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The Malazan Saga continues on...but with a struggle...3.5 Stars
This is the 8th book in Steven Erikson's 'Malazan Book of the Fallen" series.
Of all the books in the Malazan series, this is, without a doubt, my least favorite...I will explain
First, the pros;
Overall, this series is epic fantasy at its best; in fact 829 pages in this book alone. There is intrigue, magic, unexpected enemies and...
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Gotta agree with the 3 previous posts
Like the other reviewers here, I found this book quite difficult to get into. It does seem like Erikson has taken a different approach to writing this novel and it is an approach, quite frankly, that does not work. There are passages where Erikson squeezes in his views on religion, theology, economics, etc. but in an overly verbose and unenjoyable way. Interspersed in...
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The Malazan Saga continues on...but with a struggle...3.5 Stars, Oct. 15 2008
This is the 8th book in Steven Erikson's 'Malazan Book of the Fallen" series.
Of all the books in the Malazan series, this is, without a doubt, my least favorite...I will explain
First, the pros;
Overall, this series is epic fantasy at its best; in fact 829 pages in this book alone. There is intrigue, magic, unexpected enemies and friends and even some erotic moments; not to mention the usually backstabbing and clandestine plotting. In this book we are reacquainted with some old friends from previous tales, e.g. Cutter, Druiker, Karso Orlong (Toblakai warrior), Anomander Rake and last but not least, the ever loquacious, forever famished, mound of round, Kruppe.
Erikson's strength is his use of prose to describe people and their surrounding, all the while weaving a tale his characters come alive in; this latest installment is no exception. In fact, this may be the first in all the books that may be somewhat overwritten because of some of these perceived strengths. Which leads me into commenting on...
The cons;
1.)As with previous Erikson works, the book starts off by given brief glimpses of several different developing stories. The problem here, in my opinion, is that unlike previous books, most of these story lines do not really develop into something resembling a plot until well after the first 200+ pages.
2.)In addition to the slow development, the writing seems heavy and difficult to follow; I had to almost 'study' sections to try to figure out what Erikson had his characters doing and saying.
3.)I found I became 'weary' of trying to interpret the vague, unclear conversations and happenings that occurred through out most of the entire novel. Eventually I stopped trying to figure out the difficult passages and just concentrated on sections that I found easy to understand; I don't think I'd have finished the book otherwise.
4.)I never thought I'd ever hear myself saying this about an Erikson book, but I found myself somewhat bored by some of the dragged out, confusing descriptions and tales; almost to the point of skimming them.
5.)And last, I don't think I've ever been so happy to finally finish a book
Conclusion:
A Malazan tale that slogs through a slow beginning, middle and end. That is not to say there weren't some great moments in this book, because there were, many in fact; and this is the reason I rated the book as high as I did.
I seems to me that Erikson has 'stumbled' with this book; he knows what he's talking about, but I can't say the same for me. I wonder about other readers; I'm I the only one to notice this tendency towards 'unreadability'?
I hope Erikson gets back on track with his next installment; one more book like this and he may begin to lose some of his loyal followers. Difficult to rate this book, so I settled for a 3.5 and rounded it up to a 4.0 (rather than down to a 3.0 ) because I decided to give Erikson the benefit of the doubt...for this one.
Ray Nicholson
Addendum Nov 15/08
For anyone who wished to continue to satisfy their "Malazan" addiction, or for that matter, want to read a Malazan story that's a little less confusing and has more action than the last book by Erikson, may I humbly suggest the newest novel by Ian C. Esslemont, 'Return of the Crimson Guard'. A book with a riveting story and some fantastic action; and written with a simplicity of language that I've started to miss with some of Erikson's latest books (especially 'Toll the Hounds')
IF your a 'Malazan' fan, you'll not be disappointed.
