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Thrones, Dominations (Hardcover)

by Dorothy L Sayers (Author)
3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (50 customer reviews)

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Asked by her new husband, the gentleman detective Lord Peter Wimsey, why she is having trouble writing her latest mystery novel, Harriet Vane explains, "When I needed the money, it justified itself. It was a job of work, and I did it as well as I could, and that was that. But now, you see, it has no necessity except itself. And, of course, it's hard; it's always been hard, and it's getting harder. So when I'm stuck I think, this isn't my livelihood, and it isn't great art, it's only detective stories. You read them and write them for fun." Is this a clue to the mystery of why Dorothy L. Sayers put aside her 13th full-length Lord Peter novel in 1938 and never finished it? She had made lots of money, and was much more interested in translating Dante and writing about religion. Or is it another excellent novelist, Jill Paton Walsh, speculating--in a perfect imitation of Sayers's voice--on what might have happened? Walsh was invited by the estate of Sayers's illegitimate son, Anthony Fleming, to finish Thrones, Dominations. She has done a splendid job, certain to please Sayers loyalists on the "dorothyl" listserv as well as those new to the Wimsey canon. Lord Peter has been made much more human and interesting by marriage; Harriet is a wise and acerbic companion; and the story, about the murders of two beautiful young women involved with a theatrical producer, is full of twists and connivance. There's also a fascinating subplot involving the soon-to-abdicate King Edward VII and a country on the brink of World War II. Earlier Wimseys in paperback include The Five Red Herrings, Gaudy Night, Murder Must Advertise, and Unnatural Death. Books in print by Walsh include a mystery called A Piece of Justice and a novel, The Serpentine Cave. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.


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After Sayers married off Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane in Busman's Honeymoon (1937), she devoted herself to translating Dante's Divine Comedy. A few short stories later appeared, noting the arrival of three Wimsey sons, and there was a rumor that suggested Sayers had another Wimsey novel in the works. Forty years after Sayers's death, that book has been triumphantly completed by British novelist Walsh (a 1994 Booker Prize finalist for Knowledge of Angels), following the original outline. If it is true that Sayers wrote the beginning, Walsh has done her predecessor a great service. Once the cast and context are established through some long exposition, the pace picks up, particularly after theatrical producer Laurence Harwell, an acquaintance of the Wimseys, discovers his cherished wife Rosamund strangled. As the nation mourns the death of King George V, upper-class women purchase black wardrobes, some of which are augmented with stylish white collars, an element which later figures as a clue. Germany invades the Rhineland. Uncrowned, Edward VIII continues to socialize with Nazis and to rendezvous with Mrs. Simpson. Lord Peter is recruited to persuade Edward to accept his responsibilities, but abdication is inevitable. The mystery involves two cases of blackmail as well as a second murder. Despite a large cast of suspects, ranging from two inept felons to a society portrait painter, every lead seems to come to a dead end. Typical of Sayers's novels, the solution derives from coincidences and some awkward plot devices. But readers have always turned to her mysteries for other reasons, such as the way Peter and Harriet settle the tumult four months of marriage has visited upon them. Harriet uncomfortably accepts her position as Lady Peter, with money and servants, while maintaining her independent identity as a mystery writer. In fact, her discussion of a plot problem with Peter helps him break a suspect's alibi. Sayers fans will relish the cooperative sleuthing of Peter, Harriet and the self-effacing Bunter as Walsh deftly captures and subtley updates the spirit of the series, endowing the iconic characters with additional depth and complexity.
Copyright 1998 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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4.0 out of 5 stars Seamless?, April 9 2003
This review is from: Thrones, Dominations (Hardcover)
No, sorry, if you know Sayers well, you definitely know where Walsh starts off.
All the same it's a nice read, and the Sayers part is, as always, worth it.
:-)
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3.0 out of 5 stars not quite the real thing, April 25 2002
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In my mind, Dorothy Sayers is quite the best mystery writer ever. What sets her apart in my mind, is not just the intricate plot of a tightly woven detective stories - you can find plenty of that with Agatha Christie and Cornan Doyle also. The pleasure of reading Sayers comes from her sheer fortitude as a writer with unsurpassed erudition (I use this word as a complement in this case). Her penetrating analysis of the psychology of the main characters. Casually strawn references to Greek Mythologies, European history, and, of course, deliciously wonton quotations from classical writers and poets. This is what makes reading Sayers such a pleasure. (I follow most of her references, but am still searching the correct source of King Cophetua and Pandarus) I especially enjoyed Wimsey in the context of his pursuit of Vane in the four books Sayers herself wrote, with all of his (Sayers') finest display of the intellectual prowess. From this angle, Thrones and Dominations was a sad disappointment. But then again, I don't see how anyone without the turn of the century classical education and Sayers own intellect can duplicate the feat. Ms. Walsh's Wimsey and Vane have none of the sparkling intelligence or erudition. In fact, this "new" pair comes across only as a juvenile shadow of the original pair, almost vulgar at times.... Another minor irritation was Ms. Walsh's unrelenting effort to demonstrate to the readers that she did her "homework" by reading all of Sayers' works. There are quite a lot of tiresome verbatim quotes from previous Wimsey-Vane stories and references to the events that were described in previous stories. I would say Sayers herself would have never been so compulsively driven to prove the "continuity" of the authorship. I guess this in the same vein as in "Thou protestth too much!" As a detective story, the plot is good, and overall within the middle range of what Sayers herself would have accomplished.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent, Mar 25 2002
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I was amazed at all the awful reviews, because I LOVED this book. Dorothy Sayers is one of my all-time favorite authors and of course it would be impossible to write exactly like her. (I read her translation of Dante in college.) But this book does a great job -- the details are all there, the dry, witty humor is preserved, and I couldn't put it down. Lord Peter isn't exactly the same as in Sayers' mysteries, but he isn't exactly the same in each one of Sayers' mysteries, either. He develops, he changes, and now he's married but not boring. The writing is excellent and very true to form.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Zzzzz
Commits the unpardonable (and almost impossible) sin of making Peter Wimsey boring.
Published on Jan 31 2002 by Jonathan A. Turner

