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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars A worthy release for an overlooked album,
This review will mostly focus on the 2nd disc, which features the late Ray Gillen recorded takes of what should've been "The Eternal Idol" had Ray stayed in the band. It's important to mention that those recordings never made it all the way to the mastering process. It has a very demo sound. But since it's an official released authorized by Tony Iommi himself, it's probably the best sounding demos you'll hear of those recordings. That Sabbath era was as interesting as it was confusing. There was a lot of coming & going in the band's line up. It's quite surprising that Tony was able to release such a good album in the middle of all the turmoil. To hear what "The Eternal Idol, was supposed to sound like is great. Not to take anything away from Tony Martin, who would end up being the longest singer after Ozzy to front the band, but Ray's singing is just amazing. If you're like me & have been enjoying this album for the past 20 years, then you'll find Ray's version of the songs quite fascinating if not refreshing. He had a much higher range & sang some of the verses / choruses so differently that you can't help yourself wonder how much different that era would've been if Ray wouldn't have quit during the album's recording session. On a side notes, while the liner notes are a great read, it would've been nice to have a few pictures of Ray instead of mostly still shots from the band's music video. This era is often overlooked because, for a lot of fans, Ozzy & Ronnie James Dio are the only 2 true singers fo Black Sabbath but nonetheless this deluxe edition is a must for all true Sabbath fans & collectors alike.
5.0 out of 5 stars About time.,
Bob Daisley said it best when he said that the album should have been released this way with Ray Gillen on vocals. He shines on this. A very very solid album from beginning to end.
4.0 out of 5 stars At least I like it,
This review is from: Eternal Idol (Audio CD)
The 80's version(s) of Black Sabbath are often criticized as being a mess. I disagree. This album has some of their best songwriting and strongest riffs of the decade. Tony Marting seems to be giving it all he has and he should be commended for staying with Sabbath during a very turbulent decade and contributing to some underrated songs.
4.0 out of 5 stars great purchase,
I was very much satisfied with my purchase of The Eternal Idol Deluxe Expanded Edition. I always wanted to hear the album version with Ray Gillan. It is a demo version because he left the group before they could finnish it. There is lots to read inside the booklet and give a clear understanding of where the group was at in the time. I also had great service with Amazon I received my CD like it was said in the order.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Rise Up to the Shining,
The years of chaos were seemingly coming to an end as Black Sabbath stabalized into a solid core of Tony Iommi, Geoff Nicholls, and new lead singer Tony Martin. The drum and bass positions would continue to swirl for another year, right up until the Headless Cross tour. Getting to this point was not without struggle, and this new Deluxe Edition illustrates this beautifully.
I'm going to sidestep the issue of "Does Eternal Idol really deserve the Deluxe Edition treatment?" and just be glad it's out. There are, after all, two B-sides here that were ridiculously expensive to acquire on 12" vinyl. Those songs, "Some Kind of Woman" and the original version of "Black Moon" (which would later be re-recorded on Headless Cross) finally complete the Eternal Idol picture. And they're not bad songs either, particularly "Black Moon". "Strange Kind of Woman" I haven't wrapped my head around yet. It's this uptempo boogie rocker and aside from "Blue Suede Shoes" I don't think I've ever heard Black Sabbath boogie before. But it's not bad, Tony's playing is awesome, but maybe...ill advised is the term I'm looking for.
The bonus disc is the entire album's original recording with former vocalist Ray Gillen (their seventh) before he was replaced by Martin (their eigth singer). This had been mostly available on a very common bootleg called the Ray Gillen Years, but missing a couple tracks. Now, the entire album as recorded by Gillen can be heard, and in much better sound quality.
I can still remember keeping up with the Sabbath story via their music videos on Much Music. I was surprised when I saw that the "new" singer, the bearded Glenn Hughes, had been replaced by the much cooler looking Tony Martin. Skeptical, I watched the video for the first and only single "The Shining". Lo and behold, the song was awesome! The riff (which according to Tony went back to the Geezer Butler days) was powerful and epic just like anything Sabbath had done with Dio. The chorus shimmered with intensity. The new singer rocked! Unfortunately, Martin would spend his entire career with a "mini-Dio" or "Dio-clone" tag. The similarities are that Martin has a similar range and equal amount of power, but not the grit and a different character. Luckily, Martin would stick around for 5 albums but never shook the "replacement singer" tag.
