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Symphonies No. 6 [Hybrid SACD]

Gustav Mahler , Gustav Mahler , Michael Tilson Thomas Audio CD
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5.0 out of 5 stars The end of innocence: Peering into the abyss. Jun 5 2002
Format:Audio CD
In little more than a year, I have now heard four remarkable recordings of Gustav Mahler's Sixth Symphony, each special in its own way and each vying for shelf space next to the version which had long been my favorite, Leonard Bernstein's second recording, with the Vienna Philharmonic, on DGG.

Two of the first three (Benjamin Zander with the Boston Philharmonic Orchestra and Thomas Sanderling with the St. Petersburg Philharmonic Orchestra) got the benefit of some commentary of mine elsewhere at Amazon. The third (Michael Gielen with the SWR Orchestra of Baden-Baden/Freiburg) had been in the queue for similar commentary treatment. And then this Michael Tilson Thomas/San Francisco Symphony Orchestra live performance arrived, putting detailed commentary on the Gielen recording on at least temporary hold.

Tilson Thomas (MTT, for short) has gauged this symphony largely along lines most similar to those of Zander in the outer two movements and Bernstein/Vienna ("Bernstein II") in the inner movements, as a "tale of the tape" (comparative movement timings) shows. Each of these three performances has many strengths and few weaknesses. While I personally think that Zander accomplishes the near-impossible in his shattering realization of the final movement, MTT is very close indeed (and provides two hammer blows vs. three, for those "who are counting"). All three are rather evenly matched in the opening movement, but I give a slight edge to MTT by virtue of the atmospheric effects he is able to achieve with the brief "respite" provided by the celeste and cow bells late in the movement; beautifully done. There is little to choose between Bernstein II and MTT in the second-movement Scherzo; they are within a few seconds of each other and "of a piece." (Here, Zander is considerably more demonic; for some, perhaps slightly too much so.) It is in the third-movement Andante where MTT really shines. At 17'27" he is more than a minute more leisurely than Bernstein II (at 16'16"), who in turn is about a minute faster than Zander. Yet MTT's Andante seems perfectly gauged and not a second too long; a necessary voyage into a different, sublimely beautiful world in a remote key signature before the Finale, with its eventual - and Tragic - felling of Mahler's protagonist/hero.

The recording is one of the new SACD/CD "hybrid" variety, but I have only the ability to play the standard CD layer. Suffice it to say that the standard CD stereo is excellent (particularly for a live-performance recording), with an outstanding sense of hall ambience and "air" and at the same time the ability to hear fine details and inner voices. It lacks nothing in immediacy and in its ability to represent even the strongest passages without evidence of overload or compression. The packaging is lavish, and includes a rather fine essay on the work by Michael Steinberg. Unfortunately for this effort, Michael Steinberg had also been the essay author for the Zander/Boston P.O. performance booklet, in which his exposition of the work and his lyrical flights of wordsmanship were as fine as they get. So here, his essay is somewhat diluted and reduced in effect compared with that earlier effort. But, if you're half the Mahlerite that I am, you'll already have that Zander performance in your library. And you're likely to have the later Bernstein (as well as the earlier Bernstein) and the Sanderling as well.

Can I pick an overall, final favorite among these four or five recordings? Not yet, despite having listened to most of them many times and the new MTT recording several times. But, for reasons I explain below, I'm likely to listen to this MTT recording, at least temporarily, to the exclusion of the others as I continue to grasp just what had been achieved here.

I'd be remiss if I failed to mention the remarkable circumstances under which the performances for this live recording were given. Scheduled many months in advance, they took place during a four-day period beginning September 12, 2001, under what can only be considered as the most difficult and painful of circumstances. It seems that there were absolutely no second thoughts about putting this concert on as originally scheduled, other easier, more "balming" program substitution opportunities notwithstanding. In this context, MTT's sublime third-movement Andante represents, to me, the musical equivalent of "the end of innocence" before "peering into the abyss" of the Finale. It was an act of some courage on the part of MTT, his orchestra, and his San Francisco audience; this document is testimony to that collective courage. And those two events, of 9/11 and the following days of performing and recording this masterpiece, will forever more be inextricably linked in my mind, as "history; one for the ages."

Three and one-half decades ago (almost to the day), the late, great Jack Diether, in writing notes to the first (1967) recording of this work that Leonard Bernstein made with the New York Philharmonic Orchestra, wrote "To those who better understand Mahler, our world, and perhaps themselves, the work as a whole is exhilarating, not depressing. It is pre-eminently cathartic, just as the greatest tragedies of ancient Greece are cathartic." And as these performances must have been to those San Franciscans still reeling from 9/11. Mahler's time had indeed come.

