Customer Reviews

Zojirushi BB-CEC20WB Home Bakery Supreme, White

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I bought mine (Zojirushi BB-CEC20WB Home Bakery Supreme, White) three weeks ago. Before that, I had a few other bread makers (vertical Philips Deluxe, Horizontal Philips, Tefal home bread
baguette bread maker) and had a close look at pretty much every model available at Sears, Canadian Tire, Walmart, Costco and Zellers (Cuisinart, B&D, West Bend and so on). Most bread maker models had a remarkably low quality with poor design, disgusting appearance, cheap knobs falling out or in, poor coating, sharp edges, aluminum or plastic transmissions and even plastic kneading blades (!). Before Tefal, I also bought the famous Kitchen Aid mixer, quite advanced, expensive and powerful (600 Wt) model, but, surprisingly, it could not prepare whole wheat dough properly, the process was quite messy, aluminum hook etc., so I returned it back to the store. In between, I was making bread manually. Thus, my impression is that for making bread and moderate amounts of dough, a good bread maker seems to be the best choice.

To my experience, the main problem with more or less decent bread makers, like Horizontal Philips or Tefal baguette, is that even though the bread maker itself still works fine, the companies are no longer supplying spare parts, particularly bread pans and paddles. So after a while, usually when the bread pan starts leaking in a year or two, the whole machine becomes almost useless.

Thus, having spare parts was a big plus for considering Zojirushi. Yet another was composing custom programs. The price... Well, Tefal cost $199 ($149 on sale) when I bought it, Horizontal Philips was $149. Zojirushi cost $214, now it costs $189. There is some difference indeed, but Zojirushi design is far superiour.

Now some of my impressions.

First of all, the Zojirushi unit is very well balanced and is NOT moving during kneading. Most other bread makers I tried, except Tefal baguette, tended to move (which means a good chance of falling off the shelf or table, running into something, falling into the kitchen sink filled with water and dishes, plugging themselves out and so on).

The Zojirushi is quiet. In fact, this is probably the least noisy bread maker I have used.

The unit is decently designed. It fits nicely under the kitchen shelves. The lead does NOT tend to fall onto your fingers when you open the bread maker. By the way, Tefal baguette rack fits well into Zojirushi, too.

Zojirushi remembers not only the last program used, but also its modifications, like preheat on or off, which is convenient. In other bread makers, browsing through beeping menus every time the unit is on seems a bit annoying.

Quality of dough and bread is good even for standard programs and an average "Selection" or "Compliments" flour from Food Basic or Price Chopper. The crust is NOT too dark if "light" is chosen. The loaf is NOT too heavy. I think the problems other folks have reported (the crust was too dark or uneven, bread much higher on one side, too hard etc.) were mostly due to their recipes or measuring errors, - if their units are not lemons, of course. Mine is apparently not. That custom programming allows to bake beautiful loafs, perfect, absolutely fantastic.

To illustrate what can be achieved by using the breadmaker's custom programming, I have added some images to the "Customer Images" section. They clearly show a good performance of the machine even in preparing some of the healthiest and best tasting (but also most demanding) types of bread, including old Russian style rye sour dough bread and whole wheat sore dough bread.

Recipe book and the instructional DVD are nice to have, even though I am mostly using my own recipes.

The paddles are made in such a way that they do not stick inside the loaf - a really nice feature that I have not seen in any other bread maker.

Cleaning the pan is exceptionally easy comparing to the other brands. Just soak for half an hour or so in warm water, the blades are going off easily.

Now some potentially weak points. The bread pan will probably need a replacement in a year or two - but this is true for any bread maker I have seen. A stainless steel pan and paddles, by the way, would make the breadmaker even more attractive. There are no additional side supports for the bread pan (thus the bottom mount experiences higher loads), - but, on the other hand, it makes the pan insertion and removal more convenient.

