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Toto CST744SG-01 Drake 2-Piece Toilet with Elongated Bowl and Sanagloss (Cotton White)

by Toto
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Technical Details
Part NumberCST744SG#01
Item Weight9 Kg
Product Dimensions71.1 x 49.5 x 72.4 cm
Item model numberCST744SG-01
Item Package Quantity1
Weight8.6 kilograms
Length71.1 centimeter
Width49.5 centimeter
Height72.4 centimeter
  
Additional Information
ASINB0012HBQK8
Best Sellers Rank #22,894 in Tools & Home Improvement (See top 100)
Shipping Weight47 Kg
Date First AvailableJuly 8 2013
  
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Great Toilet April 22 2012
Verified Purchase
We have small kids and we use wet-wipes everyday. We experienced more clogging when our wet-wipe usage increased in recent months. I read the instructions on the wet-wipe box and indeed it says that it could clog the toilet if flushed. I started searching for a solution and bought this unit after reading so much good reviews on the internet. The main difference that I noticed is that this toilet sucks the solids and liquids as soon as I flush it and rinses the bowl at the same time. The other toilet that I replaced had the water level increase at first before draining the liquids and solids. We noticed a significant improvement in flushing and no clogging to date.
The installation was not difficult, instruction documents are provided inside the tank packaging. I found this after printing instructions from Toto website. I bought a contractor toilet installation kit from HD for $10. It included the Wax Ring, new hose and brass screws and bolts. I didn't have to use the included brass washer from the kit. The only time consuming part was sanding and cleaning the floor bracket to get a clean and smooth surface and create a new seal with the new Wax Ring from the kit. You should take care not to over tighten the bowl as it may crack the ceramic. The instructions explain how to complete the tightening of the bolts for each part. Also, you need to make sure that the toilet is square to the wall and in its final resting position before pushing down on the bowl to set it in place and creating a seal with the Wax Ring.
The pricing, delivery and customer service from Amazon.ca has been very good. I ordered 3 more units for my home and my parents home.
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Amazon.com: 4.6 out of 5 stars  263 reviews
113 of 115 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Tremendous performance & value. Wish I had bought this years ago. July 18 2011
By sunny day 213 - Published on Amazon.com
Will flush ANYTHING. Quiet. Saves water and money. Easy to install. The independent MaP research rates this toilet's flushing extremely high (900 grams of solid waste......I found that many toilets fail to flush even 250 grams).

My plumber recommended this brand and model as a great value. It's about half the price of other high-performance toilets, and it is the most reliable model he's found. I now have two of these. The 1.6 gallons per flush Toto Drakes replaced one 5 gallon per flush, and another that was 7 gallons per flush. Man, I wish I had replaced these two water guzzlers years ago.

Another thing to consider is the fact that some of the newer high performance toilets have replacement parts that are hard to find, expensive to buy and difficult to install. The Drake parts are available in most hardware stores, are inexpensive, and easy (real easy) to install.
161 of 168 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars This Toilet Turned Me Into A Toto Fan! Sept. 14 2010
By Paul S. Remington - Published on Amazon.com
About six years ago I helped a friend of mine equip his entire house with Toto Drake toilets. He spent a lot of time researching toilets and settled on the Drake. I was living in a new condo unit at the time and the toilets there were the standard American Standards you see just about everywhere. Double flushing was part of my everyday life. What a senseless waste of water, I used to think. These efficiency toilets where a joke, but what are you going to do? That's just the way they make them now'days.

Or so I thought...

So over the course of an afternoon my friend and I put together and installed four of these suckers and they all worked great! Maybe we got lucky, but none of the toilets leaked and they were all really straight forward to assemble and install. This is the extent of my experience with them. I only installed them, but didn't have any user experience... Yet.

In late 2005, I purchased my first house. It was a 1974-era, Brady Bunch-style home with Brady-era counters, floors, and toilets. They were really old and really ready for replacement. So, remembering my friend's research from a few years back, I did my own research. I eventually landed on ANSI's Web site and learned my friend was correct... Very correct, in fact! The Toto Drake, for the money, was one of the best toilets in its class. You know, the ANSI actually fills condoms with soy and rice filler and tests these toilets by flushing condom sausages until they clog. The Toto Drake had one of the best flush records.

That was good enough for me... I was so sick of double flushing, I was ready to pay whatever it took (within reason) to flush once and be done with my daily business.

So I looked at the Drake and learned it comes in a regular or SanaGloss finish, which is a micro-fine surface that resists mineral and debris buildup. I called my friend and talked to his wife about what they thought of the SanaGloss finish (I know my friend paid extra for this upgrade). They love it! I mean, I've never seen a couple actually *excited* to talk about their toilet! She said the SanaGloss finish reduced their cleanings by half as much. She also strongly suggested purchasing the SoftClose seat, which slowly drops the seat and lid so you don't experience the 4am SLAM because you let go too soon.

