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Symphony No. 2/Browning Overtu
 
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Symphony No. 2/Browning Overtu

Ives , Nashville Symphony Audio CD
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1. Robert Browning Overture
2. Symphony No.2
3. Symphony No. 2: II Allegro - Nashville Symphony Orchestra
4. Symphony No. 2: III Adagio cantabile - Nashville Symphony Orchestra
5. Symphony No. 2: IV Lento maestoso - Nashville Symphony Orchestra
6. Symphony No. 2: V Allegro molto vivace - Nashville Symphony Orchestra

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The Nashville Symphony Orchestra gives just as robust and affectionate a performance of Charles Ives' Symphony No.2 on this new Naxos disc as if it was its own music. Ives was of the victorious Federal North, Nashville Tennessee of the losing Confederate South in the American Civil War. Ives' father was the best known bandleader in the Federal army--Abe Lincoln commended him. Ives the son knitted a great many themes associated with the North into his second symphony including "America the Beautiful", "The Red White and Blue" and the bugle call Reveille. There are also a number of quotes by the New England minstrel song composer Stephen Foster ("Massa's in de cold cold ground", "Camptown Races") which tended to sentimentalise life in the South. And then there are the snippets from Brahms, Beethoven and Wagner which did nothing but confirm the symphony's origins in the intellectual, industrial, metropolitan, comfortable, lily-livered North. The 1910 work was not premiered until 1951 by which time it spoke for all 50 states. Good on yer, Nashville. Kenneth Schermerhorn conducts a proud sound both here and in the powerful Robert Browning Overture. --Rick Jones

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A Minority View April 23 2004
Format:Audio CD
I regret to say that some of the earlier, less enthusiastic entries in this sequence of customer reviews more accurately convey the impact of this recording. The orchestra displays technical competence, but is far too restrained to convey the raw excitement Ive's Second Symphony deserves. Even the famous finale comes across as disjointed, even a bit wooden.

As for the Browning Overture, it may be there to justify the usual description of the Second Symphony as being accessible. Next to this dark composition, Hegelian metaphysics and quantum mechanics seem accessible. You definately don't want to play this one on the way to work on Monday morning.

Ive's Second Symphony is one of America's greatest musical treasures and belongs in every music lover's collection. This performance might make a fine second or third version to have on hand, but, if you are going to have only one performance, this shouldn't be it.

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Charles Ives -- "Hard" and "Soft" May 21 2003
Format:Audio CD
Charles Ives (1874-1954) wrote music in an American idiom incorporating American folk tunes and spirituals. He had the ambition that compositions of this nature would find a receptive audience. Ives also composed what remains some of the most difficult, modernistic music of the 20th Century, notable for its atonality, dissonance, and polyrhythm. It is a challenge to hear and to perform. Ives, or course, hoped for an audience for this music as well, while realizing its experimental "hard" character. Much of Ives's music combines both the "hard" and the "soft" elements.

The CD discussed here includes one work by Ives at his "hardest" -- the Robert Browning Overture and a work by Ives at his most accessible -- the Symphony No. 2. The disc is part of the Naxos "American Classics" series. The music is beautifully performed using an updated critical edition by the Nashville Symphony Orchestra directed by Kenneth Schermerhorn and is available at a bargain price.

Ives intended the "Robert Browning Overture" as part of a larger, never-completed project devoted to the work of famous authors. The work is based on Browning's poem "Paracelsus" and for me captures some of the mysterious spirit of alchemy and of the perils of trying to bring entirely nature under human control. The work runs about 25 minutes and alternates muted, mystical music with a loud march-like theme full of dissonances. The brass blares, the strings are shril, and the tympani plays an incessant boom -boom in the backround. Some of this music reminded me of a sophisticated version of Dukas's Sorcerer's Apprentice. Ives became dissatisfied with this piece late in his life apparently because he found it excessively formal. I found myself enjoying this music and thought it held together well.

Ives's second symphony has been well-described as the first real American symphony. He composed it between 1902 and 1910 although the work was not performed until 1951. The work is in five movements and is most notable for its incorporation of American folk songs, revival hymns, college anthems, Steven Foster tunes, and other such distinctive American material. There also are hints of late European romantic composers. The materials are woven together seamlessly in a gentle work with an unmistakably American flavor. In this symphony, I think Ives both captured and created an American form or Art music very much in the way Walt Whitman captured and created an American poetry. It is unfortunate that this work waited so long for recognition.

In his biography "Charles Ives: A Life with Music" Jan Swafford discusses the musical quality of this symphony and of its immediate successor, Ives's Symphony No. 3, noting that "With these two symphonies Ives created single-handedly, the nationalistic art music for which Dvorak had called and a good many American composers attempted without success. Rather than trying to cash in on that accomplishment, Ives moved on. ... His goal was never in the direction of what he would denounce as 'the old medieval idea of nationalism.' Local color to him was a means not an end." (Stafford, p. 158)

This disc will introduce the listener to Ives both hard and soft.
With its recent companion disc on Naxos, which features the Third Symphony, the listener will be able to enjoy and understand Ives's efforts in creating an American symphonic music.

