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Excellent with a reservation.,
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This review is from: What Saint Paul Really Said: Was Paul of Tarsus the Real Founder of Christianity? (Paperback)
The study of the excellent 2 volumes of "Christian Origins and the Qustion of God" have given me an unbiased insight in the Jewishness of Jesus and the purpose of his mission. NTWright is a master in being able to show Jesus untouched by "Christian theology" and making him so better acceptable for non-Christians. "What Saint Paul really said" did not leave me with the same satisfaction. NTW gives again clear interpretation of many details in Paul's writings. Revealing to me was his effort in explaining what he sees as the real meaning of 'justification'. There are however places where I ask myself if he did not look at certain of Paul's concepts through his "Christian spectacles". F.ex. "The closer we get to his own terms , the more we discover that his view of God is (we have either to use the word or find a direct equivalent) trinitarian". (p.73) And: "that the God of Israel was now revealed in and as (!) the crucified and risen Jesus of Nazareth" (p.135). Why do statements like these make me feel less satisfied? The Jesus I find in this work is so different again from the Jesus in the two master volumes. With me questions like these linger: Did Paul come up with his own understanding of Jesus of Nazareth? Were the 'revelations' a source for this new and personal understanding? Or can Paul be understood in such a way that his Jesus can be acceptable for Jews and Christians who have trouble with a 'trinitarian' God?
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Both pastoral and subversive,
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This review is from: What Saint Paul Really Said: Was Paul of Tarsus the Real Founder of Christianity? (Paperback)
Reading this book was an Ah-ha! Experience for me. N.T. Wright begins by providing an overview of 20th century Pauline scholarship; he ends by saying Paul's Gospel is not simply a new way of being religious - it is the foundation of a new community rooted in the cross that can create a new humanity. Paul's writings have been the source of individualistic pieties. Wright sees in them a call to social transformation.Wright manages to bridge the divide between scholarship and the ordinary educated Christian in the pew. He has built on the work of leading scholars such as Ed Sanders and James Dunn. While he is a scholar himself, his intent here is both pastoral and subversive. At the core of Wright's argument is his analysis of justification. This part of the book is a bit of a slog. Justification, he maintains, is not about "a detached system of salvation," but rather a declaration that someone has gained admittance to the covenant community. Wright does not eliminate the centuries-old faith-vs-works controversy, but he does put it in a wider perspective. Wright has written a fine set of commentaries on the Pauline letters - Paul For Everyone. What Saint Paul Really Says is the hermeneutical key as it were to the fullest understanding of those simpler books. Wright appears to have attracted a coterie of devout followers of his writings. After reading this book, I understand why. You can now count me among their number.
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Echoes through the centuries,
By FrKurt Messick "FrKurt Messick" (Bloomington, IN USA) - See all my reviews (TOP 50 REVIEWER) (HALL OF FAME)
This review is from: What Saint Paul Really Said: Was Paul of Tarsus the Real Founder of Christianity? (Paperback)
Taking a note from the Barth/Brunner debate a century ago, N.T. Wright has challenged A.N. Wilson's assertion in another book to formulate this book (although the Wright/Wilson controversy will unlikely produce the same long-lasting theological impact that Barth/Brunner did). Still it is an interesting dialogue spanning different books and articles now. Wilson made the historical assertion that Paul was the real founder of Christianity. There are many historians and biblical scholars who would agree with Wilson, in whole or in part. Certainly the Christianity that we have today is influenced by the writings of Paul. However, is our current interpretation of Paul's writing in accord with what he would have wanted? With regard to that idea, Wright states that 'His [Paul's] fate in this century has been not unlike his fate in his own day. Nobody who wants to think about Christianity can ignore him; but they can, and do, abuse him, misunderstand him, impose their own categories on him, come to him with the wrong questions and wonder why he doesn't give a clear answer, and shamelessly borrow material from him to fit into other schemes of which he would not have approved.' Wright highlights the riot in Ephesus of showing that, with regard to Paul, there is often a lot of sound and fury, but we're not always sure what it signifies. Wright traces the different ways in which major thinkers of the twentieth century have portrayed Paul - Schweitzer, Bultmann, Davies, Kasemann, and Sanders primarily. He also develops the framework of the key questions to be asked - these deal with history, theology, exegesis and practical application. Saul/Paul considered himself a Pharisee, but even this group wasn't the monolithic community as it is often portrayed (any more than saying someone is a Protestant Christian can give you much more than the broadest of categorial information). Wright argues that Paul is a messianic believer who sees in Jesus a four-fold 'gospel', not one that is salvific in the modern Christian of 'how one gets saved' as an individual task, but rather as communal call that recognises Jesus (particularly his death on the cross and resurrection) is the long-awaited Messiah of Israel and the true king of the world. Paul's identification of Jesus with God was, for Paul, good news for Jews and Gentiles both. For Paul, according to Wright, 'the "gospel" creates the church; "justification" defines it.' By justification, Wright says this is 'the doctrine which declares that whoever believes that gospel, and wherever or whenever they believe it, those people are truly members of his family, no matter where they came from, what colour their skin may be, whatever else might distinguish them from each other.' Paul takes the idea of covenant seriously, bringing about community, which is the locus of the church, and the arena for justification. However, this is not the final end - Wright quotes Richard Hooker here, who stated, 'One is not justified by faith by believing in justification by faith.' Wright then returns to the claim against Wilson that Paul was not the 'founder' of Christianity - 'Jesus believed it was his vocation to bring Israel's history to its climax. Paul believed that Jesus had succeeded in that aim.' Jesus was the first and focal point, and Paul was acting in accordance with what that experience and revelation had to say, according to Wright. Wright is a careful scholar, skilled in the tools of modern scholarship but distrustful of certain enterprises such as some of the Jesus Seminar applications, and certainly not in the post-modern camp of deconstruction of all metanarratives and paradigms for meaning and understanding. Indeed, Wright argues that what Paul has to offer is a counter to this kind of deconstructionist nihilism. This is a worthy text in the ongoing development of biblical scholarship.
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