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Gotta agree with the 3 previous posts, Oct. 5 2008
Like the other reviewers here, I found this book quite difficult to get into. It does seem like Erikson has taken a different approach to writing this novel and it is an approach, quite frankly, that does not work. There are passages where Erikson squeezes in his views on religion, theology, economics, etc. but in an overly verbose and unenjoyable way. Interspersed in the novel are the meat and potatoes of the book where the plot is driven forward and the characters developed. I too found myself skipping over the former parts to get to the more interesting paragraphs. I don't even bother reading the poems that start off each paragraph anymore. I don't see the point.
I love Erikson's other works and recommend those to all my friends looking for a great fantasy read. Sadly, I can't say the same for this book. I will finish it just so I know what is going on for the next book. Hopefully Erikson (or his editor) gets this series back to what made it popular in the first place.
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Excellent...but not comparable to the rest, Oct. 2 2008
This series is my favourite series of all time. The ability of the author to capture and hold the attention of the reader is astounding to say the least. There is so much going on in each novel that it is truly awe-inspiring that Mr. Erikson can even bring each storyline together for a conclusive mind-blowing finale. And he does this over and over with each subsequent publication.
That being said, although this book easily surpasses the majority of other epic fantasy novels out there, it was my least favourite of the series. This may sound a little odd but I found this book extremely "wordy"...and not in a good way. The style was completely different from his other novels. Almost as if Kruppe narrated the whole thing in his off the wall dialog (which at times I could swear it was him). It was a tad annoying and because of its excessiveness, not a whole hell of a lot happened in 3/4 of the novel. The book is about 900 pages long, but it is only the last 200 pages where Mr. Erikson's skills really shine through like the previous novels. At times I was in tears...but I have to admit that I was slightly confused at the end of this novel with regards to the doings of Rake. While the characters within the novel (like Draconas) appear to have an epiphany about Rake's goals...I still feel like I have missed something vital that may come back to haunt me as I continue the series. I have even felt the need to check online for an "explanation" of what happened, although no luck finding this information as of yet.
I sincerely hope Mr. Erikson reverts back to his writing style as seen in the previous novels. Although a superior novel, it was not up to par with the others in the series.
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Interesting Developments in the Malazan World(s), Sep 2 2008
Those of us who have read the first books will not need persuasion to pick this one up, but it is not for those who just want a taste of Erikson's work to see what all the fuss is about.
There are many old friends from earlier days, a couple of older villains, and the usual number of surprises - especially towards the end. The contents revolve about Darujhistan, and that is really all the series' fans need to know.
I can safely say this is not the easiest of Erikson's Malazan books. That isn't to say the heros are heroic, the villains vile, and the craven numerous; it is more to say it is more uneven and the style is, at times, more whimsical than in the previous books.
I can't rank it higher because the previous books are better, but I certainly can't rank it lower because it is much better than the usual swords and sorcerers fare. For that matter, it should receive a minimum of two stars simply for meeting the publishing deadline.
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Just can't finish it!, Déc 12 2008
I never thought the day would come when I wouldn't be able to finish a Steven Erikson book, but I think it is finally here!! I'm on page 187 and I don't think I've got enough time in my life to read any more...there are just way too many books out there that are demanding my attention.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE this series and have read all the books, which has been a significant financial and temporal commitment for any reader. But I actually had to go online to look for a "coles notes" or some kind of readers' forum in an effort to understand just what the heck is happening in Toll the Hounds.
I gave it three stars because it is still VERY good writing. I just can't seem to figure it out. I'm so happy to see others saying the same thing in these reviews because I thought it was just me!! Naturally I worry that by not finishing this monster, I'll be lacking some significant piece of information for the next one, but I'm hoping the strange plotting and timing Erikson favours will be to my benefit this time!
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The Malazan Saga continues on...but with a struggle...3.5 Stars, Oct. 5 2008
This is the 8th book in Steven Erikson's 'Malazan Book of the Fallen" series.