Nice looking, well designed, convenient, reliable, fool-proof. In summary, this is the best bread maker I have ever had.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ After a while ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

December 2, 2012, more than a year after my happy purchase. As I expected, the bread pan and the paddles proved to be the weakest point of the bread maker. After I paid a ridiculously high cost of the replacement pan and paddles (around $110), I found that the replacement blades themselves, like the original ones, are also being heavily worn during mixing, especially at their upper part, from inside the hole. Since they are made of aluminum, it results in releasing of toxic aluminum into the food, which is not acceptable.

I could only wish both the pan and the paddles were made of a less toxic material. In the meantime, I simply took off the blades. Now I am mixing the dough manually in a ceramic bowl (it takes about 5 minutes), then I put the dough in the pan with the blades removed and launch a simple custom program (say, 20 min preheat, 2 hrs to 2 hrs 30 min rise and 1 hr 10 min bake). Thus, no mixing, no toxic metal release in my food and no wearing of the precious bread pan. By the way, it seems that release of aluminum into the food is a common problem for all bread makers, since the pan and paddles are made of aluminum and are wearing out while mixing the dough. Since aluminum is heavily used in food industry, commercially available bread is probably contaminated with aluminum, too. Fortunately, the design and programming of the Zojirushi bread maker was flexible enough, so I could circumvent the aluminum problem. For that custom program, the machine also allows to set the crust control. I noticed that after the brief manual mixing, the bread rises less than after the machine mixing, which may sometimes be even advantageous. The texture and taste are also different, but very good, too.

I have been a professional baker, I really love making bread by hand. It fulfills a very primal need within me. No pun intended. So now I joke with my daughter that we have two bread makers in the house. One you just have to plug in, the other you have to coax away from a good book or other house building project he's working on. The one we plug in hasn't failed yet.It bakes good bread consistently

The Zojirushi is everything it was advertised to be. I only use Kamut, sometimes Spelt or Rice flours. Non of these flours has very much if any gluten. That's the stuff that makes the bread most people know, bind together. It's also the ingredient in wheat to which a lot of people are alergic.

After modifying the ratio of dry & wet ingredients a bit from the many recipes supplied with the bread maker we enjoy fresh bread everyday. And the double paddles ensure the motor is not overworked with the heavier doughs. So if you don't have the time, hands don't work as well as they once used to work, or love eating fresh bread but don't like to bake.... this machine is your answer. Worth the extra cost, a quality machine I suspect will last for years.

This is by far the best bread machine that I've owned. It kneads a great loaf though I found my first couple of loaves of bread lopsized. Still tasted great though. There is a bit of a learning curve for this machine. I have the baby Zo as well but purchased this for those times when a bigger loaf is needed. There has been complaints about the top being undercooked. I didn't find that to be the case though it does produce a lighter loaf than other bread machines that I've used.

The price here on Amazon is great for Canada. In fact I think the price is just as cheap or cheaper than those advertised in the US. Though this machine is certainly alot more expensive than others you do get what you pay for and it's worth every penny. Highly recommended.

Zojirushi BB-CEC20WB Home Bakery Supreme, WhiteI received the Zojirushi bread machine for Christmas. I have made 3 loaves of Gluten Free Brown Bread with Flax and Oat Bran now using the homemade cycle with a 20 minute warm up, a 25 minute knead, a 30 minute rise and then a 70 minute bake. I also have the 1hr "keep warm" in case the bread is not done...ie is not at least 200degrees. I bought the Thermapen RT600C Super-fast Water-resistant Digital Pocket Thermometerthermometer to make sure the bread is cooked. I have also tried 1 recipe from the Internet Zojirushi site and 2 loaves from mixes from Bob's Red Mill
I am very happy with the quality of the bread and with the money I should be able to save now that a loaf of GF bread is over $7.50/loaf here now.
I contacted the Zojirushi Customer Support line and they were wonderful. They set me straight on the Home Cycle settings and using just the RISE 3 for the one rise for making Gluten Free bread.

