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Wonderful Classic
Truly an entertaing and very informative mini series. The story is captivating and even though the Japanese speak in their own language one is not lost but is held bound as the saga unfolds. A love story and war/power struggle wrapped into one package guaranteed to deliver satisfaction.
Publié le Jui 2 2004
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A great disappointment!!!
I have waited for years to get my hands on a DVD version of Shogun. I wanted the VHS set, but it was toooo pricy and so I waited. With much joy I managed to save enough money to get the mini-series on DVD and watched it immediately. Imagine my dismay when I sat wondering where whole scenes were. Please bear in mind that I watched this series ONE time, when it...
Publié le Juil 9 2004 par Carrie Johnson
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A great disappointment!!!, Juil 9 2004
I have waited for years to get my hands on a DVD version of Shogun. I wanted the VHS set, but it was toooo pricy and so I waited. With much joy I managed to save enough money to get the mini-series on DVD and watched it immediately.
Imagine my dismay when I sat wondering where whole scenes were. Please bear in mind that I watched this series ONE time, when it first aired, and it stuck with me in many ways in spite of the fact that I was only 10 years old. So much is missing that it really upset me. What has been cut, you ask? Well, there was a scene where Blackthorne talks to Alveto about wearing Orange instead of Black garb, a scene where we learn that Anjin does not mean "pilot", but Captain, and that he'd better let them think himself to be the captain, and the great love scene complete with nudity (YES, in case you don't believe me my local television station DID air the version with nudity. I recall it very vividly as it was the first time I had seen a naked lady, and my grandmother, whom I was staying with, pitched a fit that they'd show stuff like that on TV.). There are other small scenes missing, but those were the ones that really struck me. Also, there is a very distinct lack of special features for a 5th disc. I would have liked to see the variant scenes they filmed for the trimmed down version. Overall the tale is a great one, and I reccomend the series, but as DVD sets go this one is a major let down for me.
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It was fresh, once upon a time, Jui 11 2004
When this epic mini-series came out, it was awesome, over time it has faded. I'm glad it's in DVD. The book will suck you in and keep you there. It lost something in the translation from book to T.V., I would recommend reading the book first.
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Wonderful Classic, Jui 2 2004
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Truly an entertaing and very informative mini series. The story is captivating and even though the Japanese speak in their own language one is not lost but is held bound as the saga unfolds. A love story and war/power struggle wrapped into one package guaranteed to deliver satisfaction.
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Domo! Wakarimasu!, Mai 2 2004
This miniseries is hilarious! It's worth buying just to watch the first disc, while the rest of the series has plenty of hilarious moments too. First of all, all of the costumes look like something you'd see a monkey running around wearing in a planet of the apes movie. My favorite was the clothes Blackthorne was wearing before he started wearing those sweet 70's kimonos all the time. But by far, the funniest part of this whole miniseries are the portions involving any white person speaking in Japanese (with the exception of Father Alvito, who was a little more laid-back and seems to have put a little more work into it). An early highlight is the first appearance of Jonathan Rhys-Davies, jumping around screaming at the Samurai in a mix of Japanese and English ("Is this the Anjin, ka?!" "Kinjiru, eh? Well not for me, it's not kinjiru!"). Then there's Richard Chamberlain, whose performance really made this picture shine. He delivers singularly the best line in the picture. He asks the lady Mariko how to say truth in Japanese, she tells him the word is "hontoo." And then he lets loose this baby: "Then is is hontoo that you are the most beautiful lady in all the Japans!" Or something along those lines. I guess he was supposed to be gaining fluency in Japanese but he never seemed to say anything other than "Domo, Toranaga-sama!" "Wakarimasu!" There are a few parts where he tries to piece together slightly more complex thoughts, with questionable but amusing results. Of course it makes sense that an Englishman who ends up in Japan with no prior knowledge of the language would be bad at it, but Rhys-Davies has no excuse! For non-Japanese related humor, theres the part where Blackthorne realistically stops a Japanese Feudal Lord from killing his own master by jumping around, shouting and clapping his hands like he was in a gospel choir. "Ho, ho, ho! Ho, ho, ho!" I watched this scene several times. Unlike the western actors, most of the Japanese actors did an excellent job. But their parts were so underdeveloped, apparently in favor of having 70 scenes where Blackthorne and Mariko sit around saying things like "I love thee and I wish to be with thee." Eventually it gets to the point where you want to ask, "I wonder if they love each other? Gee, it sure would be sad if she ended up dying!" Anyway, great fun if you don't take it too seriously. Domo! Wakarimasu!
