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  • Paperback: 224 pages
  • Publisher: Orion Publishing Group (Feb. 1 2012)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0297867709
  • ISBN-13: 978-0297867708
  • Product Dimensions: 23.2 x 15.2 x 2.2 cm
  • Shipping Weight: 299 g
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful By John Kwok TOP 500 REVIEWER on Feb. 7 2012
Format: Hardcover
Nathan Englander is one of our great young American writers of fiction and his latest short story collection, "What We Talk About When We Talk About Anne Frank", is one of the finest I have read lately, replete with ample instances of humor and tragedy. Although Englander's stories deal with the vicissitudes of fortune experienced by Jews in America and Israel, his stories are quite insightful explorations of human character whose universal themes of love, remorse and revenge should appeal to those ignorant of Jewish culture and traditions. The title story is a literary homage to one of Raymond Carver's best stories, recounting how two long-lost friends from childhood compare and contrast their lives one afternoon, culminating in the sharing of a pot joint between themselves and their husbands; it's a most humorous fictional exploration of two rather divergent segments of Jewish society and culture. "Sister Hills" is a most vivid evocation of the trials and tribulations faced by some Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank, spanning four decades in a few pages. Most of the other stories touch on various aspects of Jewish life in the United States, though the final story in the collection, "Free Fruit for Young Widows", is a rather harrowing exploration of the emotionally wrecked soul of one Holocaust survivor still haunted by the demons of his youth despite enjoying years of relative tranquility in Israel. "Peep Show", one of the middle stories in this collection, is the one most unlike the others, a fantasy-inspired romp about an older Jewish man's experience in a Times Square peep show parlor that's uncannily reminiscent of some of noted American science fiction and fantasy writer Michael Swanwick's fantasy tales in the latter's "The Dog Said Bow Wow" short story collection. Without question, Englander's second story collection is a most memorable set of tales emphasizing his high literary art.
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42 of 47 people found the following review helpful
To Extremes Jan. 2 2012
By Roger Brunyate - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Hardcover Vine Customer Review of Free Product
The allusion to Raymond Carver's "What We Talk About When We Talk About Love" in the title piece is a little stretched, but it is a terrific story just the same. The similarity is mainly the situation of a alcohol-fueled conversation between two married couples that reveal some uncomfortable truths. Englander does not go for Carver's compact elegance, but his truths would strike home under any title. The story explores the position of Jews in the modern world. Debbie and Lauren were best friends in yeshiva school, but have taken different directions. Debbie has married a secular Jew, relaxed her observance, and now keeps touch with her heritage mainly through an obsessive interest in the Holocaust. Lauren has become ultra-orthodox, changed her name to Shoshana, and moved with her husband Yerucham (formerly Mark) to Israel, where she has borne ten children, all girls. For Yerucham, the real Holocaust is not what happened in the past, but the dilution occurring now as Jew marries Gentile.

The extremes possible in Jewish belief are shown even more strongly in the second story, "Sister Hills," my favorite of the collection. Set in a pioneering settlement in Samaria over the course of four decades (1973, 1987, 2000, and 2011), it represents both the heroism of the settler movement and the stubbornness that, rather than give up on a principle, would persist with a situation in which nobody wins. Similar issues are raised by the next story, "How We Avenged the Blums," about a group of suburban boys getting their own back on an anti-Semitic bully, only to have to confront the violence they have unleashed in themselves. But it is a looser story that leads to a distinct drop in tension in the middle of the book, with the phantasmagorical "Peep Show," about the guilt felt by a Jewish apostate when he indulges in a momentary taste for porn, and "Everything I Know About My Family on My Mother's Side," a sprawling though often touching memoir.

But Englander picks up again with two of the final stories: "Camp Sundown," a black tragicomedy about vengeance in a lakeside camp for retirees in the Berkshires, and "Free Fruit for Young Widows," which takes us back to Israel and beyond that to a Holocaust survival story which raises moral issues that will not easily be set aside. Englander fills his stories with fierce characters who speak fractured English laced with untranslated phrases of Yiddish, and who harbor convictions hard as basalt. They are uncomfortable people to meet, but their extremes are compelling. Someone in almost every story will transgress some norm of accepted behavior, posing the intense moral and political question of what is justifiable by history or by belief. I have not seen such writing since Etgar Keret's GAZA BLUES; if only Englander could avoid his occasional tendency to dilute it.
37 of 47 people found the following review helpful
Praise Inflation March 15 2012
By Eric Maroney - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Hardcover
Nathan Englander is reckoned a great writer now, and it shows in the constellation of literary stars who have endorsed this book of short stories with a blurb. Jonathan Franzen calls this work a "fine-grained comedy and large scale-tragedy." Jonathan Safran Foer, Englander's friend, says the work "overflows with revelations and gems." Michael Cabon sums it all up when he calls this collection "Certifiable masterpieces of contemporary short art." Other no less brazen blurbs are provided by Jonathan Letham and Gary Shetyngart, completing the Ponzi pyramid of admiration.

Unfortunately, this collection does not nearly meet up to his hyperbole of acclaim. These stories as a whole are weak. It would be hoped, in a of collection eight stories, there would one or two which could redeem the collection, but in this case it is not so. Englander misses the mark again and again, producing a collection that can be called embarrassing on the one end and a failure on the other.

