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The Myth of the Muslim Tide: Do Immigrants Threaten the West? Hardcover – Aug 21 2012

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  • Hardcover: 208 pages
  • Publisher: Knopf Canada; 1st Edition edition (Aug. 21 2012)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0307362078
  • ISBN-13: 978-0307362070
  • Product Dimensions: 14.6 x 2.2 x 21.7 cm
  • Shipping Weight: 340 g
  • Average Customer Review: 3.8 out of 5 stars 4 customer reviews
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A Publishers Weekly Top 10 Politics Book [Fall 2012]
 
“Doug Saunders may be on his way to becoming the most important journalist in the Canadian mainstream media.... In a cool-headed manner, Saunders dismantles...claims one at a time with a relentless onslaught of facts.... The Myth of the Muslim Tide is a welcome antidote [to Islamophobia] and for that reason alone, it deserves wide readership.”
The Georgia Straight
 
“Elegantly written and important.”
iPolitics
 
“Convincing…. The Myth of the Muslim Tide should be welcomed in necessary public debates.”
The Globe and Mail
 
“Nuanced, informative…. Saunders’ approach is refreshingly levelheaded and fact-based…. An invaluable contribution to the contemporary debate over Muslim immigration and integration into Western communities.”
Kirkus Reviews
 
“Cogent and timely.”
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About the Author

Doug Saunders is the former European Bureau Chief of the Globe and Mail and the author of Arrival City: The Final Migration and Our Next World, which won the Donner Prize, and which the Guardian said "may be the best popular book on cities since Jane Jacobs's The Death and Life of Great American Cities half a century ago." He has won four National Newspaper Awards. Saunders lives in Toronto.
 

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Congratulations to Doug Saunders for raising a voice of calm and reason against hysteria about Muslim immigration to the West. His meticulous reporting should reassure anyone fretting that Muslims are set to conquer the world by ideological intent and demographic inevitability. If you harbour any such anxieties, this book is well worth reading. For most of us living with Muslim neighbours, we already know that this fear is illusory, fanned by fringe elements of the media to the benefit of only their own book sales. In fact, the author begins each chapter with quotations from popular alarmists, then systematically demolishes their claims. I found this format to be powerful and convincing.
What I found most original and interesting about this book was how it places the current islamophobia in historical context. Saunders demonstrates nicely how prejudice against an influx of potentially dangerous “others” has recurred throughout modern Western history, only to be ultimately washed away by the peaceful forces of integration into a prosperous society. The ironic sense of “tide” in the title thus becomes apparent only when you finish reading the book, or at least the middle of its three sections.
The final section, “What we should worry about”, offers politically correct suggestions about how better education and job opportunities would help prevent extremist violence. Those measures would improve life for all of us. What is only tangentially addressed here, and I was hoping would be further explored, is how a tiny minority of second-generation immigrants are indoctrinated and enabled to act out violently against the West. As Saunders points out, these extremists tend to be well educated and integrated into western society. It seems to me that this is something we should worry about. Maybe another book can address that, which is why I withhold one star in rating this one.
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I am biased of course, but this book is not just about Muslims, but about how humanity tends to repeat its mistakes, how we all disguise our own prejudice. an amazing read.
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The author appears to be trying to prove a generalization on a global basis. It is somewhat obvious that Muslims immigrating to Canada and the United States for the right reasons are no threat whatever. The author appears to have traveled extensively and has done much research on immigration statistics. However, he seriously misrepresents many scholarly authors completely out of context to support his case. His misrepresentations are so outrageous that I question whether he has read those authors thoroughly. He has ignored, or is simply blind to the growing intensity and power of Islamic extremists in Muslim countries and the infiltration of the West by their operatives. Moreover, these extremist operatives are a serious threat to the Muslims the author is trying to support. They have immigrated to Canada and the US to escape the tyranny of, and abuse by political Islam. Is this book a reflection of "forgive him Lord for he knows not..." OR in the words of Bertrand Russell, "He who observes a crime in silence, commits it."
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Sanders does a first rate job of arguing (and backing that argument with facts) that the fears of Muslim immigration among Europeans and North Americans is groundless. Bravo!
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Amazon.com: HASH(0xa2278138) out of 5 stars 30 reviews
15 of 18 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa269edec) out of 5 stars History, Science and Statistics - All in One Jan. 26 2013
By Shah Alam - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
The one thing that stands out in "The Myth of the Muslim Tide" is that it's not based on the author's personal whims or views: it's based on exhaustive research and the derived statistics. It delves deep in to the history of immigration and assimilation from as far back as 200 years.

Reading this book had me better educated not only about the myths of the current immigration tide of Muslims but also on the history of Catholic and Jewish immigration to US and Western Europe. Comparing and correlating that background with the analysis of the current statistical data, the author very ably and logically concludes that the fears of the Muslim tide are over blown. The chapter "We have been here before" draws an excellent comparison of similarities between the fears and myths of earlier migrations and that of the current one of Muslims.

Let me make an honest admission here. I am a Muslim immigrant myself and had almost started to believe somewhat in the fears expressed by those who said that Muslims were working on an agenda - that of having the entire host society succumb to the Sharia law - and it's only after reading this book I realized that such reservations were no more than hallucination.