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More action would = Better....., Avril 29 2004
Great 9 hour series, but not enough action. I thought there would have been at least a couple major battles but there was only minor skirmishes, like the ninja seen etc. Those samurai have all those Katana but don't use them enough.
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brilliant historical and cultural television, Avril 8 2004
Extraordinary mini series about japan that was shot in japan with japanese actors and, somewhat frustratingly (but intentionally so), with lots of real japanese dialog. Chamberlain is the only reasons this piece is not one of televisions best moments ever. He is so outclassed by the rest of the fantastic cast that it really takes away from the series. One gets the impression of a terrible actor walking around feudal japan.
The series' depiction of the culture of the time is accurate and in a way can save you feudal japan 101. The constant suicides everywhere might seem overdone or even silly, but are actually quite in keeping with the times depicted. Visit one of the actual castles in japan and you will find a rediculous selfslaughterfest among some of its regal inhabitants (if a lord kills himself a good dozen woman around him do the same and there are many "goodbye" poems on display, ah there is so much our culture could learn...). I found this knowledged made the series more enjoyable to watch, knowing that this was very real and giving some insights into the origins of this behaviour.
So much has been said about the movie I only want to add that this is a shortened version of the original 12.5 hour piece. This is very frustrating, because having additional material never shown on tv (the great american fear of nipples)seems ideal for dvd releases. If ever there was an opportunity for added value dvd this was it. That is why I gave only 3 stars, well and Chamberlain.
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A one of a kind experience, but imperfect., Mars 19 2004
This is recommended for those who have an interest in feudal Japan. Those looking for an action-packed samurai epic may want to stick with the way-too-Hollywood "The Last Samurai". This is a thinking man's epic; character driven, full of political intrigue (though not nearly as much as the book), and filled with rich details that really transport you to that period in time. As great as it is to see such an excellent book done such justice, the film is flawed. Richard Chamberlain gives an often Charleton Heston-esque performance (not really a bad thing) but delivers some unintentionally hilarious lines (to his ship caught in a storm and about to crash into a reef: "Turn you whore from hell, TUUUUURRRRN!"). Rather than have subtitles for the few scenes where Japanese characters meet and speak amongst each others, we have annoying voice-overs (delivered by Orson Welles, no less) describing the conversation. Cheesy. Also, much of the political aspect of the story was simply cut out to make room for more Blackthorne and Mariko. Lastly, for a story about samurai that was already starving for action to actually have several battle scenes shortened or entirely cut out was unforgiveable. Yabu's duel with Blackthorne's retainer and the battle at Ishido's castle as Mariko tries to leave would have been awesome to see, but are simply skipped. Don't worry though, the ninja attack is entirely intact and the highlight of the mini-series. Most of the action we do get to see is very brief and without any excitement or flair; this is where a little Hollywood touch might have helped. Thankfully, the action is far from the main reason to watch. This is a STORY. It's got romance, drama, comedy,and much more. John Rhys-Davies (that's Gimli for you LOTR fans) steals every scene he's in as Blackthorne's friend/rival pilot Rodriguez and Toshiro Mifune is absolutely flawless as Toranaga. The disc of extras is a happy bonus. It's full of interesting observations from cast and crew and offers a lot of insight into the making of the film and the impact it had when it originally aired. I prefer the book and with this mini-series clocking in at 8+ hours, it might take you less time to read the book. But know that this DVD collection does it justice and that is a rare thing these days. If you have a genuine interest in Japanese culture and thought "The Last Samurai" was too Hollywood, this is a must-buy.
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A Classic but not so Great !, Mars 8 2004
I remember reading the book a couple of years back but can't seem to recall the actual ending ...was there a great battle
between TORANAGA and ISHIDO's forces leading to the climactic finale of TORANAGA being SHOGUN ?
