szymanowwski.
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14 of 14 people found the following review helpful
Inspired performances Sept. 23 2001
By Amazon Customer - Published on Amazon.com
The two Stabat Maters on this disk (the opening track is six verses of a Gregorian chant of the same text) were both composed in remembrance of the dead (in Poulenc's case, a personal friend; in Szymanowski's, the daughter of the man who commissioned it; it is interesting to note that neither composer wrote a Requiem).
The two works, however, are vastly different: Poulenc's work belies its title--it is almost a series of twelve choral dances, some fast and almost joyous, some slow and somber. The finale is impressive, if bizarre: the soprano soloist sings as if she were about to storm Heaven, and the final "Amen" is unusual as well.
Szymanowski's "Stabat Mater" is, IMO, a much stronger work, ranking with those of Rossini and Dvorak as among the very best settings of this text. In six movements, it is sung here in Polish (Poulenc's is in Latin), which makes the sound simultaneously more exotic and more intensely personal. It moves through a wider arc of emotions, from simple counterpoint in the opening movement to a paean for chorus, baritone, full orchestra, and organ in the penultimate movement.
But what makes this disc so special for me is the final movement of the Szymanowski. Shaw takes it a much slower pace--6 min, versus the usual 5 min--and the result is simply amazing: an almost heartbreaking yearning for heavenly peace that sends chills down my spine when I hear it.
The Atlanta Symphony Chorus is outstanding as usual, and the soloists are uniformly excellent, especially soprano Christine Goerke.
My only reservation about this disc is that the version I bought, four or five years ago, did not print the accented Polish characters in the libretto. I can only hope that has since been corrected. That aside, I highly recommend this CD.
11 of 15 people found the following review helpful
Two vastly different works... June 26 2000
By A Customer - Published on Amazon.com
Robert Shaw does a superb job in the performance of these two different versions of one of the most powerful religious texts, the Stabat Mater. Both composers do an exceptional fine job in their portrayal of the Mary weeping over her son Jesus' execution on the cross. The only similarity between these two compositions are the text, otherwise they are very different in their musical language and drammatic effect. The Szymanowski calls on tan extension of traditional romantic harmonies with a mixture of colorful harmonies drawn from the rich pallette of Debussy, and Scriabin. The rich choral writing is only intensified by a brilliant use of the orchestra. From the very beginning Szymanowski draws you into his mournful world and he takes you on an emotional journey that will pass before you quicker than you will realize leaving you with the desire to hear it again. The Poulenc setting contains no where near the same amounts of passion as Szymanowski's setting. Poulenc's simplistic harmonic language is beautiful but lacking in the same intesity as Szymanowski. The choral writing of Poulenc is at times awkward and sometimes distracts the listener's from his enchanting harmonies. The Robert Shaw Choral does a wonderful job in performaing these two works, and the soloists all have gorgeous voices that portray so powerfully the meaning of the texts. The Stabat Mater of Szymanowski is one of his best work but remains relatively unknown. The power of this work is equal to any choral work that I can imagine and it should be placed on the shelf next to Schubert, Mozart, Brahms, and Verdi. The Poulenc is nice, but is not nearly as high quality as the Szymanowwski.
3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
A few comments on Shaw's Szymanowski Sept. 5 2008
By Mark Abel - Published on Amazon.com
I won't address Robert Shaw's version of the Poulenc Stabat Mater. It is a piece that has never done a thing for me, and when compared to the Szymanowski is rather pitiful and self-indulgent.

Shaw in general did a fine job with Szymanowski's beautiful and powerful setting, probably his most emotional and profound work and the most universally appealing of his later "Polish" compositions. Shaw made a canny choice of soloists -- soprano Christine Goerke is appreciated for her dead-on pitch (several of the Polish recordings of this work do not measure up in this respect), and mezzo Marietta Simpson (who shone in some late '80s performances in Los Angeles under Simon Rattle) and baritone Victor Ledbetter show ample appreciation of and passion for the piece.

Shaw's conducting of the Atlanta Symphony is a tad restrained for my taste but reveals a serious study of the score and several original ideas on interpreting individual sections. The recording quality is a wee bit murky but far better than just about any other version available.

The conductor is also to be commended for pointing out in the liner notes that Szymanowski's work predated by several years Stravinsky's "Symphony of Psalms," the piece many people think of first along the lines of "Religious/Eastern European/Early 20th Century." Stravinsky's piece is fine, to be sure, but I rate Szymanowski's a bit higher and it's quite possible that Stravinsky was influenced by it.