What goes wrong? First, there is language. Englander's previous work had daring sentences, interesting syntax, and bold juxtapositions of words. These stories are flat and dry on the level of language. Englander is not doing anything real or new with his words. He is just producing them with no sense of the poetry of language. Second is character development. Almost to a story, Englander fails to provide a living, breathing portrait of a person. His characters dance around the fringes of believability, making bad jokes and common observations about life that do nothing to enliven the reader. By and large they are stereotypes, not characters. Finally, the structure of the stories fall well short of being masterpieces of short art. There is no sense, in reading them, that some great mystery is being unfolded. The stories end without much fanfare; the themes he develops in them are treated and then dismissed without any deep import. Englander wants to say profound things about the human and the Jewish condition, but these stories are terrible vehicles for doing so. The profound just becomes silly.

Nathan Englander has proven himself to be a great writer. This collection, however, gives no evidence of this.
19 of 24 people found the following review helpful
Thought Provoking Stories Jan. 14 2012
By A. Silverstone - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Hardcover Vine Customer Review of Free Product
This collection of 8 short stories by acclaimed Jewish-American author Nathan Englander is sure to make you think. They revolve around Jewish or Israeli themes, but what unites these stories is always an O'Henry-like twist at the end coming from where least you expect. The first, eponymous story involves a religious American couple from Israel visiting their secularized friends in Florida. At first, what seems to be a clash of cultures evolves into the definition of love. One of the most amusing stories in the book is Camp Sundown. The head of a camp that has a youth section and an elder hostel is going slowly insane because a group of seniors suspect one of their bridge-playing members of being a former concentration camp guard. Okay, writing that description does not sound like a good basis for humor, but then that is why Englander is the author, and I, a reader. In another story, Peep Show, another secularized Jew finds his mind playing tricks on him when he goes to a Times Square, of course, peep show, and the women start morphing into rabbis and then worse.
Englander has his characters struggle with identity, morals, and sometimes just making it through the day intact. His stories do not come to a conclusion as much as just end, leaving the reader to contemplate what does it all mean, and what does this say about my life. Englander continues to be a master story teller, who leads us down roads we didn't know existed and weren't sure we wanted to follow.
10 of 13 people found the following review helpful
"How Much Richer Could a Writing Life Be Than Finding, Even For One Night, One True Reader?" Dec 21 2011
By H. F. Corbin - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Hardcover Vine Customer Review of Free Product
Pulitzer-prize-winning author Edward P. Jones has said that in a good short story that "the world, for even one character, has shifted, whether to a large or tiny degree." All the eight stories included in Nathan Englander's fine collection WHAT WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ANNE FRANK-- are we to think about Raymond Carver from this title?-- indeed live up to that standard. Several of the endings of the stories also take the reader by surprise as well. The characters are Jewish; the stories are mostly set in the U. S. and Israel and may go back several decades up to the present. Mr. Englander writes about anti-Semitism, the conflict between generations, the letter of the law versus natural law, the conflicts between secular Jews and observant Jews, revenge, justice, the importance of writing. Moral ambiquities abound. And like all good writers, the author asks many more questions than he answers.

While all eight stories are superb, four of them stand out. In the title story Mark and Lauren who have "turned Hasidic" and are now called Yerucham and Shoshana and living in Israel visit old friends Mike and Debbie in South Florida. After an evening of conversation that goes in several directions and with the help of some industrial strength pot they play a serious game. The ending is worthy of James Joyce's brilliant short story "The Dead" and just as surprising. In the very moving "Everything I Know About My Family on My Mother's Side" the narrator, whose name is Nathan, delves into his family's history and discovers long kept family secrets. Surely this story will resonate with practically every reader. Almost every friend of mine and I as well have uncovered-- often by accident-- family skeletons years after the occurrence. In "Camp Sundown" two characters at a summer camp for the elderly Agnes Brown and Arnie Levine are convinced that another character Doley Falk is a Nazi and drive the young director Josh half crazy with their insistence that he take some sort of action. The ending will blow you away. Then "The Reader" is a beautifully crafted story about a character only named the "Author," who once sold a lot of books and gave readings to filled rooms but is now down to one solitary fan who follows him to every empty bookstore on his ill-fated tour and insists that he read for him alone. And even though Kafka had nothing published while he lived and Emily Dickinson had only a few poems, surely they are the exception. Most writers would like to be read: "Driving in darkness toward the next distant city, Author knows that what he'd just experienced was a gift. Really, how much richer could a writing life be than finding, even for one night one true reader?"

Mr. Englander's characters are as alive as members of your own family. Although these stories are certainly serious, the writer has a great gift of humor. For instance, when a young boy urinates off the roof of a house in Russia, he accidentally hits a rabbi's hat. He is then brought before "the anointed party" and punished. Another character's hip replacement is called a "replacement part." Finally Mr. Englander describes a phenomenon that we all have experienced but I have never seen a writer put in words before: "every house of mourning for a moment turns happy."

These brilliant stories are reminders that the short story is very much alive.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
One of 2 books I have ever read and returned March 5 2014
By B. Stanley - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Kindle Edition Verified Purchase
I hated this book. The witty, clever story in the sample ended in the first chapter and the book descended into completely unorganized stories that jumped around. Each was worse than the last. I kept hoping the book would find a way to redeem itself if I kept reading--it did not.
The middle section is a collection of 60+ numbered paragraphs that jump from random point to random point in an attempt to tell a story. This is not a style choice as far as I'm concerned. It is sloppy, lazy writing. If you publish a book and want me to pay for it, you need to put time and energy into developing your story--not list a bunch of numbered points and be finished.
I disliked this book so much, it's one of only 2 books I have returned in my life after reading. I'm not usually a book returner.

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