I was sold... I ordered one SanaGloss Drake with the SoftClose seat and eagerly waited for it to arrive. When it did, my friend and his wife were there for our "Toto party." Within an hour it was in and we cracked a magnum of wine and celebrated with a massive meal to help christen the install of the new Toto toilet! Well, the christening actually occurred after the meal was digested, the following day. <grin>

This was nearly five years ago and I have almost a half a decade of experience behind this review. I have never had to plunge this toilet... EVER! That's not to say you won't... You *can* clog it, but under normal usage, you should never expect a clog or double-flush. Also, the SanaGloss finish works as advertised. Routine cleanings are reduced primarily to the rim and outer sides of the toilet. I don't have to clean the inside every time I clean the toilet. But be forewarned DO NOT CLEAN THIS SURFACE WITH AN ABRASIVE CLEANER. It will scratch! Lastly, the SoftClose seat is wonderful! I've found though that once in a while I let go of other seats too early, forgetting that not every toilet has a SoftClose seat. I'd highly recommend purchasing this upgrade with your toilet.

For those who are considering the Toto Soirée toilet, I would never tell you not to purchase it, but do want to share one last thing.

Because of my experience, another close friend of mine spent a lot of time deliberating over whether to buy the Drake or the Soirée. The Soirée is a more expensive toilet that Toto offers in an ADA style that he wanted. He purchased the Soirée and I think he regrets it to some extent. When he flushes it, he has to hold the handle down two to three seconds to ensure a solid flush. I purchased a space-saver Toto toilet for my small, spare bathroom and it requires the same hold-down-the-handle flush. The Toto Drake doesn't require holding the handle down for a few seconds. It has a powerful "G-Max" flushing system that only requires a quick push of the handle to activate.

So if you're trying to decide which toilet to buy, you have me and my two friends here to tell you, you're looking at an excellent toilet for the money! If you buy it, throw your own Toto party, eat hearty, and know the next day your happy engorgement won't result in a double flush! :-)
46 of 46 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Best Value in a 1.6gpf toilet July 22 2012
By NY Lawyer - Published on Amazon.com
Verified Purchase
This is a great toilet! We bought it from Amazon and used it to replace a much-more-expensive but horrible-flushing Kohler toilet (very pretty) that we grew to plunge and hate so much we ripped it out and I installed this toilet myself. As others have said, it has a great flush, it is quiet, its manufacturer has the lowest defect rate in the business, and it uses simple operating parts that are easy to service and readily-available locally or through Amazon. The factory authorized replacement parts for this toilet are made in the USA by Korky, who makes many of the OEM fill valves and flappers for Toto. (This toilet uses the Red Korky "Fits Toto" flapper and the blue "Fits TOTO" Korky 528T fill valve. That "T" in the model is important, because the regular 528 won't refill the bowl sufficiently; you can also use the adjustable-refill 528MP.)

A TIP: If you have an issue with the fill valve after a few years, don't replace it, try servicing it first. If you have the type b fill valve, its manufacturer makes a servicing video for the valve; type in korky service on you tube and the video should come up.

There are some quick videos of this very toilet flushing (nothing gross). Just flushing water, flushing clean paper, and a view inside the tank while flushing. Just search on Drake CST744s on you tube and these should be the first 3 that come up. There are some weird noises on the video; ignore them because its just my crummy cell-phone camera microphone distorting the sound of running water.

These toilets basically go: slurp, gurgle, gurgle, gurgle, then, a running-water sound while refilling, then just stop filling. Nothing that's going to wake your mate. We love this toilet because it really did let us toss the plunger, and we know it will be installed in this house for decades to come.

One other note: If you live in a jurisdiction where you get a rebate for a 1.28gpf "Watersense" toilet, there is a CST744E version of this toilet that qualifies. The bowl is the same. The china tank is the same; it just has slightly-different guts inside. (Green-colored valve that has a slightly-lower refill ratio so less water is wasted down the bowl during refill and flapper that looks the same but closes slightly-faster.) Toto just tweaked this thing so it would perform the same but only use 1.28gpf, and saved most of the water on the refill, not in the flush. People who have both have reported they flush the same. Because it's the same toilet, if you don't like the 1.28 flush, you can have as a backup plan to swap the fill valve for the Blue Korky valve and swap the flapper for the Red Fits Toto flapper and you will have yourself a 1.6gpf Drake. But everyone I know or have read who had that backup plan was totally happy with the 1.28gpf EcoDrake (not to be confused with the more-expensive Drake II, which is a totally-different design). On the other hand, if you're not in a drought jurisdiction, or don't care about the water savings, then just get this one.
49 of 50 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars AWESOME Toilet! Very fast and powerful flush Sept. 25 2011
By Jeff K - Published on Amazon.com
DEC 3 UPDATE. A few months ago I replaced the main floor toilet with this. Even with no venting at all, this toilet has astonishing flush power. Again - this in a bathroom with NO venting. The toilet is so powerful that, at the end of the flush, it needed to pull "some air" from the pipes. Since there was no other proper vent, the air was pulled through the traps of the sink and shower. I installed an air admittance valve under the sink at that problem was solved. No more gurgling.

ORIGINAL REVIEW:
Ok so I'm an engineer by trade and always do my research. I actually bought this from another Internet source that has much better pricing than Amazon (it doesn't happen often though and we usually buy through the big A). But I wanted to share our experiences.