Aside from "The Shining", I find The Eternal Album to lack lustre. "Glory Ride" is the only other song that was single-worthy, a great romp that reminds me heavily of "Strange Wings" by Savatage (a song that featured Ray Gillen on backing vocals!) The rest of the songs...well, they ain't bad. "Born To Lose" is fast and furious, as is "Lost Forever". "Scarlet Pimpernel" is one of those atmospheric Sab instrumentals that they were known for in the early days and its inclusion was very wise. However, the songs so tend to meld into one another, with only "The Shining" and "Glory Ride" making my personal Sabbath road tapes.
I mentioned the creation of this album was chaotic. Aside from the replacement of the lead singer position mid-album, there were also two drummers: Eric Singer departed to be replaced by ex-Sabbath drummer Bev Bevan! But by the tour, Bevan would be replaced by ex-The Clash drummer (Dr.) Terry Chimes. Dave Spitz partially recorded the bass to be replaced by ex-Rainbow and Ozzy bassist Bob Daisley. Daisley was gone before the video for "The Shining" was filmed, to be replaced by a mystery man who nobody bothered to catch the name of. You can see him in the video. The story goes, they needed a bassist for the video and pulled this guy off the street. For the tour, Jo Burt filled the bassist slot. Neither Chimes nor Burt would stick around to the next album, Headless Cross.
Eternal Idol was a crucial step towards solidifying Black Sabbath once again after the chaos of the previous years, but it would be the next album, Headless Cross, that was a resounding return. A much more solid album, Headless featured the new nucleus of the two Tony's and the legendary Cozy Powell on drums. Session bassist Lawrence Cottle (a great fretless player) was replaced for the new while by Cozy's longtime rhythm partner, Neil Murray on bass. That lineup of Powell, Murray, Iommi and Martin (always with Geoff Nicholls on keys) would prove to be one of the most stable in the band's history and the one that I saw when I first saw Sabbath live in 1995 on the Forbidden tour.
Anyway, I'm going off on a tangest. My point was to show that this album was really not the "comeback" that it could have been, but merely a step towards rebuilding Black Sabbath. You have to admire Tony Iommi for not giving up. Eternal Idol is not for those fans who just like Ozzy, or just like Dio. Eternal Idol is for the metal maven who wants to know every chapter in the band's history. Otherwise, I can't recommend it, except for the two songs "The Shining" and "Glory Ride". Purchase accordingly.
Now, when will we get a Born Again special edition? Dehumanizer is coming in 2011.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Solid album, if not incredibly consistant,
I got introduced to the Eternal Idol as I had heard that it was the best of the Tony Martin Albums. For anyone that doesn't know, Martin is actually the second longest serving Sabbath vocalist, singing on FIVE albums from 1987-1995. to put that in perspective, Ozzy only sang on eight albums, and Ronnie James Dio (RIP) only on 3-4, depending on if you count 2009's "The Devil You Know" as a Sabbath album.
Tony Martin came in to replace the departing Ray Gillen (RIP) who had taken over vocal duties on the SABBATH tour that followed the release of the Sabbath in name only-album Seventh Star, replacing the departing Glen Hughes. Are you confused yet? The bottom line is, Ray Gillen did an amazing job with his only album of original music with Sabbath, and that material was never officially released, until now. Traded among bootleggers for years, the demo tapes are now presented in their glory on disc two of this reissue. In addition, there are two bonus tracks added to the main disc with Martin on vocals. Both of these vocalists add an interesting dynamic to the ever-changing Sabbath sound, and Geoff Nichols keyboard alternates between acting as a second melody, and as a rhythm guitar, filling in the sound during solos. Ray's voice is very powerful, possessing incredible highs, and one of the best vibratos I have heard this side of Rob Halford. Tony Martin's voice is often compared to Dio's, but I think his highs possess more depth, and that when he is at his best, he has more control over his voice than the Sabbath-era Dio. All in all, this disc is a great release for any fan of hard rock/heavy music, particular just to hear how Iommi evolved with the times, while still maintaining the crushing guitar riffs he is well know for.
Even for the casual fan, "Ancient Warrior" and "The Shining" by either vocalist are highly recommended.
0 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Double CD!,
Great hearing the Ray Gillen versions of the songs on the second CD...the tracks are cleaned up quite a bit compared to bootleg versions I've heard.
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