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Symphony No. 8 [SACD]

Thielemann; Staatskapelle Dresden , Bruckner Anton Audio CD

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4.0 out of 5 stars A slow start turns into an impressive Eighth, gorgeously played Oct 26 2010
By Santa Fe Listener - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
So far as I know, this is the first recording from the Staatskapelle Dresden and their new music director, recorded at a guest appearance in Sept. 2009 (the former music director, Fabio Luisi, wasn't renewed, while in Munich, where Thielemann headed the Philharmonic, his departure was just as abrupt; it was his choice, however). this is the Bruckner Eighth in the Haas edition taking up two full-priced discs. To find a market at that price, it would have to be very special. The opening bars aren't especially promising. The pace is steady, the balances good, but there's a certain pedestrian quality that belies the glowing reviews circulated by Profil in support of this set.

Steadily, however, one detects special qualities in the blend of the orchestra (which has a distinctive sound in concert that is hardly ever caught on CD; this one being not especially notable so far as recorded sound goes); on my system there's a certain amount of glare in upper strings and high brass at loud volume. Thielemann keeps going his steady way. Being an avowed traditionalist, perhaps Thielemann is harking back to Knappertsbusch's rock-solid steadiness. If so, I am not entirely happy to remember those good old days. My impression of slowness, however, is belied by the actual timings, 15 min. for both the first movement and Scherzo, which is actually a minute faster than Karajan (his last, illustrious recording with the Vienna Phil. on DG) or Harnoncourt. Even so, the Scherzo in Thielemann's hands has not much lift off, despite his attention to detail and molding of phrases.

The sublime Adagio is one of the crowning glories of the nine symphonies, and it delivers its deepest emotions at a slow pace, exactly what Thielemann chooses here (the timing is 27 min.). He made his reputation as a young conductor by drastically slowing down the Schumann symphonies, and although that phase seems to be past, Thielemann is most at home when he can sculpt an ensemble lovingly and at leisure. I've heard the Adagio with more spine, but this version doesn't sag -- the long line sweeps upward and holds its shape in a continuous arc. The resuslt is engrossing and moving.

The explosive finale could benefit from better sound -- it's a bit rough and ready here -- yet Thielemann holds sway impressively. He doesn't create the stark contrasts that Karajan demanded; everything is more blended. There's enough broad, slow music to play to the conductor's strengths in the long line, and the Dresden strings are magnificent. I was also impressed that Thielemann found a way to unite the episodes of tis movement so that they didn't become disjointed. Despite my lack of interest in the first movement, this wound up being a strong BRuckner Eighth, the best in modern sound since the Boulez and Harnoncourt versions, which are 14 and 10 years old respectively.
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4.0 out of 5 stars A Bruckner of our Times V2 May 15 2013
By Bernard Michael O'Hanlon - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
Whenever I listen to Bruckner's mighty Eighth utterance, that lyric from the Carpenters, "We've only just begun" comes to mind. Will we ever understand the genesis of this work or its final address? Who can fully encompass its meaning? Does it distil a vision of the universe which the composer, a latterday Parsifal, was afforded whereas we mendicants "see through the glass darkly" at best?

All power to Christian Thielemann for looking like Klaus von Stauffenberg and refusing to conduct Mahler. This is a Bruckner Eighth in the grand old tradition. Thielemann sees the wood from the trees: there are no forays into the latter at the expense of the wider journey. While the recording has its vagaries, who can resist the opulence of the Dresden Staatskapelle (and its double-basses in particular)? Thankfully, the Haas Edition is in play.

Even so, I am not going to listen to this performance in preference to Herbie ('44, '57, '76 and '88) or Edition Hans Knappertsbusch & Bpo: Comp Rias Rec where Kna pokes the Berlin Philharmonic.

However one interprets it, an Otherness underwrites the Bruckner Eighth. It warrants awe and tension in equal measure. Such responses are not to be equated with a great orchestra blazing away in a minor key. Take two instances in the first movement (they occur here at 8'04 ff & 13'03"ff): both Herbie and Kna fully evoke the composer's own terror and anguish in a way that brings Isaiah 6:5 to mind "Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of Hosts!" (no, this is not a reference to Elvis). In comparison all I hear from Thielemann is notes, consummated played and sensitively conducted. To my ears, the latter three movements are cut from the same cloth.

All in all, this is a fine recording of a masterpiece. In the current milieu, it is probably the best we can hope for. But the Word it ain't. If you want to semi-glimpse what Bruckner saw, look elsewhere.
5 of 7 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Mighty Fine Bruckner Jan 31 2011
By J. F. Laurson - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
This is Bruckner rather done in a different manner than Roger Norrington's [see review of his Sixth]. Christian Thielemann celebrates the many moments in Bruckner; enters a musical world where sound, more than anything (and certainly more than the finishing line) is paramount. This (one-off) live recording of the Eighth Symphony (Ed. R.Haas) was made in September 2009 at the Dresden Semperoper and was, as Thielemann has called it, his "courtship concert" with the orchestra which he will take over next season after getting the ignominious boot from the MPhil. It brings together the best Bruckner ingredients that can be found in Germany; the Dresden orchestra (sure to fully recover its luminous tone) and the sound-fetishist Thielemann with a special touch in Bruckner. (See his Fifth on DG, for example. Review on ionarts.)

Given that, the expectations are naturally extraordinarily high and almost as naturally disappointed: for its many excellent qualities, this isn't--even if it were possible--the definitive Eighth, merely an excellent one. A natural sense for tempos makes every flowing movement feel ideal, though, and every climax is carved out with supreme care. `Perfection' might be--among other things--an even keener sense for the long line (especially in the finale), but even shy of perfection this is such an impressive Bruckner document that it ranks very high in the crowded field of excellent 8th Symphonies. A minor quibble: I almost wish this was a regular CD, not an SACD, because then the total 82 minutes and 57 seconds could have been squeezed onto one disc. Five Stars, if it weren't for the strong competition from Boulez to Karajan to supremo G.Wand (Berlin or Luebeck)

[from the >Best Recordings of 2010 - "Almost List"< at ionarts.org]

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