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by Friedrich Nietzsche (Author) "WHEN Zarathustra was thirty years old, he left his home and the lake of his home and went into the mountains ..." (more)
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God is dead, and the superman is nigh! Nietzsche couched this ultimate expression of his philosophy (1883-91), not as a closely reasoned treatise, but as the passionate utterances of an ancient Persian prophet, Zarathustra, couched in a pseudo-biblical German. In this recording, brief glosses introduce sections of the text, while bits of the Strauss tone poem of the same name bridge major transitions. The narrators speak clearly and with comprehension, but they're stuffy; whereas, the book is anything but. Y.R. © AudioFile 2005, Portland, Maine-- Copyright © AudioFile, Portland, Maine --This text refers to the Audio CD edition.


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A 19th-century literary masterpiece, tremendously influential in the arts and in philosophy, uses the Persian religious leader Zarathustra to voice the author's views, including the introduction of the controversial doctrine of the Übermensch, or "superman," a term later perverted by Nazi propagandists. A passionate, quasi-biblical style is employed to inspire readers.
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5.0 out of 5 stars The ascension of the "overman", Jan 8 2004
By James P. Gibb (Peoria, Il USA) - See all my reviews
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What a wealth of ideas Nietzsche presents, from a man with a excessively intense mind. Philosophical, poetic, psychological, sociological, and social Darwinism all juxposized into a amazing free flowing work of fiction from a philosopher and self proclaimed psychologist. I would warn anyone with a weak heart and subtle ideas not to read this book beacuse it will change you. Nietzsche had a torn yet brilliant mind, who along with Arthur Schopenhauer predicted and wrote about theories that Sigmund Freud later popularized. In fact, Freud did not want to read Nietzsche because he wanted to keep his psychoanalytic findings as pure as possible.
I have read this book three times and I never read a book more then once. Nietzsche was so full of angst and passion that I have to read Zarathurstra in short bursts in order to come down from the high he creates in my head.. I highly recommend this book for the srong willed those with "the will to power."
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3.0 out of 5 stars Worth Reading, April 18 2004
By "smalley6" (Dunbar, WV) - See all my reviews
Nietzsche has been said to be one of the greatest influances on modern philosophy, especially the existentialist movement and Zarathustra shows the reader just why he was a large influance. Nietzsche's works are truly like no ohter writer's, however, his philosophy seemed to be ignorant and sexist at times to myself, but none the less I do feel that everyone should read some of Nietzsche's works (or any philosopher's works for that matter). I do enjoy Nietzsche's argument against modern Christianity and the herd mentaility of the masses, but I think those two things would have to be my favorite philosophical views of Nietzsche. I give this book and Nietzsche in general, three stars because, while he will be an influance and is a good read, his philosophy is not the greatest at many points and is often misunderstood by people.
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5.0 out of 5 stars The "New" Repulic., Oct 19 2003
Ce commentaire est de: Thus Spoke Zarathustra: A Book for All and None (Hardcover)
The only other western philosophical text as importnat as this book is Plato's "Republic." We have once again arrived at the cross-roads of Heraclitus v/s Paramendides. I wouldn't recommended jumping into it without a good knowledge of the Western philosophical traditon and religious traditions. (Zarathutra himself calls learning ALL this backround information "the spirit of the camel" or first taking on the burden of knowledge before going about anything else. To not take on this "burden of knowledge" is the main flaw of most Nietzsche critics and mis-understanders.) Also, Nietzsche was an anti-systemic philosopher so it demands to be viewed/critiqued in a different way than traditional philosophy. To begin to grasp Nietzsche's "Zarathustra" I would to recommend first reading his earlier works starting with a couple of short essays. The first one is "Truth and Lie in a Non-Moral Sense" which is about human language, logic and the all-too-human need for these "lies." The other essay is "Homer's Contest" which reveals his legacy as starting from the early Greek tradition.
Some important things to know about this book to avoid the common misinterpretation that Nietzsche is just a Atheist/Nihilist with a superiority complex:
-pay very close attention to his critque of mind/body dualsism and what he proposes otherwise.
-The "Overman" is a conception that only looks toward the future. Later in the book Zarathustra supercedes the "Overman" idea with the cyclical concept of "Eternal Recourence." Even Zarathustra himself has a hard time confronting this view of life and existence. Also, don't make the mistake that eternal reccourence is just a "telos," it is not. Zarathutra speaks in parables not absolutes.
-One of Nietzsche's most favorite authors was Emerson (who also used the name "Zarathutra" in his some of his writings) and their ideas/project have mainy similarities.
-The idea of the world/life not being worthy without a metaphysical world behind it is exactaly what Nietzsche was aimed at overcoming.
-Don't over-simplify will-to-Power as will-to-Overpower.
-Think hard about this being a "book for all and none," think very hard.
-Plato's "Sun" is replaced with "sun" of the Self. This "sun" is the "dancing star." For some odd reason, I see few people mention the signifcance of Self-love in "Zarathustra." This is KEY in understanding where Nietzsche is going/taking us.
-Nietzsche isn't worldly political like the Republic, instead he symbolically speaks of the battle of modern human soul in political terms.

As far as translations go, I prefer Kaufmann over Holingdale because he pays more attetntion to the nuances of Nitezsche's word play. But I would recommend reading more than one translation and getting the best out of all of them.

I also would recommend getting some familiarity with the symbols of alchemy and other mystery traditions. Just as Nietzsche turns Plato's "Theory of the Line" and "Allegory of the Cave" upside-down, he also turns these "mystery" symbols inside-out. No longer is it a connection with anything "beyond" the world that makes it valuable. Instead,It becomes conections with body and the world. "The mind is a herald of the body." For example, consider the "ouroboros" as a symbol of "Eternal Recurrence." In some sense, Zarathutra was very much a prophet of holism as opposed to strict dualism. Carl Jung's 1,500+ page incomplete study of "Zarathura" is a testement to the richness of Zarathustra's symbolism.

If you can catch a deep enough glance, this book will change your life. And if you keep re-reading it, it will keep on changing your life.

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