I would recommend this book to all who have reservations about the growing Muslim population and culture among their midst and would go beyond: I would seriously suggest that a condensed version of this book be made part of the curriculum for grade 9 to 10 students so that they can enter their adult life equipped with facts rather than fallacies.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa269ee40) out of 5 stars Solid Book based on Data Nov. 20 2013
By Joseph F. Leavitt - Published on Amazon.com
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Excellent Book. Saunders does a great job of countering the popular fear that many seem to have about the "threats" that Muslims bring to the "West" by providing an overwhelming amount of empirical data. The only downside is that it can sometimes be somewhat repetitive and somewhat data overload (but would rather have it lean this way than the other). Great book to challenge misinformed perceptions.

One example is the fact that Mohammed is the most popular name given to sons in Britain. Saunders does a good job of explaining that over 50% of Muslims give their son this name. Also, this fact includes counting around 11 or 13 different variations of the name Mohammed.
5 of 7 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa2486138) out of 5 stars Beneath the surface of the tide metaphor Jan. 21 2013
By Ken Kardash - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
Congratulations to Doug Saunders for raising a voice of calm and reason against hysteria about Muslim immigration to the West. His meticulous reporting should reassure anyone fretting that Muslims are set to conquer the world by ideological intent and demographic inevitability. If you harbour any such anxieties, this book is well worth reading. For most of us living with Muslim neighbours, we already know that this fear is illusory, fanned by fringe elements of the media to the benefit of only their own book sales. In fact, the author begins each chapter with quotations from popular alarmists, then systematically demolishes their claims. I found this format to be powerful and convincing.
What I found most original and interesting about this book was how it places the current islamophobia in historical context. Saunders demonstrates nicely how prejudice against an influx of potentially dangerous "others" has recurred throughout modern Western history, only to be ultimately washed away by the peaceful forces of integration into a prosperous society. The ironic sense of "tide" in the title thus becomes apparent only when you finish reading the book, or at least the middle of its three sections.
The final section, "What we should worry about", offers politically correct suggestions about how better education and job opportunities would help prevent extremist violence. Those measures would improve life for all of us. What is only tangentially addressed here, and I was hoping would be further explored, is how a tiny minority of second-generation immigrants are indoctrinated and enabled to act out violently against the West. As Saunders points out, these extremists tend to be well educated and integrated into western society. It seems to me that this is something we should worry about. Maybe another book can address that, which is why I withhold one star in rating this one.
4 of 6 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa2486648) out of 5 stars well written reminder to look at history when considering the events of the present Jan. 26 2013
By Lois M. Rankin - Published on Amazon.com
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The book is well written in concise, easy to understand language. The author reminds the reader to recall the hysteria or near-hysteria that the wave of Catholic immigration ignited. Saunders points out that because of the uprisings in Arab and N. African countries many Muslims have been stripped of national identity substituting religious identity in its place. Although there are strong elemets of conservatism in the Muslim communities there is an opening up that includes the use of birth control and the education of girls. The book is strong reminder to look at the whol;e picture and be over whelmed by claims without substance.
15 of 23 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa269ef00) out of 5 stars Half of the Truth June 30 2014
By Daniel G. Schaeffer - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
If you're one of these people who's OD'd on the Horowitz crowd and you lie awake sweating over the impending fall of Western civilization, this is the book for you. There aren't enough Muslims in the US to be statistically significant and probably never will be, and England won't magically turn into Iran any time soon. And yeah, Melanie Phillips really has shown herself to be a a bit of a twit and a whiner, hasn't she?

The problem here is about what one would expect. Much like Noam Chomsky or Ian Buruma, though in an admittedly far less toxic way, because he's clearly non-PC, Doug Saunders doesn't have a very firm grasp of what Islam actually is, and what it has really done to impede any social OR ETHICAL progress in Dar-al-Islam, and why.

He has a long section comparing the position of Muslim immigrants with that of previous Catholic and Jewish ones. It's a really shallow analogy, because Islam is a radically different KIND of religion than either. As follows:

"I am in agreement with secular Muslims like Salman Rushdie and Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... when they argue that the instructions of the Koran ... are enormously harmful to those who are subject to them, especially women ... (p. 6)."

Catch what's wrong here? Rushdie and Ali are not Muslims at all!!! They're apostates, and hence under death sentences. Further, they know a LOT more about the Koran than Saunders does. Example: Muslims are ordered not to fraternize with, or sympathize with, the infidels for fear of risking damnation, and these orders are absolute and forever. No wonder so many have a difficult time integrating. Further, if it will take one Muslim family two or three generations to integrate fully, what about the fact that fresh immigrants will have to repeat the process indefinitely?

I can recommend this book, but with a STRONG proviso. Before you buy it, watch a couple of Youtube videos. One, by Taslima Nasrin, entitled "My Fight for Secularism," will give you some idea of what intelligent Muslims have to put up with. It will literally bring tears to your eyes. The other, by Maryam Namazie, is entitled "Islamic Inquisition." And be sure to catch the question and answer bit at the end, where she DESTROYS a moderate Muslim, of the sort Doug Saunders wants to cultivate here in the West.

In Namazie's view, as in the views of so many ex-Muslim intellectuals who have to live with constant threats of violence, there really is no distinction between Islam (i.e. the "religious" kind) and Islamism (the radical "political" kind). Since Islam was political BEFORE it was religious (see Tom Holland's recent history thereof on this point) they are precisely the same thing, and this has never been true of Christianity, which is why Islam has so often been at war with Christianity.

The refusal of both "moderates" and Western "liberals" to recognize this is nearly as morally cancerous as the death-penalty-for-apostasy tradition it sugar-coats, because it allows the latter.

I'm afraid that Saunders' solution, "Hey, folks, let's just chill," won't solve the problem, only prolong it, because the "problem" of Muslim immigration is really one of two inimical systems of ethics. And one of them is a dark age fossil.


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