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Symphony No. 8

Bruckner Audio CD
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Disc: 1
1. Symphony No. 8 In C Minor: Allegro moderato
2. Symphony No. 8 In C Minor: Scherzo : Allegro moderato - Trio : Allegro moderato
3. Symphony No. 8 In C Minor: Adagio : Feierlich langsam, doch nicht schleppend
Disc: 2
1. Symphony No. 8 In C Minor: Finale : Feierlich, Nicht Schnell
2. Symphony No. 0 In D Minor 'Die Nullte': Allegro
3. Symphony No. 0 In D Minor 'Die Nullte': Andante
4. Symphony No. 0 In D Minor 'Die Nullte': Scherzo : Presto - Trio : Langsamer und ruhiger
5. Symphony No. 0 In D Minor 'Die Nullte': Finale : Moderato

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George Tintner's program notes forthrightly touch upon both the strengths and gaucheries of Bruckner's seldom heard 1887 first version of the Eighth Symphony and the composer's early "Symphony No. 0." Tintner proves just as clear-headed and loving a Brucknerian from the vantagepoint of the podium. He takes the composer's tempo relationships on faith, letting the music run its natural course while never letting the momentum sag one drop. The orchestra breathes as well as sings together, although the splendid brass section tends to overpower the winds during loud tuttis. Still and all, anyone who cares about Bruckner should not pass up this illuminating release. --Jed Distler

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Symphonie n° 8, WAB 108 - Symphonie n° 0, WAB100 / Orchestre Symphonique National d'Irlande, dir. Georg Tintner

