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Sym [Box set]

Gustav Mahler Audio CD
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Disc: 1
1. I. Kraftig Entschieden - Neville Creed
Disc: 2
1. II. Tempo Di Menuetto. Sehr Massig - Neville Creed
2. III. Comodo. Scherzando. Ohne Hast - Neville Creed
3. IV. Sehr Langsam. Misterioso. Durchaus - Neville Creed
4. V. Lustig Im Tempo Und Keck Im Ausdruck - Neville Creed
5. VI. Langsam. Ruhevoll. Empfunden - Neville Creed
Disc: 3
1. Benjamin Zander Discusses Mahler's Third Symphony #1 - Benjamin Zander
2. Benjamin Zander Discusses Mahler's Third Symphony, #2 - Benjamin Zander
3. Benjamin Zander Discusses Mahler's Third Symphony, #3 - Benjamin Zander
4. Benjamin Zander Discusses Mahler's Third Symphony, #4 - Benjamin Zander
5. Benjamin Zander Discusses Mahler's Third Symphony, #5 - Benjamin Zander
6. Benjamin Zander Discusses Mahler's Third Symphony, #6 - Benjamin Zander
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4.0 out of 5 stars Zander's 3rd - a performance worthy of Mahler. July 1 2004
Here is a great bargain for you. Three Cd's for the price of one, including a lecture over 1  hour long by the conductor, who is not just a great interpreter but a fine Mahler scholar as well. The talk is fascinating and it alone is worth the price of admission .It will guarantee to enhance your listening experience considerably and make you a convert, if you haven't been already.
Perhaps the most self-indulgent of Mahler's symphonies, it "encompasses the whole world" to quote Mahler. It is perhaps
the longest symphony of all and includes everything ,funeral marches , birdcalls, brass fanfares, Austrian military
marches, country dances, angelic choirs etc. The overall effect could be a mish-mash in the hands of any lesser composer
than Mahler, but he manages to bring it off very well and a good performance could be absolutely awe-inspiring.
Zander, with tremendous control over the giant forces this symphony requires, leads an insightful,
powerful, sometimes even shattering and certainly well detailed performance. It is a fascinating symphonic journey from the initial fanfare by six horns in unison to the final apotheosis. He builds up the great Mahlerian climaxes and resolves them very well.He maintains the tension throughout and his pacing is very good so the final effect leaves one breathless. The Philharmonia is in excellent form, in fact their fine instrumentalists (specially the winds) deserve a special mention.
I tend to agree however with another reviewer that Zander, being so in love with the work, that he tends to halt the
progress at times, to smell the roses, so to speak. Haitink with the Berlin Philharmonic, I think, moves at a better clip and this is important for performing such a long work.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Benjamin Zander's Mahler 3 June 14 2004
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This being my first experience with Benjamin Zander, I didn't know what to expect. I had also never heard a Mahler 3 before, so I went into this recording with absolutely no experience with the conductor or the music. However, the opening horn fanfare quickly quelled any other thoughts, and I was held by the throat for the next half-hour of the first disc. This truly is an inspired performance; Zander's close following of the score markings and Mahler's original intent go a long way toward a great musical experience. No other recording that I have listened to has come close to the grandeur and sweep of emotions that Zander's performance possessed. Compliments, also, to the Philharmonia Orchestra, whose brilliant playing clearly establishes them as a great Mahler orchestra. Also of interest are Zander's other Mahler recordings; interestingly, a recording exists with Zander conducting the New England Conservatory Youth Orchestra on Mahler's 5th, which rivals just about any professionally produced recording in terms of intensity and quality of playing. The recording can be downloaded from Zander's website, [...]
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3.0 out of 5 stars Mahler #3- Zander April 10 2004
I now have 3 versions of Mahler's 3rd, the one in Bernstein's "big box" Mahler cycle of 14 CDs, Boulez', and Zander's.
I lean toward the opinion that the Zander version is the best of the three. I am not sure I am either musically articulate enough nor perhaps have heard them enough to point out specific details that would lead me to that view, however.
One thing I think is an incredible feature of Zander's recordings of Mahler's symphonies is the tutorial CD that he includes.
And one specific detail that I am in a quandry about: To me one of the highlights of the 3rd is the posthorn solo in the 3rd movement. On the Bernstein recording it is just slightly on the soft side. On this one, and my recollection is on the Boulez as well, portions of it are so soft that you can barely hear them. I'm not sure whether that is a flaw in the way they recorded the piece, or if the interpretation is that this is a horn in the far distant hills or such and therefore it is just barely audible. But when you can hardly hear it, you can't appreciate its beauty. So I consider the way it comes out on the Bernstein recording to be the preferable way- no matter whether it is less authentic.
So I would consider that one weakness of the recording, but it easily deserves five stars nevertheless.
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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars great lecture, very good performance March 17 2011
By Ray Barnes - Published on Amazon.com
As usual with the Telarc releases of Maestro Zander with the Philharmonia Orchestra, this includes a CD of commentary, which is the most unusual and enterprising aspect. The commentary, which for once is shorter than the music, is as usual very well presented, insightful and engaging. Zander goes into much detail of the unique features of the orchestral writing, such as using 4 cymbals instead of one, the glissando for the english horn in the 4th movement (achieved by modifying the instrument), and the choice of a posthorn instead of a flugelhorn for the solo in the 3rd movement. It's been noted elsewhere that the solo is not very audible - as it turns out, because it was performed offstage.

