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5.0 out of 5 stars Turning the Numbers Back into People
This was a difficult read. Not for the writing but for the content. As a Canadian of Ukrainian descent, the Holodomor or murder by hunger, was a topic of incredible sensitivity and division within our community. Of course, Snyder's tremendous contribution to the examination of Stalin's and Hitler's terror covers more than the Ukrainian famine. He ingeniously casts a light...
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2.0 out of 5 stars Great beginning, then chapters of lost focus....
The promise of this book was an impartial, objective review of what actually happened in those terrible years. The ethnicities affected by the war, the suffering and the people who tried to survive it all.
The author does a great job of detailing the political motives of the Soviet starvation campaigns. As the depth of the book builds and as further and further...
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5.0 out of 5 stars Turning the Numbers Back into People,
The Bloodlands extends from central Poland to western Russia, through Ukraine, Belarus, and the Baltic States. Ukraine was the epicenter where the most lives were lost in WW2. Snyder points out that while Hitler's record was atrocious in war, Stalin's was in peacetime and collectively their actions are near unimaginable.
Snyder begins by examining the Ukrainian famine that began in 1933. It was prompted by a failed five year plan and the effects of collectivization. Stalin, loathe to take responsibility, blamed the peasants and "agitators". The author takes a logical view on the lives lost based on the available information and arrives at 3.3 million. This has always been a contentious issue with Ukrainians but Snyder states his assumptions objectively and this adds to his credibility.
Snyder then covers the deportation of Kulaks, the decimation of the Poles from two sides, Jewish persecution and The Holocaust, and economic and ethnic intentions and actions in the Bloodlands. In fact, if there is an explanation for the killing, Snyder roots it in agriculture. Stalin wanted to collectivize farmers; Hitler wanted to eliminate them so Germans could colonize the land.
The book's scope is overwhelming especially to those new to this period. And the first hand accounts are disturbing to say the least involving cannibalism, neighbor turning against neighbor, and the aggregate hardships faced by the inhabitants of the Bloodlands.
I read a review of the book by Istvan Deak, Seth Low Professor Emeritus at Colombia who provided this amazing illustration of the confusion, shifting alliances, borders, ideologies, and need to survive that defined the Bloodlands:
"It is not difficult, for example, to conjure the image of a young Ukrainian patriot in what used to be eastern Poland who, just before the outbreak of World War II, is drafted into the Polish army, but following the Soviet invasion of eastern Poland in September 1939 automatically becomes a Soviet citizen and is drafted into the Soviet army. Captured by the Germans in 1941 and confronted with the choice of starving to death in a POW camp or becoming a policeman in German service, he chooses the latter, and in the next few years he fights Soviet partisans and shoots defenseless Jews. In 1943 or 1944, he goes over to the partisans, as so many other Ukrainian policemen were doing. Soon, we find him in a Soviet uniform again, serving in a combat unit. He makes it across Central Europe, fighting against the Germans, but at one point he deserts, joining the countless other Red Army deserters who are indistinguishable from bandits, and who drift behind the combat units. Finally caught and accused of desertion, he ends up in the Gulag."
This book is tough to read but important for this point provided by the author, "The Nazi and Soviet regimes turned people into numbers. It is for us as humanists to turn the numbers back into people. If we cannot do that, then Hitler and Stalin have shaped not only our world but our humanity."
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5.0 out of 5 stars To kill on principle,
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5.0 out of 5 stars Authoritative, Depressing, Powerful,
While reading about thousands and millions of people "relocated," starved, tortured, murdered, and worse (yes, worse), we need to keep reminding ourselves that those numbers represent once-living men, women, and children who had every right and reason to live. One page after another divulges new tragedies, yet thankfully Snyder never lets go of the thread of humanity that cries out from all the brutality and mass killing.
We think that history gives us the tools to avoid repeating its folly, but the ever-present danger is that we do not learn. Snyder closes his comprehensive and compelling narrative by speaking about the people of the Bloodlands: "It is for us as scholars to seek these numbers and to put them into perspective. It is for us as humanists to turn the numbers back into people. If we cannot do that, then Hitler and Stalin have shaped not only our world, but our humanity." p. 408
4.0 out of 5 stars Gritty,
2.0 out of 5 stars Great beginning, then chapters of lost focus....,
This review is from: Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin (Paperback)The promise of this book was an impartial, objective review of what actually happened in those terrible years. The ethnicities affected by the war, the suffering and the people who tried to survive it all.
The author does a great job of detailing the political motives of the Soviet starvation campaigns. As the depth of the book builds and as further and further one is drawn into the depth of the despair it finally dawns on the reader that from about the mid-point of the volume the book becomes strangely Holocaust centric in it's point of view. And this really is my major objection to this otherwise terrific work.
My goal in reading this book was to understand the impact of the Nazi and Soviet policies on the nations of the Eastern Europe. Yet strangely enough the author at some point in the book actually defines the borders of 'bloodlands' as those which defined the geographical borders within which the Holocaust played out. Boy...that was NOT the point here...where are the details which pertain to non-Jewish impact of these terrible policies? Very little substance is presented to support the Polish impact, after all, let us not forget that WW2 started when the Nazi Germany and Stalinist Soviet Union attacked Poland.
If you are looking for an objective point of view unfortunately you need to keep on looking. On the other hand, if you want yet another in-depth study of Jewish suffering during WW2 this book might deliver.
5.0 out of 5 stars So you think you know the history of WW2?,
This review is from: Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin (Paperback)If you live in the west and think you understand the history of WWII, Bloodlands will shake you to the marrow. The horrors of what happened to ordinary people in Eastern and Central Europe caught between the two greatest mass murderers of our time are so overwhelming I had to put the book down from time to time to absorb and recover from what I just read. Fourteen million people, non-combatants, wiped from the earth by the political ambitions of Stalin and Hitler.
Snyder tallies these deaths over a period of twelve years - from 1933 to 1945 - but he widens the scope to include WWI up to 1953 when Stalin died. It's an historical undertaking that doesn't double our understanding of WWII, it triples, even quadruples, our knowledge. The years behind the Iron Curtain, where the majority of the deaths occurred, has obscured our knowledge but with the fall of the Soviet Empire, the information is now becoming available and the reality coming to light is beyond anything we ever imagined. It's not only the scale of death, but the cruelty with which it was undertaken that makes it difficult to comprehend. As Snyder points out, to measure these deaths only by numbers is a disservice to those who died. Each human being, a man, a woman, a child, died a personal death, the power of one, as they each lived an individual life.
I recommend this book as something that must be read by everyone who cares about human life and I foresee a day when it is required reading in high schools.
5.0 out of 5 stars Great look on history,
This review is from: Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin (Paperback)There are numerous reviews printed on this book that perfectly encapsulate what is inside. I highly recommend this read for history buffs and the average person in general.
5.0 out of 5 stars BLOODLANDS: EUROPE BETWEEN HITLER AND STALIN,
This review is from: Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin (Paperback)This is nightmarish reading. WW2 was bad enough in general. WW2 on the eastern front was a few magnitudes worse again. Both Hitler and Stalin committed genocide. We all know about concentration camps. At least some few survived to tell their stories. However, then there were the DEATH FACTORIES. Nobody survived them.
This is a massive book with all the details and statistics included, so many millions killed by Hitler and this many millions by Stalin. The Jews in eastern Europe were completely eliminated. However, all the others were badly decimated too, Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians and Russians.
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Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin by Timothy Snyder (Paperback - Oct. 2 2012)
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