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  • Hardcover: 304 pages
  • Publisher: Wiley (March 22 1993)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0471592242
  • ISBN-13: 978-0471592242
  • Product Dimensions: 16.1 x 2.6 x 23.6 cm
  • Shipping Weight: 499 g
  • Average Customer Review: 4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (146 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #125,956 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
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Soviet-born author and practicing psychiatrist Elder (director, Financial Trading Seminars, Inc.) shares his learning over the years as a professional trader and expert in technical analysis and his principle of understanding the three Ms (Mind, Method, Money), which will strengthen the discipline required to be successful in trading. He explores crucial factors in the markets that most experts overlook, including time, volume, and open interest, and describes little-known indicators to track them profitably. In addition, he covers many of the more technical approaches to investing in futures, such as factoring in the meaning from the Elliott Wave, oscillators, moving averages, Market Logic, and point-and-figure charting. His unique viewpoints in this overly saturated genre explain his particular view that most traders sabotage themselves, while offering tips for others to avoid doing the same. The narration by Richard Davidson soundly guides the listener through this highly specialized work that, although first published seven years ago, remains recommended for university libraries supporting a finance and business curriculum.DDale Farris, Groves, TX
Copyright 2001 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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".... should be compulsory reading. He debunks the myths and brutally focuses on the nitty-gritty of how to survive and prosper in an extremely tough environment." -- Sunday Business 12/09/99

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10 of 10 people found the following review helpful By A. Petrotchenkov on Oct. 17 2002
Format: Hardcover
Dr. Elder is a practicing psychiatrist. He is Russian origin and today he is well-known in Russia after his Moscow course of lectures on short-term investment in 1996. This book is translated into Russian and was published twice in Moscow ...
The first half of the book is pure psychology. The stock market in fact is a reflection of the human psychology. As the author points out, so many people who are educated think that because they are "school smart" that they must be able to master the financial markets just as well. It's the psychology and the mentality that goes into it. The author likens a typical losing trader (in other words, most traders!) to an alcoholic in denial. Traders are addicted to losing money. They get such a thrill from trading that they don't care if they win or lose.
The second half (Trading for a Living) is the core of the book. It is various trading strategies and technical information. If you're an experienced trader, you'll recognize most of it. The rule is simple: "buy low, sell high" or "short high, cover low". I think the author did an excellent job of covering a wide variety of strategies and trading tools. If you are new to trading, it may confuse the daylights out of you.
This book is a must have for anyone venturing into online trading. Dr. Elder lays out the three essentials of becoming a successful trader: Mind, Method and Money Management.
1. Mind: The psychological aspect of trading. Tells you to observe your own emotions as you trade.

2. Method: Technical analysis. Almost every major indicator is discussed here.

3. Money Management: Gives you some tips on how much to risk.
I have found a lot more detail in this book than in any other I've read so far. It is very enlightning. I give the book five stars.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful By Marc Alex Belanger on Jan. 6 2004
Format: Hardcover
I strongly disagree with the guy who wrote a comment "Worthless garbage, January 2, 2004". This guy sounds like a seriously frustrated puppy. I've been breaking my teeth at this game for 9 months now. All own my own, without outside help.Not easy. I read about 25 books on the topic. I've read this particular book three times. Once before trading, once during the first few months, and again recently. Only recently did I "wake up", and finaly payed attention to Elder's method and tools. Trust me, it ain't garbage, far from it. Use his stuff as building blocks to fit your own method, understand the logic behind the tools. It's true nothing beats experience, but why lose time re-inventing the wheel? This book is for beginner and intermediate level. DOWNSIDE: I rembember paying around 40U$ for the book about 2 years ago. but I recommend it if you are really serious about intelligent trading (most people are looking for a quick & easy way to act out their gambling urges). I didn't need the Study Guide, which I also bought. I traded in real life, then re-read the book as I hit a brick wall (read: lost serious amounts of money). And by the way, there is no such thing as psychology "babbling". The frustated guy just didn't get it. Technical trading involves evaluating psychological shifts in mass consensus. Then the game is all about YOU, whether you want to admit it or not. Blaming the others, the market, God, etc will only destroy your trading account. As in real life, don't deny the truth, just deal with it. Hope this helps...
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful By A Customer on Oct. 9 2003
Format: Hardcover
Elder runs trading camps and has a real cult of personality so allot reviews are based on him and not necessarily this book. The book is really a re-hashing of simple trend trading and really shows it's age. If you must persist with Elder I'd get Come Into My Trading Room which has some interesting ideas, the stop loss worksheet etc. but really Elder is someone you probably won't get much out of unless you are a long term trader (> 13 weeks) or do options as too much of his stuff just doesn't make it for day trading or swing trading...for daytrading get the Bernstein books, he's got some good ideas but he's rather sloppy in execution still his systems are variations on some solid stuff.
For swing trading, the old standby, with allot caveat, is Edwards & Magee. Elder really doesn't have enough in him to warrant more than glimpsing at hjs stuff.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful By "kltr" on June 27 2004
Format: Hardcover
Alexander Elder is first and foremost a psychiatrist, and it shows when he explains his insights into individual and mass psychology in the first two chapters of the book.
These two chapters are the real gold in the book; i have not read a more succinct and hard-hitting explanation of the behavior of individuals and crowds, and these two chapters are the ones you want to read.
The rest of the book is devoted to the basics of technical analysis. There is a lot of stuff out there on technical analysis so the stuff in Elder's book is likely to be somewhat outdated.
Nevertheless, read this book for the part on the psychology. This is fundamental and basic for any investor or trader, and is crucial to your success in the markets.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful By ProfitWaves com on Sept. 28 2003
Format: Hardcover
The dichotomy of trading is that it appears deceptively easy when in fact it is painstakingly difficult to get off to a successful start. Many trading books take advantage of this misperception and neglect to mention the difficulties and oversimplify or even misrepresent the necessary basics, much like the shop keepers, the saloon owners, and other merchants did to prospective gold seekers during the California gold rush.
Dr. Elder is one of the few honest merchants in this field who explores the dark side of trading up front. In fact the first impression this book will make on a new trader is how difficult it is going to be to consistently make money in the market through short term trading. But alas, most good things in life come with a bit of difficulty and those who are willing to pay the price by studying, even mastering the basics, will in the end be rewarded with a career that offers many perks.
This book should be considered the text for Trading 101 as it explains in a simple way the basics necessary to succeed. As another reviewer has mentioned it is unnecessary to strain yourself by learning charting techniques reading 400+ pages of Murphy's "Technical Analysis of the Futures Markets." If you are willing to master the material in Elder's book, it is arguable that, along with a good candlestick-charting book, you will have sufficiently mastered the charting techniques necessary to find a good degree of success in finding a good trade to enter. It is doubtful that if you are new to charting that you will ever look at a stock chart the same after reading this book.
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