If you are to see this film for the first time , then surely you'd be at the edge of your seat ( in anticipation of a huge and climactic battle) . The first 3 discs , yes ! But as soon as you see the fourth disc winding down to the last few minutes of the last chapter , I would not be surprised if you end up asking yourself ..."Is that it ?" , "What happened ?" "Where's the rest of the stuff , damn , I think I got ripped off by 'em DVD store". Probably , I got used to watching all those big WAR films , I kinda expected too much from this one.The makers of the film intended to tell the story from Blackthorne's view (thus the lack of english subtitle for those japanese dialogues). This I find confusing really , the fact that they focused to much on Blackthorne's character rather than the actual story of the book which really is about the imminent war between the ruling warlords of Japan during that time ,and an eventual winnner ,thus the title SHOGUN. Blackthorne's character ( I believe) ,was more of a coincidental witness to that eventful era in Ancient Japan. His character should have been more of a storyteller , rather than his character ,being the
beginning and the ending story. This should have allowed the film makers to come up with a complete film. You get this feeling
that there really was no ending . Nevertheless, the historical value of the film cannot be discounted .The film was successfull in conveying Japan's
regard for honor and dignity. This film was a window to an ancient past , and we are a lucky generation to have been a witness to such a classic film. Overall, I would give it a 3 star rating . This is one film that deserves a remake , one that should be shown in the
big screen. This should give the (overrated) Lord of the Rings a run for it's money.
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A classic but not a Great Classic !!, Mars 8 2004
I remember reading the book a couple of years back but can't seem to recall the actual ending ...was there a great battle
between TORANAGA and ISHIDO's forces leading to the climactic finale of TORANAGA being SHOGUN ?
If you are to see this film for the first time , then surely you'd be at the edge of your seat ( in anticipation of a huge and climactic battle) . The first 3 discs , yes ! But as soon as you see the fourth disc winding down to the last few minutes of the last chapter , I would not be surprised if you end up asking yourself ..."Is that it ?" , "What happened ?" "Where's the rest of the stuff , damn , I think I got ripped off by 'em DVD store". Probably , I got used to watching all those big WAR films , I kinda expected too much from this one.The makers of the film intended to tell the story from Blackthorne's view (thus the lack of english subtitle for those japanese dialogues). This I find confusing really , the fact that they focused to much on Blackthorne's character rather than the actual story of the book which really is about the imminent war between the ruling warlords of Japan during that time ,and an eventual winnner ,thus the title SHOGUN. Blackthorne's character ( I believe) ,was more of a coincidental witness to that eventful era in Ancient Japan (only) and should have been the storyteller rather than the main protaginist. There was too much detail on his character. Nevertheless, the historical value of the film cannot be discounted .The film was successfull in conveying Japan's regard for honor and dignity. This film was a window to an ancient past , and we are a lucky generation to have been a witness to such a classic film. Overall, I would give it a 3 star rating . This is one film that deserves a remake , one that should be shown in the big screen. This should give the (overrated) Lord of the Rings a run for it's money.
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Thank you, Paramount!, Mars 2 2004
Paramount was generous enough to transfer the classic TV mini-series to DVD. It could be seen as a risk since something this broad and expansive will not hold the attention of all audiences. Even with compression technology of the DVD format the movie still runs through four discs with a supplementary fifth disc. It is certainly a whole lot better than...what, ten VHS cassettes? That is a little trite.
First, the story. James Clavell's book Shogun is an all-time classic with many plots with multiple characters, not just the seemingly "main character" Major Pilot John Blackthorne. The book covers a lot of ground that the movie epic amazingly does not have the time to reveal. If that does not say something about the complexity of the story, nothing will. The movie basically tries to mostly cover Blackthorne's adventure through the Japans, with additional focus on the machinations of the Jesuit 'enemy'.
The transfer to DVD wasn't perfect but the source film is a little dated and grainy but the picture quality definitely passable. No major complaints and I appreciate the effort by Paramount to improve the image. The dialog sound is also not perfect but it does not degrade the experience. I only have one complaint, however tedious. The music is mixed slightly too high as compared to the dialog. The effort to keep turning the volume up and down between music and speaking does compromise the DVD production, but it shouldn't count against the movie.
The casting for the movie is spot on for the most part. Chamberlain is believable as Blackthorne, and no one else cast at that time would've come close. The legendary Toshiro Minfune reveled in his role as the calculating Yoshi Toranaga. Damien Thomas is exactly how I imagined Father Alvito looked and acted while reading the novel. Yoko Shimada spoke with class and elegance as Mariko Buntaro. And John Rhys-Davies (yes, Gimli of the Lord of the Rings) gave a rolicking performance as the Spanish Pilot Rodrigues caught up in choice of friendship and duty.
So, once again, a giant "arigato gozaimash'te" to Paramount for the DVD version to the movie production of one of the most intriguing novels ever. It is a commercial gamble to reach the 'big audience' of today, but I'm glad the true fans of this epic were not forgotten.
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Shogun par Jerry London (DVD - 2003)
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