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Sobering but practical, Avril 30 2008
unChristian was a sobering look at how we are perceived by those who see us from the outside in. The key to this little book is that it not only points out the problems people observe, but it offers solutions from leading pastors and thinkers so that we can put our faith to work and change this trend!
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A Christian view from the inside the 'convent', Juil 25 2009
Before you read my review, let me give you my spiritual background: For the first 45 years of my life I identified myself as a faithful and dogmatic born-again Christian. During this time I read as many apologetics and other Christian literature that I could get my hands on (400-500 books)and listened to thousands of lectures and sermons on the truths of the fundamental religion. During this entire era, however, there were major tenets that failed to pass the 'common sense' test that I and most people live their lives by. Approximately 25 years ago I decided that it was time to put aside all my previous experiences, no longer see myself under the 'Christian tent', and to set off to find the 'truth of God'. This search has taken me through all other world religions, quantum physics, cosmology, metaphysics, philosophy, mathematics and a thorough review of the Bible. My life, I am sure, will end before this trek is completed. Because of these diverse dual backgrounds I, hopefully, can give a broader review of this book than most other readers.
Kinnaman preformed a very precise and accurate view of what is wrong with today's Christianity, but he did so from 'inside the walls of the convent'. Or more plainly stated, he did so through the eyes of a person fully committed to the current Christian mores. His views that the Christian religion is being viewed as homophobic, judgmental, hypocritical, close-minded, hostile to persons outside their circle, uninformed and shallow all ring true and are taking place outside of the convent walls in a growing manner. The lay person's concept of Christianity and how the church actually views itself lie in exact opposite directions. While the author's intentions are pure, based on his belief system, in his search for a way inwhich his church can become more relevant in our present world, his solutions seem very dogmatic and superficial in themselves. Instead of examining the potentially false or questionable beliefs that the church has inflicted upon the world, he, instead, reinforces that fact that the religion itself has no faults and, instead, it is only in the manner which it is being portrayed to the world that is wrong. In other words, if the church members would learn to 'sell' their beliefs in a more Christ-like manner, the world would suddenly crowd to their doorsteps. While Christian 'salesmenship' may, in fact, have become more "I-centered" than in past decades, this is only a small part of the reason that Christianity has lost its credibility.
My research over the past 25+ years has shown me that the major problems that the Christian church is now experiencing have very little to do with 'salesmenship' and far more to do with 'relevance'. Three decades ago the Christian church aligned itself with the Republican party and that under this agreement both groups would benefit; the Republicans would become elected because the Christians would turn out and, because of that, the Republicans, in turn, would actively deal with a handful of issues that the Moral Majority deemed critical. Those issues were abortion rights, disallowance of homosexuality in the political arena and the clear definition of life as beginning at the moment conception. These are the three issues that drove the faithful to the polls. It was done, on their sincere part, as a way of bringing Bible 'truths' to the civic arena. As history has now shown us, the Republican party, however, never had any intention of resolving these issues. For if they did they would, in turn, lose their immediate identification with the conservative Christians that elected them into office. In other words, if they had actively dealt with the Christian issues, the Christians would no longer be motivated to go to the voting booths for them; their problems would have already have been solved and they wouldn't need the Republicans any longer. Because of this allegiance with the Republicans over the years, however, the reputation of the Christians has become badly damaged from its association with the slander, corruption and lack of ethics that go with any political party. Any and all of the mistakes that the party has made, all of the war-mongering they have done and their failure to be the 'family-values' party has all come back and has been laid at the feet of the Christian leaders who put them in alliance with the party in the first place. The Republicans, because of this allegiance, did not become any more moral. The Christians, however, were now viewed as becoming more amoral.
Other reasons for the waning of the 'popularity' of Christianity with the younger generation is equally as far-reaching. Science has made great strides in expanding our knowledge of the physical universe around us over the past decade. For Christianity to not only ignore these findings, because they don't fit into their Biblical definitions of the world, but to mock them outright not only smacks of dogmatism but ignorance as well. Every creationist 'science' museum that is opened that professes the age of the earth as being 7K years old is ridiculed by anyone who has ever read a book beyond the level of "Dick and Jane". Each time the church promotes the existence of 'Satan' and fails to examine the psychosocial causes for the world's social problems proves themselves to be people who grab onto easy, fairy-tale like answers for very complex and deep-seated problems. The church's continued identity with the Republican party removes from them the concepts of anti-war, anti-poverty and social compassion which they have stood for over the ages. These are the concepts that this particular political party has always refused to deal and identify with. Everytime one of their religious leaders attacks a progressive politician simply because he/she is not conservative, they make a mockery out of their premise of being 'loving and compassionate Christians'. And lastly, each time they intimate that the problems of the world are caused by God being angry at only those persons who do not identify themselves as Christians, the antagonism that the rest of the world feels for these baseless and empty remarks increases geometrically (Katrina, 9/11 and the AIDS epidemic are current examples).
