on February 9, 2012
I received this box set about two weeks ago and I'm surprised that there aren't more complaints coming in. When ordering a box set I expect too be visually and aurally satisfied for the amount of money spent. I really don't have any complaints about the sound at all- both the Quad & 5.1 mixes on the Blu-ray are outstanding and the Cd's are great also. The problem comes with the Dvd's- one having the Blu-Ray material duplicated, but at a lower resolution. I could understand this being done a few years ago when Blu-Ray players were fairly expensive and not to many people owned them, but now they can be bought for well under a hundred dollars. I can't see myself playing the Dolby Digital compressed version when I have the better version at hand. I suppose for the few people who have 5.1 in there vehicles the Dvd would come in handy. The real complaint is for the second Dvd that is supposed too have 75 minutes of video content on it, when in fact it has only 25 minutes of pictures and animation. I can't believe that there wasn't any live material shot during the 70's that could have been included. Several years ago there was a 30th anniversary Steve Miller-Fly like an eagle package that came out with the remixed and remastered disc in 5.1 & extra songs, interviews and a full concert included. The extras in floyd Disc set are of no real interest too me, so really the cd's and Blu-ray are the only value here and I learned an expensive lesson and won't repeat it with the other immersion sets.
When I bought several Dvd Audio discs I realized there would be only a small amount of video included on the disc but I was fine with that fact. I was bying the disc for the great sound in surround, but when I put out over a hundred dollars I expect the full package deal. I guess I will have too wait for DSOTM & the WALL too come out on Blu-ray in 5.1 and buy them separately. I own DSOTM on sacd, but would still like the Bluray version also & especially the Quad mix.
on October 10, 2003
I recognize that there are a lot of WYWH fans out there, but this album doesn't stand comfortably in the pantheon of great Floyd albums. Meddle stands comfortably between Floyd's early work and later music. Dark Side Of The Moon sounds like Floyd's high water mark. None of their albums afterward lives up to the standards of these two albums, not even WYWH or The Wall. A big part of the reason that WYWH and The Wall have become classics is that they sold a lot of copies. Neither have the spirit, however, of their best albums.
WYWH is not without its moments. Shine On... and the title track deserve the airplay they get on AOR radio stations.
Nevertheless, WYWH is not as strong conceptually as DSOTM and musically as Meddle. Once a band records its classics, it always has to keep up with them. WYWH comes close, but I suspect the reason it doesn't is that Roger Waters assumed more control on this album and further Floyd albums really became vehicles for his creativity. In other words, Floyd begins to sound less and less like a band...beginning with this album.
on August 26, 2003
Pink Floyd's nineth studio album "Wish You Were Here" is very much same kind of material as "Dark Side of the Moon" which was released before this album. There's some things that aren't similar to that album.
a)The songs are much longer. There is 44 minutes and 24 seconds but only 4 songs.
b)There is annoying sounds like computer or whatever machine sounds in "Welcome to the Machine".
c)There is too long solos
1. Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Part One) (13:40): This song has a good but a little bit boring start. It may have a beautful melody but an ordinary listener wants to hear some lyrics. You have to wait over 5 minutes that somethin' happens. The lyrics are beautiful and so is the chorus but this song is much too long. There is too much guitar solos and instrumental parts. This track includes the parts 1-5 from the song. 4.5/5
2. Welcome To The Machine (7:30): In my opinion this is the worst song in this CD. There's annoying computes sounds. The melody is too monotonic. Only the short chorus gives me somethin' speacial. There's also boring lyrics. The instrumental part between the A parts is also too long and boring. 2.25/5
3. Have A Cigar (5:07): This has maybe good lyrics and vocals but the melody is too monotonic like in the track "Welcome to the Machine". This song reminds me of "Dark Side of the Moon" album the most but isn't that good. 3.25/5
4. Wish You Were Here (5:34): The best track in the album. Great lyrics and great vocals. The track isn't boring or too long. This is a classic! A peaceful song musically but not lyrically. 4.75/5
5. Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Part Two) (12:31): Parts 6-9 from the song don't give anything interesting. There's the chorus again and that same instrumental thing. 3.25/5
This album doesn't give anything new except from long instrumental solos. There should be more songs and the songs should be shorter. This isn't a classic album like "The Wall" and "Dark Side of the Moon". Those albums and the collection "Echoes" are all you need if you aren't a big Pink Floyd fan.