1.0 out of 5 stars Not the Sequel to Busman's Honeymoon
In Murder Must Advertise, Wimsey briefly portrays a charicature of himself as a cold, stiff, conceited, well-educated lord. Read more
Published on Oct 24 2001 by Nada O'Neal

3.0 out of 5 stars approach with caution
As you must have gathered from other reviews, this is an enjoyable book in the Lord Peter Whimsey tradition. Read more
Published on Aug 18 2001 by cairenth@hotmail.com

5.0 out of 5 stars Enjoy a mannered mystery à la 1930s; it's not Shakepeare!
Having read some, not all, of the singular Dorothy Sayers, and having marveled at the word craft of Jill Paton Walsh (The Emperor's Winding Sheet) I had a spasm of impulsive... Read more
Published on May 7 2001

5.0 out of 5 stars Enjoy a mannered mystery à la 1930s; it's not Shakepeare!
Having read some, not all, of the singular Dorothy Sayers, and having marveled at the word craft of Jill Paton Walsh (The Emperor's Winding Sheet) I had a spasm of impulsive... Read more
Published on May 7 2001

1.0 out of 5 stars This is not a good book
I have read Busman's Honeymoon and most of the other Sayers novels more times than I can remember. I love her style, her humor, her ability to entertain and her ability to use... Read more
Published on Oct 8 2000 by Gray

5.0 out of 5 stars I loved it!
I am a big fan of the Peter Wimsey books, but I guess I don't qualify as hard-core. I really loved this book. Read more
Published on Aug 13 2000 by bibliochick

5.0 out of 5 stars I really enjoyed this book, extremely well written.
Jill Paton Walsh has done an amazing, albeit thankless job in "Thrones, Dominations." The dialogue was beautiful, (especially the put-down that Harriet gives to Helen. Read more
Published on Jun 4 2000

2.0 out of 5 stars Good effort, but
As a fan of Sayers' Lord Peter books, I looked forward to reading Walsh's effort based on Sayers' notes. Read more
Published on Jan 24 2000

5.0 out of 5 stars Seamless Sayers
Years ago I realized my disappointment when I completed the mystery works of Dorothy Sayers. Luckily, Sayers' strengths were always observation and characterization. Read more
Published on Sep 3 1999

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