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Great idea, inept movie, Mai 18 2004
The premise of "Windtalkers" is actually quite good, and loosly based upon actual WW2 history. What's true is that the US Marines did use Navaho speakers to code messages in the Pacific theater of action. The second premise of the movie, namely that they were assigned individual guardians (in this movie, Nicholas Cage and Christian Slater) to kill them if they were being captured, I'm not so sure about. I guess, as John Woo has it, that's why if there was a battle, these guys were right in front begging to be captured.The movie starts out with a nice idea, but is utterly destroyed by the movie's lack of realism and unimaginitive plot, which buries the two Native Americans in a stunningly shallow film in which they are seconds. As best I can tell, Hollywood has decided that war movies fall into one of two categories: Private-Ryan realism or "Pearl Harbor" shazaam-special effects. "Windtalkers" plants itself firmly in the latter category - a Pearl Harbor with Marines. Granades go of like miniature A-bombs, with big all consuming fireballs (which, of course, Marines get to outrun). Aircraft are cheezy digital things that fly like Starcraft space fighters. Uniforms are all wrong. The Japanese stupidly charge into our waiting guns. When people got shot, I thought of "Kill Bill"- you'll know what I mean. But that was camp and this is supposed to be serious. We don't even get to like Nicholas Cage, a fine actor who has nothing to do but act anguished all the time (compare his nuanced performance in "Matchstick Men") and charge Japanese bunkers with his Thompson, which never misses and never runs out of ammunition, repeatedly like some faux-John Wayne. The two Navaho characters are noble and handled like wooden dolls. The outdoor scenes look implausibly like the north coast of Kauai or the hills near Ventura - not Saipan. When the Marines storm a Saipan village, the villagers, apparently oblivious to the war up to that point, are still trotting about doing their village things. What did the Japanese extras think when they were doing this film? Or when one of the Navaho characters puts on a Japanese helment and sneaks behind the lines because he "looks Japanese?" We had better ideas than this on out 5th grade playground. Parents: The movie is rated "R" for violence, and some language (one half hour of the Dave Chappelle show will bury this one). The violence is so comic-book that anyone over 11 can deal with it. To my surprise, my teenagers declared the movie incompetent after twenty minutes and returned to their homework.
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emotional, but lacking, Jui 30 2004
i admit, it made me cry - but what ever happened to the lady nurse who helped Joe Enders pass his hearing test in order to be able to go back to war, and was writing him all the time? the characters are static, though the Navajos are slightly more dynamic; there was little background info. too much bombs and shooting throughout, and i especially did not like the melodramatic part when Enders killed Whitehorse along with the Japs and then told Yahzee,"I killed him. I threw a bomb and blew him up," acting so sarcastic, wanting to provoke and die. finally, the code language should have been featured more.
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ful of stereotypes!, Jui 22 2004
It is a well done typicall Hollywood movie but I have seen all this so many times. Everything is so predictable. The movie with such great actors as Nicolas Cage and Christian Slater doesn't have any material for them to work with. I was shocked that such inventive director as John Woo could make such lame movie. Not recommended.
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Whats happened to John Woo??, Mai 11 2004
Everything is here for me to have a very enjoyable movie experience. Nic Cage, Christian Slater, John Woo, a war movie dealing with US Marines....so what happened.
Well the first thing is the technical errors. They just wont be tolerated anymore, not after Saving Pvt.Ryan,Black Hawk Down, and Band of Brothers. You have to get the uniforms right, and you certainly must get the battle scenes accurate. This film does niether. The battle scenes for the south pacific are very inaccurate as are these mish mashed uniforms. Realism went out the window.
Next we have the story of the Navajo code talkers which get very little play. Instead the main story revolves around the tormented Sgt.played (very well) by Nic Cage. It is an intresting character but Woo doesnt give even Cage the proper time and set-ups.
I cant help but wonder whats gone on with John Woo since coming to America. He has not matched the outstanding work he did in HongKong , let alone surpassed it. FaceOff is as close as he has come to his previous films. I wonder if the Hollywood system has had an adverse effect. Or has Mr. Woo just gotten tired?
I for one miss the "bullet ballets", the "over the top"melodrama, and the wonderfully metaphorical imagery. I will continue to hope that the great John Woo returns to his groundbreaking crime heroic/bloodshed movies of yesterday. Perhaps he should have a Tequila Pop and think about it.
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disappointing......., Fév 7 2004
Shortly after the war we lived on Saipan and our father told us about the bloody battle for the island......the thing that the film never described was the way the 30,000 Japanese were hold up in caves throughout the island.....As a child I also learned about the code talkers......so it was with real interest that I rented this film......however, it was soon apparent that Woo did not have the same direction in mind.....
He spent entirely too much time developing the Enders character and little time was spent with the Yahzee, Whitehorse and their training. Too bad he did not do what Kostner did in "Dances With Wolves" and develop other characters......who became the meat of the story......
Hollywood once more underestimates the viewing audience and what they expect.
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A remake of corny, hammy old Hollywood war-movies., Janv. 12 2004
We do need an updated Pacific-war film as a companion to 'Private Ryan', perhaps, 'Beach Red', 'None but the Brave', 'Sands of Iwo Jima' or even Jeffrey Hunter's entertaining 60s duo 'Hell to Eternity' and 'No Mans an Island' updated to current production values: Well, a movie about a very obscure and specialised aspect of the Pacific War was probably never likely to be it, it subsequently failed to teach us much about the role of Navajo code-talkers in the war, and failed to be much of a regular war-film to be taken seriously either.
Opening close quarters Marines vs Japanese battle-scene on Guadalcanal was actually promising and rather graphically impressive, this seems to be a pattern with mediocre war-efforts lately, an impressive staged opening battle-scene, then its all downhill from there. 'Harts War' did the same thing.