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5.0 out of 5 stars Impressive Bruckner June 20 2003
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I don't see a problem with revised works until debates emerged about Bruckner's various versions of each symphony (I think with exception of Symphony no 7). Tchaikovsky, Mahler and considerable number of symphonists particularly revised their works thoroughly, but it is Bruckner who gets most attention because usually his revision are done under pressure from many who didn't understand him as quoted from one of his admirers "He is a genius without talent".
This symphony is fascinating mainly because the market only practically has original Haas 1890 version and Nowak recordings in the market and only Inbal, as I understand, recorded this 1887 version. What struck me was this symphony's difference from Haas version is like stepping into an alternate universe. It doesn't sound independent from Haas version, yet there is many intriguing differences.
I personally love the first and second movement. The first movement is much more spiritual and mysterious compared to Haas version, whereas the latter sounds rushed when you hear both versions of the same movement. The second movement has much more vigour whereas the Haas version is more simplified and rather, dignified compared to a much more brash 1887 version. My only complaint is the 1887 version of Adagio, with painful counterpoints and very, very sappy climax. No fault of Tintner for that is why the Adagio is the only redeeming feature of 1890 Haas Version.
Georg Tintner maybe the sole sparkling gem of Naxos' compared to a huge array of maestros on other labels like Deutche Gramophon or EMI. Listeners don't simply buy his Bruckner because simply the recording is much more affordable. The Ireland Symphony is on a class on it's own with Tintner leading "Die Nullte" symphony, i considered the best symphony of Bruckner after Symphony no 4 and 8. I think it's one of the CDs that all lovers of symphonic music should own.
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5.0 out of 5 stars First thoughts... March 30 2003
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Allow me to add my two cents worth on this recording. First of all, this is the first time I've heard the original version of Bruckner's 8th. I must say its a fascinating experience, since it diverges so substantially from the 1890 version that we all know. Particularly the first three movements. The last movement is virtually the same, except for the coda and final peroration. Overall, I find the orchestration more interesting, colourful, and polyphonic; although it lacks the emotional impact of the standard 1890 Nowak version. Well...to be fair, I did find much that is quite beautiful and spiritual in this version that seems to be lacking in the later edition. But overall, if I had to make a choice, I'd prefer the standard 1890 edition. My suggestion: if you already have a recording of the 1890 version, you have to add Tintner's eighth to your collection, just to hear the composer's fascinating first thoughts. The performance is first rate and both the conductor and orchestra make an eloquent case for this rarely performed version. Oh yes, I almost forgot, this double cd set includes the 0 symphony (interesting historically but not particularly inspired). If, on the other hand, this is the only recording you have of Bruckner's 8th (highly doubtful but I suppose stranger things have happened), hurry up and buy the standard 1890 version as well! I recommend Karajan's 1958 version on EMI with BPO. Its a lot better than his last version on DG, which is very muddy and lacks a clear polyphonic texture. I haven't heard Celibidache's recording(s)(a little harder to find in my neck of the woods), but I suspect he has a far less conventional approach than Karajan. I would also recommend Giulini's VPO recording on DG, except I haven't heard it yet, but going by hearsay it seems like a winner. Read more ›
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5.0 out of 5 stars Tintner's "Geistliche" Bruckner Oct. 6 2000
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Nearly thirty years ago, a former member of the L.A. Philharmonic under Otto Klemperer said to me that he thought of Bruckner as a composer who "had had his day," despite the efforts at the time (the mid-1970s) to foster a widespread revival of interest in his work. The individual in question was Austrian by birth, a man of profound musical education, and an admirer of Bruckner's symphonic art. It simply struck him as implausible that these gargantuan scores, with their extreme demands on audience attention, had much of a future in the concert hall. With slightly less tenacity, perhaps, than Mahler, Bruckner has proved my old friend (long since departed from this earth) wrong. One symptom of the curious peristence of Bruckner is the proliferation of recorded versions of his scores. The Fourth and Seventh Symphonies in particular may be obtained in dozens, if not scores, of competing performances. But it is a mark of how central Bruckner has become to the symphonic repertory that a half a dozen complete sets of his symphonies bedizen the "B" pages of the recorded music catalogues at any given time. To call attention to itself, then, any new traversal of the Bruckner symphonies must possesses extraordinarily individual character. The late Georg Tintner's cycle, for Naxos, is one such, and his interpretation of the mighty Eighth Symphony (C-Minor) tells us why. Tintner - who died, in his late eighties, a year ago - lavished studious attention on the different versions of Bruckner's scores. For his recording of the Eighth, he chose the rarely visited first-version of the work, which is the longest of the two major competing versions, and whose First Movement is significantly different from the one that most of us know. Read more ›
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5.0 out of 5 stars Eighth Symphony (1887 Version) and the "Zeroth" Symphony
PERFORMANCES: 9 out of 10.
RECORDINGS: 9 out of 10.
THE 1887 VERSION OF THE 8th SYMPHONY:
There are 2 authentic versions of the 8th -one from 1887 and one from... Read more
Published on Aug. 7 2000 by "davidsbundler"
5.0 out of 5 stars A near-perfect performance of a hitherto unperformed work
The first thing to say about Georg Tintner is that he is perhaps the greatest Bruckner conductor who ever lived. Read more
Published on June 8 2000 by Rick Williams
4.0 out of 5 stars Wonderful
It's A Perfect Interpretation By Georg Tintner but the Version of this symphony is different from any other version , I mean completely Different! Read more
Published on April 6 2000
5.0 out of 5 stars Time to Discover Bruckner's "Original" Eighth Symphony
I recommend this set to anyone who has puzzled over the darkening sky in Bruckner's last two symphonies. Read more
Published on March 30 2000 by Kenneth Duckworth
4.0 out of 5 stars A Bruckner 8th of exquisite proportion
There are two ways to do Bruckner: fast or slow. It doesn't matter which way you do it, it'll work, as long as you're consistent and respect Bruckner's proportions. Read more
Published on Nov. 5 1999
5.0 out of 5 stars A great performance of a major musical landmark.
Some of the world's greatest orchestras and most celebrated conductors have recorded Bruckner's monumental 8th Symphony, but this wonderful effort by lesser-known forces ranks... Read more
Published on March 18 1999
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