I am so happy that I decided to go for the more pricey breadmachine this time around. What I really love about it is the dual blades...no need to hover over it while the dough is mixing to ensure that all the flour has been incorporated into the mix. Have made pizza dough a couple of times & 3 loaves of bread. I have no complaints thus far as everything came out super. Cleanup is also very, very easy. Oh yes, after receiving it & reading the recipe book (this is the only negative thing ...I found the set up of the recipes to be a bit confusing) since this machine doesn't allow for the programming of different size loaves but includes 1.5 lb. loaf recipes as well as 2 lb. loaf recipes I emailed customer service as to the baking times. The reply came back within 24 hours(which is great service). According to them both sizes bake for the same length of time...since I've yet to bake a 1.5 lb. loaf I can't attest to the veracity of this statement. Bottom line: Would recommend this machine without hesitation.

I make bread quite often. With my old machine, I used to just make the dough, as the crust of a baked loaf was always too hard and over cooked. Since I got my new Zoji, I have made loaves, and dough, both of which have turned out excellent.

It is relatively quiet, and the container is easy to remove and replace, and also easy to clean. I really like the fact that the loaf shape is more like a real loaf of bread, and the two mixers are small enough not to make big holes in the bread.

I did read the reviews on Amazon before purchasing, and couldn't be happier. I know it is more expensive than a lot of makes out there, but I would definately recommend it.

I purchased the Zojirushi Mini Homebakery, and I love it. It consistantly turns out beautiful, fluffy loaves of bread with crisp, thin crusts, that are evenly cooked from top to bottom. I was so happy with it, that I then purchased this larger model, which consitantly turns out awful loaves of bread. The loaves bake up with hard, thick, overcooked bottoms and sides, and anemic looking undercooked tops, that like to cave in during the later part of the baking cycle. My theory is that, the larger model has a dull finish to its baking pan, which may absorb the heat while the baking is taking place. This may overcook the sides and bottom that contact the pan, and contribute to the underbaked caved in tops, by disturbing the heating system of the unit somehow? I am returning this unit for a refund. In my opinion, If you want homebaked bread, just like Grandma used to make, don't get this 2lb Zojirushi bread machine, but instead get the Zojirushi 1lb Mini Homebakery instead. It takes up little room on your countertop, and makes delicious bread :)

This is by far the best bread machine I have ever used. The results are so close to regular home made bread it's amazing! I don't find the top crust being ligher an issue, as it simply makes for a softer more tender loaf and easier to use for sandwiches etc especially when compared to the old tower loaf pans. This machine makes bread that my family will eat for any occasion....fresh, toasted, for sandwiches, beef dips, as a delicious side dish, or just grab a piece of bread and butter. They will also eat the whole wheat and rye breads without making a face for any of the above purposes, making this machine a wise health choice also!

No more preservative filled breads for us now that we have this machine!!!

If you are Canadian, I highly recommend also ordering the book '300 best Canadian bread machine recipes' by Washburn. Since American flour is different from Canadian flour you will get the best results from this book!
Put that book and this machine together and your possibilities are endless.

After a few years of looking wishfully at the Zojirushi breadmaker, I finally got one in Dec. I am extremely happy with it. It does take up a bit of room on the counter, but I think it's worth it not to have it stashed somewhere and less likely to use. I've never had a breadmaker that ran so smoothly or quietly. The quality of it is excellent. It's nice to have the 1.5 lb option for when it's just the two of us at home and the 2lb size is great for company or when we want more leftover. I was also surprised at how good the texture and taste of the loaves were compared to what previous breadmakers that we have owned made. The Zojirushi bread doesn't seem to have that "bread machine" taste or go instantly stale in one day. Would recommend this machine to anyone.

I am delighted with my new Breadmaker which was shipped very quickly, within three days of ordering, thank you. I have owned many different brands in the past, I thought that there was nothing to compare to the 'West Bend" bread maker, of which I have owned at least three over the years. This new Zojirushi is even better than my Westbend, bakes an amazing loaf and no effort. Thank you once again Amazon.
Diane.