on August 22, 2003
'Wish You Were Here' the Pink Floyd's greatest album? 'Wish You Were Here' the greatest album ever? Sorry, I have to disagree. 'Wish You Were Here' is just the greatest could-be Pink Floyd's masterpiece, a potential monster ruined by presence of too much 'filling' moments and by pretentiousness.
I admit here you can find some on the finest notes Floyd ever managed to pull off (and only Floyd could do that) but you will find also so much annoying and inadequate music.
'Shine On You Crazy Diamond part 1' is simply incredible, gorgeous and amazing: Gilmour's guitar notes, Water's inspired lyrics and vocals, saxophone solo... one of the greatest moments in rock music indeed.
And then? 'Welcome To The Machine' and 'Have A Cigar' are two of the worst songs ever written by Waters. In WTM the electronic noises, the boring rhythm guitar and the...keyboard notes make this one of the worst moments in Floyd's catalogue. HAC, sung by Roy Harper in a very uncatchy way, is a very modest bluesy song with nothing interesting in it.
OK, 'Wish You Were Here' is one of the best Waters' ballads, sung by Gilmour in gorgeous way and performed in not pretentious way. But the final reprise 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond part 2' is absolutely disappointing, more pretentious than inspired, with all instrumental parts that sound like a weak imitation of those you can listen to in 'part 1'.
This album is overrated and shows how only Waters could contribute new ideas, while Gilmour/Wright/Mason seem not to be interested anymore. From this point of view this album is completely different from 'Dark Side Of The Moon', which shows what Floyd could do when they 'really' worked together.
on March 22, 2003
I'm gonna get [razzed] for this rating, but I think *** is quite fair for this album (and *** ain't so damn bad to begin with).
Pink Floyd has had a spotty history, album-wise. "Wish You Were Here" had the unenviable task of following-up "Dark Side Of The Moon" and by over two years, almost a death-knell in the 70s.
Some people trashed "WYWH" because it "only had five tracks", which is no indicator of how good an album is (Jethro Tull's "Thick As A Brick" and "A Passion Play" are each only one track). In this case, though, it was apparent Waters, Gilmour, Mason and Wright didn't have a wealth of song ideas to mine, so over half of this album is used for the repetitious homage to original bandmate, Syd Barrett. Musically, "Shine On..." takes its time with some tasteful guitar fills from Gilmour and decent synth noodling from Wright, but it all doesn't add up to much. In fact, you hear pretty much just these two "Floyds" throughout the album and little evidence of Mason or Waters.
The middle of the album is the best part. "Welcome To The Machine", while kinda shallow, is at least fun to listen to. "Have A Cigar" is fun too, but guest vocalist Roy Harper sounds so much like Roger Waters I'm not sure why anyone bothered. The title track, while still about Barrett, is a nice acoustic-based lament that the listener can relate to on their own level.
The main drawback of "WYWH" is Pink Floyd had fallen back into their pattern of mucking about with studio noises and electronic experimentation (a la "Atom Heart Mother" and "Ummagumma"). "DSOTM" and "Animals" muck about too, but the results are very cohesive and the songs sound structured. "WYWH" just doesn't knock you over the head. It sounds like the band, in the foreboding shadow of "Dark Side..." just threw up their hands and cranked out what they had.
I feel like a mean old schoolmarm where 'Floyd is concerned; I'm only hard on them because I know they're capable of so much more.
On the bright side, this, along with all the other 'Floyd remasters, sure sounds great compared to the older CDs. The album art, again by Hipgnosis, is, as always, first-rate.
on April 12, 2002
This CD is not for everyone. Just on the basis that this recording consists of five tracks may put off many people. And the fact that the ten movements of Shine On You Crazy Diamond take up two of these tracks may shock casual and non fans a little more.