The author and other Christian leaders must come to realize that if the church's goals are that more and more people should come to believe in the 7 tenets of evangelicalism, I am afraid that they are doomed to failure. People are becoming much more well informed and that, unlike what the church wishes to think, is a very GOOD thing. For it is only with educated and clear thinking minds that people can reach objective decisions for their lives. Blind faith has historically proven to lead countless populations down blind allies and more soldiers have died under the banner of 'their God' than any other cause. Unless the Christian religion can alter its belief system to incorporate scientific facts as they innerrantly reveal themselves, the Christian church will go the way of the pope that imprisoned Copernicus for stating that the earth was not flat. The mere 10% of the American population who label themselves as being evangelical, born-again, fundamental Christians will never grow beyond this insignificant mark. It will never disappear altogether either for there will always be a group of people who refuse to examine facts that exist outside of their dogmatic belief system. "Faith in spite of facts" will always be their credo.
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Another 'open season' slag on Christians what else is new?, Nov. 30 2008
Just picked this copy up @ a local dealer actually( not Amazon) nonetheless I always find it somewhat bemusing @ how petulantly & dogmatic people can continue to reveal their Ignorance & be completely unabashed in so doing! I have only just started reading & did a few ' pick throughs ' to get a feel for its general attitude. About what I expected. Uninformed opinions by an undisciplined younger generation who know everything about everything & are (in most of their own eyes) exceedingly wonderful & superior in intellect & thought & mores over their elder predecssor boomer parent generation( of whom I am a member.Just 2 quick quotes with my response if you please: pg 124:"A new generation thinks of Christianity as devoid of spiritual vibrancy, parochial ,small minded, and ignorant.:"----talk about the pot calling the kettle black! I am also very much mystified & amazed @ how people ( of any age group, really) are so quick to blame others for whats wrong in the world--'don't blame me, its you old 'fuddy-duddies' casing all the wars & famines & intolerance etc, etc etc. Judging by some of the reported Surveyed Opinion Answers to ??Pre-selected questions I really wonder WHO IS IN FACT the REAL Intolerant surrounding some of the Issues listed in this book? GOD holds His People & children to a Higher Standard that is True , However the Sin scarred people doing all the smoke- blowing cannot claim to be HIM & I do not accept nor Recieve their self -righteous & hypocritical Judgements against people they accuse of these very same faults!None of us are perfect so why do so many of us ( myself included) insist on besmurching, cat calling & " trolling" as I understand this new lingo? IT is NOT the authors I necessarily have the biggest problem with although the way they frame their questions & 'gathered' data I wonder about their motives & agendas. Busters & Mosaics (as the authors prefer to call this new & 'wiser-younger' generation) who have by enlarge never had to fight a war fight for survival or deal with A Lifetime of Stress dealing with everything from fatal illnesses to losses in Romantic Circles or Abrupt Career Endings are in my estimation rather ill-equipped to be making rational 'opinions' about a group or groups of people they less about than they would have me & you to believe. This book speaks of christians as living in a sheltered & unreal world (which in a lot of ways is true--but is also true of most if not everyone who walks this globe)....."a sheltered faith seems out of touch with the intense challenges young people confront." In most situations that is accurate but if you would take the blinders off & read the morning Papers or listen to the average newscast it wouldn't be hard to see a world that is coming apart at the seams & is in need of Radical Change & Help. It would seem to me that wisdom would teach the prudent necessity & desirability to look for solutions. Christians are different only in the fact that they/we look to the Higher Power of GOD through CHRIST to VERY SOON put an end to hostilities & suffering & Usher in His Kingdom with Peace & Love & Righteousness. It will be interesting (if provocative) to read the rest of this Survey of 'Important' data.
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de Dan Kimball
de Chap Clark
de Alan Hirsch