We remodeled our master bath recently. As part of this we certainly needed a new toilet as the old one, while functional, was maroon (yeah ... bad I know). I considered the Drake II for the sanigloss finish but it seemed like it was only available in the higher format and my girlfriend is short so this just wouldn't have been as comfortable for her. The Drake is available in the Drake and Drake II and there are differences. Also there are only so many options here through Amazon - other sites have more options.

The remodeled master bath has amazing gorgous natural stone travertine tiles on the floor and throughout the shower.The last thing we wanted was a toilet that was overly bright, so that the tiles took center stage. So we went with Toto's Colonial White, rather than Cotton White. It's perfect. It is still white just not glaringly so. Other people have written that Colonial White was like a "white with a touch of grey added in". And we feel this is accurate and also useful as we went with a light grey for the walls. Bear in mind the Toilet doesn't look "light grey" - it's just a nice muted white and doesn't scream, "Hey Look at ME ... I'm a Toilet".

We decided to go with the Drake rather than Drake II, because it has a high gram capacity and I wanted the best possible gravity system available for this remodel. The bathroom is very unique as it is a LONG horizontal run from the sewer main. Also the only venting that I was able to add was a 3" run from a Y just under the toilet to a nearby air admittance valve. The home is historic so it would be near impossible or quite expensive to add a proper outside vent. So the best I was about to do was add that air admittance valve and hope for the best. The old toilet seemed to work well enough with NO venting (unless one counts a crack in the old cast iron pipe as venting ...). Ok so at least the new one would have SOME kinda venting ... :-)

Also the piping itself is unique. It first goes one way down the length of the bathroom, about 6', then curves around 180 degrees to run about 15' back to a 90 where it FINALLY goes out and connects to the horizontal main to the outside. I redid all the lines under the master bath from scratch, replacing ancient cast iron with 4" PVC (yeah I know I could use 3" but I wanted overkill). I also used a mix of 22.5 and 45 couplings to minimize the turns so the water slug would have the smoothest possible path, and double-checked the slight drop in level all the way through. Anyway, with all these considerations, I wanted a monster toilet that could handle it's normal job and really blast that water slug down that twisty curvy exit path.

We have now had the Drake for a month of regular use and are VERY pleased with it. There is a slight gurgling at the end of the flush. I expected that to be from the less-than-optimal venting that i could provide. Apparently, this seems to be somewhat common to this unit? The majority of the time, we just use the "quick flush" instead of the "full flush option", even when pushing out a deuce, and ... WAM! Everything disappears faster than we would really believe. I have to admit that I have flushed it a few times just for the fun of it. I'm super impressed by the speed and force of the flush.

A Plunger? We still own it but can't imagine ever needing it again, at least not in that bathroom. We have used the brush a bit here and there but not too much really.

A few years ago I had to replace a toilet upstairs in one of my rental units. At the time, it seemed like a good idea to try out the American Standard Cadet 3, based on the info at one of the big box stores. I didn't do my usual thorough research for that one but it just didn't seem overly necessary since that toilet is a mere 3 feet from the main vertical sewer stack that emtpies directly down into the horizontal main 2 floors below. This vertical pipe is also fully vented to the roof just above that unit.

Ok! So now I can compare the performance of a Drake, with a HUGE horizontal run and vented merely by an air admittance valve - to a Cadet 3 with a TINY run and MASSIVELY vented. My gosh, there is just no comparison. The flush of the Drake is VASTLY more forceful and quick. Last night I examined part of the horizontal main where I added a cleanout valve. And ... it's all nice and clean. As I had hoped and tried my best to plan for, all the water slugs have actually made it all the way from the Drake down some 25' of piping that doesn't even include the final 15-20' ... all the way to the sewer main. Sweet!

Today, I just placed an order for our second Drake, same color and model for our main floor bathroom. The toilet in that bathroom is TERRIBLE, always has been, and isn't vented AT ALL. It has trouble just trying to flush water. Well we got lucky and a house guest this past weekend tripped and cracked that toilet - how AWESOME. So, now we HAD TO replace it instead of merely wanting to. Eventually, we'll rip that bathroom out entirely and move it to the rear of the house (and install venting) but soon enough we'll be able to know how well the Drake performs with no venting whatsoever in the current main bath.

UPDATE: DEC 22
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Both Toto Drakes are working great. I installed an air admittance valve for the main floor one. The toilet worked very well without it - but it was so powerful that it was pulling air through the shower and sink traps. Adding an AAV under the bathroom sink fixed that. Now we have 4 months straight without touching the plunger once. The water bills are lower too and that's always nice.
60 of 64 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Never plunge, never double flush March 24 2012
By Some Guy in Wisconsin - Published on Amazon.com
I've had one of these for about 6 years. Unlike other older toilets in the house, it has never needed a plunger or a double flush. When it comes time to replace the flapper, you should look for the "2021BP G-Max Flapper For TOTO Toilet Repairs".

When trying to decide which white is right, consider the other fixtures in your bathroom. American Standard's white is closest to Colonial White and Kohler's white is closest to Cotton White.
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