But I was motivated to write this to offer a refutation of one of the earlier reviewer's contentions that Shaw is to be hailed for his tempo decisions in the Stabat Mater's final movement, which I consider the most moving in Szymanowski's entire output.

In mid-movement, the composer brings the mezzo to the fore in a gripping section dominated by an insistent tympani beat and some stark and gorgeous solo woodwind writing. Shaw inexplicably chose to slow this key section down SO MUCH that its innate rhythm is completely lost -- and along with it the urgency of the mezzo and the shape of the woodwind lines. I'm surprised Simpson was even able to navigate her way through Shaw's bizarre concept, which stretches the vocal line very far from the composer's intention. Now stuck in this down-tempo "groove," the transcendentally beautiful sections that follow never quite achieve the final, gentle catharsis that Szymanowski wrote into the music.

I just don't understand what Shaw was trying to do here. His choice seriously mars an otherwise exemplary recording.
Symanowski & Poulenc Stabat Mater - Atlanta / Shaw Aug. 28 2013
By Bob Allison - Published on Amazon.com
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Mr. Shaw, the Atlanta Symphony and Chorus are splendid in their performances of these works by two contemporary composers which are sung in the original written languages. Mr Shaw has consistent recognition of these elements as intrinsic to the performance of these composers' writing. As always, the masterful marriage of the orchestral, choral and soloist by Mr. Shaw is legendary for his many, many recordings and live performances of compositions by diverse composers.
These performances are no exception and Telarc has captured the recorded essence of musical excitement.
Very good Robert Shaw recording of Szymanowski and Poulenc Sept. 12 2012
By jt52 - Published on Amazon.com
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Unlike the other reviewers, I find the Poulenc Stabat Mater (1950) found here to be the more interesting and attractive work presented based on what I heard here. In any case, this is a successful effort by Robert Shaw and the Atlanta Symphony & Chorus, and benefits from excellent signing by soprano Christine Goerke, who has collaborated extensively with Shaw.

The program starts off with a Gregorian Chant Stabat Mater which nicely showcases just what an excellent choral conductor Shaw is - the ensemble just sounds richer and more beautiful than most other choral recordings. Shaw moves on to the 25-minute long Stabat Mater (1926) from Karol Szymanowski, a work with a stellar opening movement (Stala Marka) and a very memorable and poignant closing Chrystus. Three of the work's movements foreground interlaced woodwind solos with either Goerke and/or mezzo Marietta Simpson taking the vocal part. As conducted by Shaw, the inner movements meander and aren't as striking as the Stala Marka and Chrystus but I'll underline that the Chrystus is so wonderful that it's worth getting the disc for that single track alone. However, I believe that the version with Polish soprano Elzbieta Szmytka conducted by Simon Rattle (EMI) is a comprehensively superior interpretation. Despite the beauty Goerke and Shaw bring to the Chrystus - and it is very beautiful - the inner movements lack the coherence and musicality of Rattle's version.

I have several recordings of Francis Poulenc's 30-minute long Stabat Mater. Poulenc was an exceptionally complex personality, who experiencing striking success across several musical categories. He wrote what I think is the pre-eminent neoclassical work from the era (the Double Piano Concerto - and yes I am very familiar with Igor Stravinsky's music), was a gifted song writer, wrote witty and light music at other times (I recommend Symeon Bychkov's excellent recording of "Les biches" as an example) and in the 1930s experienced a strong renewed interest in Catholicism, which led to his great opera "Dialogues of the Carmelites" as well as the Stabat Mater found here. As I said, a very complex and multifaceted personality.

I have recordings of the Stabat Mater by Seiji Ozawa/Kathleen Battle (DG) and Richard Hickox/Catherine Dubosc (Virgin). The Shaw and Ozawa versions are clearly better than Hickox. While I have slight preference for Shaw's slower and more sensitive take, the more dynamic and faster Ozawa is a very good effort and I can easily see different listeners preferring one or the other. Goerke again does excellent work in the two solos in the Poulenc.

Recorded sound: I seem to be less enthusiastic about Telarc engineering than other listeners - the timbres always strike me as washed out - but this is certainly a good recording from a purely sonic point of view.

All in all, a very good, consistently well-performed disc featuring touching and beautiful music. I advise you to seek out the Simon Rattle version of the Szymanowski, but that doesn't detract from this disc's beauty.


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