However, there is a great deal of creative instrumentation between Gilmour, Wright, Mason, and Waters throughout this release. The blends of textures and effects especially by Mr. Gilmour are at an all time high. Some creative shifts in rhythm and tempo are also performed quite well.
Getting to the songs themselves, all of them are quite long. Wish You Were Here is my personal favorite with touching lyrics and a beautiful chord progression. Gilmour's vocals are indeed heartfelt.
Have A Cigar, is a cool bluesy romp featuring some amusing lyrics and good singing by Roy Harper. Love the line,"By The Way Which One's Pink?"
Welcome To The Machine is a bit creepy for my tastes with a fairly weak song structure. The singing is a bit grating although I will admit the blend between the guitars and the synthesizers is fairly interesting. At nine minutes plus, the tune almost tries my patience.
Now getting to the Shine On You Crazy Diamond suites. Strong on atmospherics and textures. Obviously a little long but I do like the little changes in rhythms most particularly on the final track before the vocal part starts. The different isntrumental solos offer a good change of pace.
Big time Pink Floyd fans will not go wrong with this record, but casual fans should pursue this carefully. If you don't mind extended instrumental passages, you might want to try Wish You Were Here out for size.
Also, a message to those fans who think Pink Floyd can do no wrong, please read this commentary carefully. I take a non biased stand on this review. I am not a fan nor a Pink Floyd basher. I state what I like and don't like about the CD and merely guide the reader to understand what you like in music and if Pink Floyd's style is appropriate along your own guidelines. ...
on March 16, 2002
The funeral like dirge for the beginning of SOYCD all the way up to the jazz solo at the end pretty much encapsulates the whole album for me, oh, plus Wish You Were Here and Welcome to the Machine, of course. The other two songs just dont seem to match up with the quality of these 3 songs here. Furthermore, the 3 songs in the middle just dont seem to fit, this includes Wish You Were Here. It's like getting a sudden jerk after the dreamlike and languid atmosphere of the first song. Although Welcome to the Machine is a good song on its own, it just sounds too sharp after SOYCD and surprisingly so considering its a synth-based song.
However, my main contention with this album is with the last suite of music, the second part of SOYCD(6-10). After hearing the exceptionally haunting first part(1-5) it somehow isnt as musically interesting as the first section. I actually get bored listening to the first few minutes of the tracks, the interesting bits only start to pick up near the beginning of the vocals and reaching a climax as Waters' starts singing but that isnt good enough to make up for the lack of good music in the second part overall.
This is partly due to the weak bridge which doesnt provide a good connection to the last suite of music. The bridge has good music, (how can one have any complaints about Wish You Were), its the flow of the bridge to the last song ( which i assume should be the climax of the album )which is weak. It does not set the stage for a grand finale rather Wish You Were Here seem like the defining end for this album. The last suite just sounds like a bad interpretation of the first half.
Overall, i say it is a good album. Definitely in my top 50. I would give this album 3 and a half stars really. And i do recommend this album to everyone, the three songs ( SOYCD P1, WTTM, WYWH ) are good enough a reason to buy it.
on November 27, 2001
With "Dark Side of the Moon," Pink Floyd had finally produced something that was accessible and commercial without sacrificing any of their moody mellowness or sound experimentation. "Wish You Were Here" falls short of this high mark. Not that it doesn't have its good points. The title track is a masterpiece, both as a song and a recording, and the album's concept (about the rise and fall of a young rocker who is exploited by the industry, much like former Floyd front man Syd Barrett)is a good one. Snippets of Roger Waters' careful songwriting come through, especially in "Have a Cigar." Pieces of "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" approach the moving grandeur of "Dark Side." (And, for what it's worth, the album boasts great cover art work, as do many Floyd releases.) Unfortunately, the Floyd has slowed the whole thing down to a snail's pace; you will really need to be in a VERY mellow mood to sit still through all of this. There are some LOOOONG passages of atmospheric sounds and careful but ultimately pointless jamming that contribute little to the songs they purport to be a part of. The overall effect is at best a bit pretentious and at worst boring as sin. Diehard Floyd fans may get off on this stuff, but the average record buyer had best know what he's getting into. The song "Welcome to the Machine" seems pretty weak now in its unoriginal attack on big systems (which George Orwell was doing in the 1940s already, and which Pink Floyd would handle better than this on "The Wall".) So, what we have here are some good ideas that were dragged out into an entire album, when we could have used a few more melodies and lyrics instead to give it a more solid footing.