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Highly Recommended for the 2nd Symphony Oct 25 2002
Format:Audio CD
I grew up with the Bernstein recording of the Ives 2nd Symphony which I first heard on LP during the Ives boom circa 1974 that celebrated his 100th birthday. I was a fan of the Bernstein, and wondered how I would respond to what was billed as a very different interpretation, performed by a 'minor' regional orchestra that I had never heard before. Well, I was in for a very pleasant surprise. Overall, I find this performance a major improvement over the Bernstein and fully deserving of a standing ovation for a clear, clean, engaging, fun and surprising moving performance.

The first bravo goes to the Charles Ives's society who engaged Jonathan Elkus in the task of preparing a critical edition. Elkus reports to have corrected nearly a thousand errors in the version used by Bernstein. So, at least in some sense, listening to this version is like listening to a new work.

The second bravo goes to the Naxos recording engineers who have given us a clear, dynamic, and well-balanced recording.

The final bravo goes to Kenneth Schermerhorn and the Nashville Symphony who play with a wonderful sense of ensemble. Clearly, the group must have been very well rehearsed because for the most part (except for some slightly ragged 1st violins in the final movement) the orchestra plays very cleanly. My only nit pick is I wished the French Horn solos had been played with a bit more expression and bit less effort. The brass ensemble work is surprising good though.

For those not familiar with the Ives Second, I think you are in for a treat. Many of the comments made in my review of the MTT/CSO 1st and 4th Symphonies apply here as well. Ives was a genius at making what are for me musical kaleidoscopes. He somehow manages to quote (sometimes in spirit, sometimes literally) from an incredible range of diverse sources, often at the same time, and somehow it not only works, but works brilliantly.

From the liner notes we learn that Ives saw himself as a 'continuing spirit' in the tradition of Beethoven. To my ear the European influences sound more like Brahms, Dvorak, and Wagner, but of course those composers were greatly inspired by Beethoven. Other influences are those found in many of Ives' works including church hymns, band music, and the popular music of his times. This odd sounding (pun intended -grin-) mix results in something that is almost always interesting, and at times fascinating and moving. I find this work immediately accessible and very fresh sounding. With the emergence of this new critical edition once can hope this work will appear on the upcoming schedules of symphony orchestras.

I wasn't familiar with the Robert Browning Overture. My first impression is I didn't feel like I had missed anything. It uses some of the compositional techniques found in works like the 4th Symphony (which I am a huge fan of), but regretfully this work didn't do much for me. It certainly seems to be a difficult work from both the POV of the performers and the audience. The orchestra seemed to lack the confidence they showed in the 2nd. Too much of the performance sounds ragged to me. As for the work itself, Ives was not satisfied with it and later repudiated it.

But, please do not let these less than enthusiastic comments dissuade you from buying this CD. I highly recommend it. All the better that it's available at a bargain price.

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Most recent customer reviews
Browning Overture.
I have enjoyed Charles Ives' music since I was an undergraduate during the early 1970s. I would call the Browning Overture one of the most deliciously beautiful pieces of music... Read more
Published on Dec 24 2001 by Tom Brody
Ives as basic American repertoire.
This superb recording is Charles Ives as basic American repertoire; post-Brahmsian, late-Romantic, willfully unsophisticated in tone - which of course is partly a ruse. Read more
Published on Dec 13 2001 by DJ Rix
You get what you pay for
This recording just doesn't achieve the fullness and cohesive complexity of two works that are extremely challenging, although in completely different ways. Read more
Published on Nov 14 2001 by Chris Huston
Good, but could be better
Charles Ives' Symphony No. 2 is my favorite symphony, period. I have every recording of it that I am aware of and I even have the sheet music for study (although not the new... Read more
Published on Sep 6 2001
Uncommonly Bland Performance of an Exciting Work
I grew up in the 1960's with the Bernstein recording of the Ives Second. Although this recording with the Nashville Symphony claims to use a more authentic edition of the score, I... Read more
Published on May 31 2001 by David N. Loesch
A definitive recording for a bargain price
It is difficult to imagine why anyone remotely interested in modern classical music would have the temerity to complain (i.e. whine) about this CD. Read more
Published on Mar 31 2001
Lionel
Not at all what I expected.

I found the music rich and full of sub melodies and thematic excursions. Read more

Published on Jan 19 2001 by Lionel Jellins
Stand up and use your Ears like a Man!
Interest in Charles Ives (1874-1954) peaked in the 1970s. I remember playing the Bernstein LP of the "Holidays" Symphony with the volume cranked up on the cabinet stereo in the... Read more
Published on Nov 18 2000 by Thomas F. Bertonneau
Good Ives Recording
I was raised on movie soundtracks and scores from the likes of Bernard Herrmann, Dimitri Tiomkin, Alex North and others. Read more
Published on Nov 12 2000 by gobirds2
Wonderful recording of American masterpieces
Anyone familiar with Ives' music most likely knows his great Symphony No. 2 - a grand romantic work that matches the European masters in its technical assuredness, while suprising... Read more
Published on Oct 1 2000 by "ghills123"
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