Of all the books in the Malazan series, this is, without a doubt, my least favorite...I will explain
First, the pros;
Overall, this series is epic fantasy at its best; in fact 829 pages in this book alone. There is intrigue, magic, unexpected enemies and friends and even some erotic moments; not to mention the usually backstabbing and clandestine plotting. In this book we are reacquainted with some old friends from previous tales, e.g. Cutter, Druiker, Karso Orlong (Toblakai warrior), Anomander Rake and last but not least, the ever loquacious, forever famished, mound of round, Kruppe.
Erikson's strength is his use of prose to describe people and their surrounding, all the while weaving a tale his characters come alive in; this latest installment is no exception. In fact, this may be the first in all the books that may be somewhat overwritten because of some of these perceived strengths. Which leads me into commenting on...
The cons;
1.)As with previous Erikson works, the book starts off by given brief glimpses of several different developing stories. The problem here, in my opinion, is that unlike previous books, most of these story lines do not really develop into something resembling a plot until well after the first 200+ pages.
2.)In addition to the slow development, the writing seems heavy and difficult to follow; I had to almost 'study' sections to try to figure out what Erikson had his characters doing and saying.
3.)I found I became 'weary' of trying to interpret the vague, unclear conversations and happenings that occurred through out most of the entire novel. Eventually I stopped trying to figure out the difficult passages and just concentrated on sections that I found easy to understand; I don't think I'd have finished the book otherwise.
4.)I never thought I'd ever hear myself saying this about an Erikson book, but I found myself somewhat bored by some of the dragged out, confusing descriptions and tales; almost to the point of skimming them.
5.)And last, I don't think I've ever been so happy to finally finish a book
Conclusion:
A Malazan tale that slogs through a slow beginning, middle and end. That is not to say there weren't some great moments in this book, because there were, many in fact; and this is the reason I rated the book as high as I did.
I seems to me that Erikson has 'stumbled' with this book; he knows what he's talking about, but I can't say the same for me. I wonder about other readers; I'm I the only one to notice this tendency towards 'unreadability'?
I hope Erikson gets back on track with his next installment; one more book like this and he may begin to lose some of his loyal followers. Difficult to rate this book, so I settled for a 3.5 and rounded it up to a 4.0 (rather than down to a 3.0 ) because I decided to give Erikson the benefit of the doubt...for this one.
Ray Nicholson
Addendum Nov 15/08
For anyone who wished to continue to satisfy their "Malazan" addiction, or for that matter, want to read a Malazan story that's a little less confusing and has more action than the last book by Erikson, may I humbly suggest the newest novel by Ian C. Esslemont, 'Return of the Crimson Guard'. A book with a riveting story and some fantastic action; and written with a simplicity of language that I've started to miss with some of Erikson's latest books (especially 'Toll the Hounds')
IF your a 'Malazan' fan, you'll not be disappointed.
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Toll The Hounds, Oct. 3 2008
A dissappointment from my most favourite author. Normally I would read a 900+ page Erikson book in about a week or two. It's been at least six weeks now and I'm maybe three quarters of the way through and in no rush to finish except so that I can be done. I'm not sure what happened between the last novel and this one but it seems like Toll The Hounds has been written by someone else (or edited?). In this novel the author's voice comes through like never before. There are pages and pages of what seems like personal musings on life, death, war, love, death, religion, death etc. etc. and intersperssed is a short story that advances the plot of the original series. These musings come up every few pages or even paragraphs and really feel like a departure from the story. In several instances Erikson takes us in to the mind of an Ox, which was maybe interesting the first time in the book but after the third it just gets a little boring. I feel terrible saying all of this because Steven Erikson is still one of my all time favourites and I hope that the next chapter of the series will be a return to his previous style.
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What Happened?, Nov. 10 2008
I was very excited about this novel at first. Later, not so much. In fact I am still struggling through it. Like the other reviewers have mentioned it seems like the book was written by someone else or edited in a much different way. I keep running into strange and empty observation which creates a lot of confusion. At first I read and reread these episodes and checked the character list to see if I had missed who he was talking about. Later I began skipping them. I have to say that I am disappointed with this book and I will now be hesitating about the next purchase.
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