on June 4, 2001
I consider myself I die-hard Pink Floyd fan, and when I have money, I buy their CDS. Unfortunatly, being a student, I don't have a lot to spare and have only managed to buy "The Wall" "Dark Side of the Moon" and "Wish you were Here." If you love these guys like I do and want all their CDS, "Wish you were here" is something you should have, but if you're new to PF, or if you're trying to choose between "Wish" and one of their other CDs, go with the other. "The Wall" is amazing; I worship "The Wall" and will fight with someone for hours if they tell me Pink's other CDs are better; "Dark Side" is awesome, too; the lyrics are chilling and soothing at the same time, and the musical work is absoloutly amazing.
"Wish you were Here" unfortunatly lags on both. The music isn't bad, but it's a little flatter than the other two CDs; it's steadier and dosn't have any of those wild and strange fluctuations or soaring crescendos. The lyrics don't make as much sense, and have less of a message. For example, the song "Welcome to the Machine" has a good premise and an intelligent idea behind it, but check out these lyrics:
"You dreamed of a big star, he played a mean guitar He always ate in the steak bar He loved to drive in his Jaguar"
Pink Floyd is great because they aren't conventional, but these lyrics sound like something a fifth-grader would write. If you want lyrics, great lyrics that you can relate to, grab "The Wall" and if you want incredible sound go for "Dark Side of the Moon". I'm not trying to say "Wish" is bad; it isn't. The title song is superb, I do love that that one, but the others are sort of mediocre, which is not what I expect from Pink. I'm glad I bought it, but I wish I'd waited until I had better stock of their stuff. I love it cause it's Pink Floyd, but it's not their best.
on May 24, 2000
It took guts for Pink Floyd to go back to their roots and indulge in long, drawn out instrumentals, following the huge commercial success of "Dark Side of the Moon". For that matter, it took guts for Floyd to avoid making an album with the same ambiance and madcap theme of "Dark Side"; it's good they chose not to rest on their laurels. Floyd respond to their crushing success with the multiple-part "Shine on You Crazy Diomand", where instead of role-playing Syd Barrett's confused mind, as on "Dark Side", they memoralize the man, giving thanks for his influence and friendship. Missing from "Shine On" is the choppiness/eerieness of such earlier opus Floyd efforts as "Interstellar Overdrive" and "Echoes" (which I actually miss). By 1975, Pink Floyd have fully mastered their craft, settling down with Gilmour's smooth licks and a more pedestrian sound. Compared to their early days, this sound is sort of lounge-like. Still, Roger Waters lyrics speak volumes for Syd's influence: "Remember when you were young (obligatory laugh), "you shone like the sun". "Darkside" sort of capitalized on Syd's madness, almost exploiting it in a way. This album portrays him in a sunnier light. Skip the dull "Welcome to the Machine", which is purposely mechanical, grating, and actually contrived sounding. Far more engaging is the banter of a party right after, with earnest socializing that is somehow isolating and lonesome. The classic "Have a Cigar", curiously sung by label mate Roy Harper, is not to be missed, as the deeply wary and cynical Waters takes a stab at the trappings of fame and the clueless record execs in charge. That leads to the final classic, "Wish You Were Here", a Floyd staple and a love song to (surprise, surprise) Syd Barrett. It's a tender ballad that deserves all the airplay in the world for Floyd. Despite huge commercial success, this album is generally a letdown; other lesser known Floyd albums are much more worthy. Even Pink Floyd have admitted that "Wish You Were Here" was made during a bored and disenfranchised period of their career. Perhaps that accounts for the overall listless feel. Still, they plowed along under the increasing dictatorship of Roger Waters, which would predictably plague the band for years to come.