After that, cliches abound, accuracy to any typical Pacific-Island tactical war situation that Im familiar with eludes me, and consists of Japanese soldiers repeatedly springing -out individually or in small group, charging yelling down little hills and being over and over again put away with Chicago choppers. (Like a Japanese imitation of the old 'Combat'TV-show Germans) Caje doesnt really work even in casting, doesnt really know how to go about portraying the cliched stressed-out traumatised veteran, to be fair he probably gets about as far as expected with a 50s pedestrian script and a director who by the sound of his name cut his teeth on Hong-Kong chop-sockey movies, and if it had Kung-Fu instead of rifles artillery and bayonette charges, this would actually be an above-average contribution to that genre. He must have been instinctively- tempted to make greater use of the sword-wielding Japanese-officers.The two Native-Americans and their knife-fights hand-to-hand with the Japanese troops are actually well-done and a highlight in a low dark landscape, , theres that martial-arts film experience shining again.( Was this revenge for the Japanese Samurai that messed up all those native-American warriors in the cornfield in that cool Charles Bronson-Toshiro Mifune western years ago?)Sets and costumes are ok, credit where its due, the Japanese strong-points with a camouflaged period field-gun look about right. Like 'U-571' and 'Harts War', ok for keeping the kids out of your hair for a couple of hours. Other than that, Native-americans would be the only other target-audience.Even so, Im not aware that Native-American Code-talkers actually made possible the Allied victory over Japan, I'd need more convincing than this sensationalising, misleading melodrama.
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My Review for Windtalkers, Janv. 2 2004
Windtakers Didn't Have a Strong script.
Like Saving Private Ryan.
Alltrough It was Silmiler Storyline
set In world war two story About Soldiers
and Of course Violence. The Movie I think
Is more about Joe Enders (Nicolas Cage)
Then The Navajo Codetalkers.
Like In Ryan' It has A little More Focus
On James Francis Ryan. (Matt deamon)
Alltrough Windtalkers Had Violent Sceens
But It was Pale Compared to Saving Private Ryan's
In your Face Nightmarish More Graphic Pychologicly
More Disturbing Then Windtalkers. The camera Just Flies
In Windtalkers But In ryan I'ts Like Somone Had a Hand Heald
Camera Looks more Like a domcumenrty.
Windtalkers It's More Sentimentel Then Ryan
Saving Private Ryan is More Blunt Realistic
Then Windtalkers
I recamend Saving Private Ryan. Then Windtalkers.
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good battles but doesnt survive the fight, Déc 8 2003
Nicolas Cage(Snake Eyes, Vampire's Kiss), Christian Slater(Pup Up The Volume, Heathers), Adam Beach(Joe Dirt, Smoke Signals), Noah Emmerich(The Truan Show, Monument Ave.) and Mark Ruffalo(The Last Castle, xx/yy) star in WindTalkers, which really means some Native American thing about the soldiers who were Native American....being that Adam Beach is in this one. good battle sequences makes this good for some time but the dramatic side becomes wooden and we dont seem to care about Cage or Beach or anyone after awhile..note: Slater gets beheaded in this one..ouch
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Want to get that six-pack without actually exercising?, Nov. 12 2003
***PROS***- Good story That's it. After two minutes of 'CHAAAAAARGE!!!!!', excuse me, *ahem*, "realistic Woo, er, war scenes", I had to actually stop the tape because I couldn't breathe, I was laughing SO hard! While this does save this film from the dreaded one-star rating, because I morbidly appreciate 'so-bad-it's-hilarious' filmmaking as much as the next guy, it doesn't save this movie from being a complete and utter failure. You remember those annoying scenes that whispered "Woo-was-here" from Face/Off? Well, those Woo-scenes plague this film pretty much from start to finish. Want to watch a GOOD Woo film? Watch Face/Off instead.
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Out of John Woo's element, Aoû 16 2003
I have been John Woo's avid fan for years. I have been following his works since his directorial effort in HK namely, "A Better Tomorrow" starring Chow Yuen Fatt. John Woo is a very good story teller especially when it involves the unspoken honour of brotherhood, the final showdown between the good & the bad (especially when one's wittiness is matched by the other's deviousness). Compounded by his signature-style slow motion sequence, we have modern classic action movies in the making. Among his works in Hollywood, he was at his best in MI2 starring Tom Cruise, Face Off starring Nicholas Cage & John Trovolta, Broken Arrow starring John Trovolta & Christian Slater. Other works of his such as Hard Target starring Jean Claude Van Demme is rather pedestrian. I'm sad to say that Windtalkers belongs to the latter category. Mind you, this is John Woo's first exposure to combat movie. When his work is to be compared with Steven Spielberg's Saving Private Ryan or even HBO's special, Band of Brothers, Windtalkers doesn't fare so well. John tries to squeeze as much action packed sequence into the movie & not compromising upon the character building exercise. All I can say is that there is too much battle repetition, & all characters in the movie are two-dimensional. In the end, when the main characters are slowly been killed off by those faceless Japanese soldiers, we don't feel for them. I'm feeling sorry for Nicholas Cage & Christian Slater as they are trying hard to save this movie from sinking further. Nicholas has got a demented face the whole time & one can't help but wonder if he's playing his character or if he's doubting his involvement in this movie. The actors who played the Navajo's codebreakers are genuine & fresh in their roles & they are convincing in their performance. This movie is over 2 hours long & one could wish for a tighter script. Even the love interest of Nicholas Cage doesn't go anywhere. Their relationship isn't explored fully but simply gone with the wind. A mediocre effort from an A class director. He's definitely out of his element & just hope that we haven't seen the best of his works yet!
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