I did not find the long first movement completely convincing, it sounded to me like a series of episodes rather than a continuous flow of music. I've read outside of amazon that the rondo finale of Mahler's 5th Symphony suffers from structural weakness and part of the conductor's task is to disguise this problem. I found a similar issue here in the 3rd. The rest of the symphony was in my view wonderful, with fine singing from the soloist and choirs, and a beautiful noble closing adagio, with the tempo in my view judged superbly. If this recording had been offered for less than $15 I would have given it 5 stars based on its overall value. I enjoyed the playing of the 109 musicians in this recording, with really sparkling percussion, and the sound quality was excellent, especially in the bass. The album notes were well written too. There it was mentioned that while playing the final movement, Maestro Zander's baton broke, with some of it flying over the second violins placed (antiphonally) to his right. The performance did not come across to me as being routine or lacking in emotional commitment.

In spite of my dissapointment with the first movement (not with the orchestra), this recording, on the strength of its supplementary discussion CD, is recommended with enthusiasm.
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5.0 out of 5 stars A Triumph of the First Order! Dec 3 2005
By Andrew M. Klein - Published on Amazon.com
Another impassioned, revealing, and riviting Zander peformance of Mahler. Zander shows us just how the enormously complex parts of this great and very long symphony fit together and interact with each other. Other recordings (I think here of Bernstein and Chailly -- both of whom recorded performances that I also love), to my ear, do not do this. Zander clarifies what others blur. Magnificent throughout, Zander's power as a Mahler conductor is nowhere so evident as in the last three movements, played with increasing drama and tension from the contralto tragedy of the fourth movement through the oddly uplifting and promising children's and women's choruses of the fifth, concluding with the profoundly moving sixth, Mahler's first great Adagio. Here Zander made my hair stand on end -- not easy to do. A complete and utter triumph! Not to be missed.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Mahler's 3rd with Listener guide by Michael Steinberg May 22 2011
By aaron shinbein - Published on Amazon.com
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I am not educated in classical music, so I enjoyed the first disc in the set which discusses Mahler and the 3rd Symph. Will be attending performance today by New Jersey Symphony Orch in New Bunswick. The preparation should make my aftrnoon enjoyable. Even tho the disc set was listed as "used," I heard no defects when listening. thanks
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5.0 out of 5 stars Very musical performance June 9 2009
By JJA Kiefte - Published on Amazon.com
I trust that there is not one recording of regardles which musical piece that will satisfy each and every listener. So it is with this version of the third. Perhaps the percussion/timpany in the finale could have been a tad more prominent as on Chailly & RCO (2003; but then: they miss the tam-tam crash that leads into the coda of the first movement), but its better than the very loud (and not always in sync) on Haitink & CSO (2007). The trombonesolo is one of the best doom laden I've heard yet (certainly better than Haitink & RCO 1966, Bernstein & NYP 1988 or Rattle & BPO 1996). The great cymbal clashes in the first movement are very well done (as on Chailly) and nowhere (try for yourself) is the delicate melody by flute, clarinet and oboe (ca. 10 minutes into the finale) played more beautifully that on this recording (the blending and timing of the instruments are absolutely sensational). So for every little wart (and yes, when you listen closely you will undoubtedly find some and if you don't, you just pronounce the interpretation as insufficient and voilà, two or three stars it is), there is also an extra ray of sunshine to counterbalance it. A fine performance, well played and recorded, with a conductor whose understanding of and love for Mahler ooze out of every note (and his educational talk on disc three). No, not 100% perfect, but, thank God, you won't find that anywhere.
14 of 21 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Not as good as I expected. April 2 2005
By David N. Loesch - Published on Amazon.com
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I am a big fan of Benjamin Zander's Mahler. His 4th is the best I have ever heard, and the 5th, 6th and 9th are highly commendable. Zander's insights in his hour long lectures included with each symphony are worth the price of the package which is already a bargain. Thanks to Zander, after 30 years of wrestling with the 9th, I finally understand it. The 3rd, however, is a bit off the mark. It isn't by any means a bad performance, but there are better. My favorites are Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic on DGG and Riccardo Chailly with the Concertgebouw on Decca (a knockout performance by any standards.) I also recommend Bernstein or Michael Tilson-Thomas for the 1st and 6th and Bernstein or Claudio Abbado for the 7th.
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