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5.0 out of 5 stars On revisiting MTT's Mahler 6th Dec 12 2003
By Grady Harp TOP 500 REVIEWER
Format:Audio CD
Though I voiced my opinion of this superb recording of the Mahler 6th Symphony by Michael Tilson Thomas and the San Francisco Symphony in February 2002, I returned to this recording after hearing MTT conduct the Los Angeles Philharmonic live in a revisited Mahler 6th. The performance on the recording is a live performance, and indeed the performance with the LA Phil in the incredibly fine new Disney Hall was as 'live' as orchestral performance can be! The interesting comparison is MTT's choice to change the order of the movements of this mighty tragic symphony. In the two years since he recorded the 6th he has rethought the movements and in an eloquent program note he shared his reasons for altering the lineup. The first movement of course remains as does the last - in position as Mahler intended. The novelty was following the 1st movement with the Andante THEN playing the Scherzo just before the Finale: Allegro moderato. The effect is stunning. After the long thundering discourse of the first movement the insertion of the Andante (one of the most languidly beautiful reveries of Mahler's many great slow movements)allows for absorption of the impact of the opening movement. Then the Scherzo can bridge with wry, nasty tongue in cheek comments before the power of the finale sets in.

The SFO plays well for MTT: his performance with the LA Philharmonic revealed even more attention to inner voices and intensity of feeling, perhaps in part due to the superior brass and woodwind sections at his command. Every nuance can be appreciated in the sonics of Disney Hall. This new approach by an ever-growing conductor should be recorded as well. The evening was resplendent! MTT's approach to Mahler continues to command our respect and alter our lives.

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3.0 out of 5 stars Not For The Beginning Napper Oct 7 2003
Format:Audio CD
Now don't get me wrong, Mahler's always good for a nap...but if it's a "I need a good night's rest before my big interview tomorrow" type of sleep you need, head over to Mahler's 9, or better yet, some John Rutter. But back to the disk at hand here. Once you get through the opening cacophony, you can expect to take a fairly restful nap for the first movement or three (and with the length of these movements, that should be a sufficient nap for most), but once the hammers and brass and all sorts of other whatzits get going in the fourth movement, all bets are off. The light sleeper will certainly be unable to continue their slumber through the final movement, and only the confident "I worked 18 hours on my feet in a factory and my next shift starts in 4 hours" sleeper will make it through the whole thing unroused.

I have no idea what "SACD" means, but I was unable to stay "SACkeD" out through the closing bars.

Robert Lewis

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5.0 out of 5 stars Outstanding
As a professional trombonist and Mahler enthusiast I was very curious about this recording. I have seen MTT conduct in London and was highly impressed. Read more
Published on Mar 27 2003 by randy malmstrom
5.0 out of 5 stars glorious tragedy
Originally when I first heard this symphony I really didnt get it. I understood the basic framework but when somebody would tell me something about the work, I just couldn't... Read more
Published on Mar 11 2003 by Daniel Graser
5.0 out of 5 stars One of the best symphonies played by the best
It is in my personal opinion that this is the best Mahler 6 recording I have ever listened to simply because the orchestra under the direction of MTT responds to details that in... Read more
Published on Aug 29 2002 by Alex Bedner
5.0 out of 5 stars Not for the faint of heart
This is a great recording of this great work, a unique and special one, and not for everyone. This live performance cannot be separated from the context of events - this CD was... Read more
Published on Aug 27 2002 by George Grella
4.0 out of 5 stars Brave and Bold
Mahler's 6th symphony is either the highpoint(ask Bernstein, Solti or Karajan) or the lowpoint (ask Abbado, Rattle and Chailly) of a Mahler cycle. Read more
Published on Aug 23 2002 by Rodney Hrvatin
2.0 out of 5 stars All Bluster No Substance
When it comes to playing the very loud sections of this score Tilson Thomas is in fine form but then so is virtually every other Mahler 6th recording. Read more
Published on Jun 25 2002 by "orlac"
5.0 out of 5 stars One of the Best
I cannot add much to others that have praised this recording and performance. The sound is wonderfully clear. Read more
Published on Jun 13 2002
3.0 out of 5 stars There Are Better
One of the finest performances of the Mahler 6th in concert that I have heard was by Tilson Thomas and the Buffalo Philharmonic back in the 1970's. Read more
Published on Jun 11 2002 by NNNNN
5.0 out of 5 stars More to come!
If you read the featured review in the May 2002 issue of Grammophone, you'll know that they raved over this recording and performance by MTT and the SF Symphony of the Mahler Sixth... Read more
Published on May 3 2002 by John L. Anderson
5.0 out of 5 stars From the soul of Mahler comes a fitting elegy for our time
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Published on Feb 19 2002 by Grady Harp
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