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  • Paperback: 318 pages
  • Publisher: Routledge; 1 edition (Feb. 9 2001)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0415158613
  • ISBN-13: 978-0415158619
  • Product Dimensions: 2.5 x 14 x 21 cm
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'...Tom Kirsch has written an important, timely, and generous book.' - Peter Homans

About the Author

Thomas B. Kirsch was President fo the International Association of Analytical Psychology form 1989 to 1995, adn President of the Jung Institute of San Fransisco from 1976 to 1978. He currently works in private practice in California, and is a Lecturer in the Department of Psychiatry at Stanford University Medical School.

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38 of 39 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9e243270) out of 5 stars Jung Embodied Aug. 27 2000
By td - Published on
Format: Hardcover
From the beginning of the 20th century Jung championed a secular psychology that also viewed the human as essentially sacred and irreducible and by so doing set himself apart from and against the strictly positivistic science that the western world espoused at and since that time. Jung's ideas, far from succumbing to collective bias and oblivion, have disseminated themselves substantively throughout the entire world for the last 100 years in the form of the many psychologists, psychiatrists, therapists, and professional and lay groups who presently identify themselves with Jung's ideas. Kirsch's book is a history of exactly how and through whom that dissemination has occurred and in whom and in what organizations it resides. Although Kirsch says his is a social and political history and not an intellectual one, that is not entirely correct, for, as he tracks people over time and about the world, he differentiates what aspect of Jung's spirit each tends most to embody (and defend): the philosophical, the clinical, the religious, the archetypal, the developmental. And in this weaving arise the confrontations, conflicts, and confluences that finally shape the ongoing state and living drama of Jungian psychology. No one other than Kirsch could have written this book. His life, like none other, has been part and parcel of the events and people he describes (see the Preface). Far from having become a passive cipher in the play, he has had a hand in its evolution and yet, in his story, he steps outside of the fray to portray its horizons. For a professional within the field itself, like myself, this gives rise to a dual gift: first, an invaluable aid in locating oneself and one's own ideas within the collective of the movement, and second, the spurring of intimations of what lies beyond the knowns of the present Jungian world. Concerning the book itself, Kirsch is a master of the matter of fact. In sweeping but trenchantly accurate statements (the accuracy is the gift) he avers simply what is and what isn't. In a brief paragraph he explains how the introduction of Jung's continental philosophying into England has given rise to a British traditionally empiricist reaction (and then spells out that reaction in the splits and vicissitudes of the English groups). In addressing Jung's monumentally injudicious gaffes of the mid 1930s, he says, "As we analysts know, timing is critical in analysis, and the same holds true for politics" His summing ups share the same precise and parsimonious qualities: "In my experience, almost all Jungians, in addition to amplifying and interpreting dreams, recognize the primarily symbolic nature of the unconscious, the importance of working with the transference/countertransference relationship, and the necessity for maintaining strict professional boundaries." In the reading, lesser known gems fall from the pages from time to time. I did not know that Jung had met Lacan. Kirsch says where and how. Nor did I know that he had spoken in England before 1925 (he gave a seminar in Cornwall in 1923; I do not think it is published as yet). The chapter on Germany alone is worth the price of the book. Kirsch has ferreted out and redacted material in strict temporal sequence that is more complete than any I have read before. This involves the history of Jungian psychology in Germany but, more importantly in my opinion, Jung's relationship to the Nazis. Kirsch is more even-handed and straightforward in his accounts than in any other I have read, including his father's extensive statements on the same subject. And Kirsch (the son) arrives at what feels to be extremely fair judgments, plainly delivered and patently devoid of polemical covering up. A second chapter of particular worth is the last one, "Observations and Conclusions." Again, it is the precision and the matter of factness that make it valuable for seeing in one place and through plain language the present edges of things Jungian. In the foreword, historian Peter Homans says that Kirsch is "generous" in this history. In my opinion, it is true beyond a doubt. Generous in its plethora of material, its reader-friendly expression, and in its sharing of personal information. In its historical place, its importance for the Jungian world resembles in kind the book Bollingen by William McGuire in which he, like Kirsch, fleshes out an intellectual movement related to the Jungian world in the specific details of the persons and places and modus operandi served by the foundation set up (now defunct) by Mary Mellon. Both books make people whose names and writings are synonymous with Jungiana come to full sentient life. Besides Kirsch and McGuire, we have only histories of Jung and his ideas. I highly recommend Kirsch's book as a very interesting read, a source of new information, and a singular documentation of Jungian ideas and their embodiment in the world. For the lay person, even one not familiar with the Jungian world, the book is a history of how a little known psychology - one that is unique and friendlier than probably any other to the spiritual - becomes a part of the culture of nations and the world.
12 of 13 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9e15cc54) out of 5 stars invaluable guide Aug. 23 2000
By A Customer - Published on
Format: Hardcover
The Jungians sets out to describe the social and political history of the Jungian communities throughout the world and accomplishes its aims admirably. It will be the gold standard for historical inquiry into the Jungian movement for decades to come with an informative discussion of the development of every institute and of the contributions of each significant figure in nalytic psychology.
11 of 12 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9e0d212c) out of 5 stars All About the Jungian Movement: Places, People and More July 10 2000
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Format: Hardcover
You will enjoy reading this book!
For the first time there is a telling of the tale of the Jungian movement from the
beginnings in Switzerland to every continent through places, persons, events and
publications. This book will leave you with a new and larger understanding of a
story that was previouly known mostly in fragments. Included are colorful nuances
and first hand accounts, even a few never before published photographs, from the
author who grew up in the midst of the Jungians and has been one of its most
prominent contributors.
Whether you read this book for the fun and enjoyment of it or for professional
research, you will find a wealth of facts, insights and useful references to places
and persons you probably know and books you probably have read, and you may find
yourself referring back to specific sections, places and persons many times.
I recommend this book highly!
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9e14ae94) out of 5 stars A Jungian Classic April 13 2010
By Steven Herrmann - Published on
Format: Paperback
Steven B. Herrmann, PhD, MFT
Author of "Walt Whitman: Shamanism, Spiritual Democracy, and the World Soul"

In The Jungians: A Comparative and Historical Perspective Jungian analyst Thomas Kirsch brings to light some important facts about Jung and clears up some controversial subjects. He tells herein the history of the movement of analytical psychology and its growth throughout the post-modern world. Published in the year 2000 this is the most comprehensive book on the field of analytical psychology available and one of the best resource books to provide readers with a clear picture of the origins of the Jungian Institutes and Analytical Psychology Clubs in Zurich and the United Kingdom, the United States and Canada, Europe, Israel, Latin America, Australia and New Zealand, Eastern Europe and Russia, and emerging groups in Asia. This is a great book and it reads like a good story because it is a book which spans Kirsch's lifetime and in a sense, as he says in his Preface, he became a part of it without his knowing it. There are so many pieces of information that I found enlightening but one of the most interesting is that the first public lecture Jung gave that cast the seeds of dissention with Sigmund Freud occurred in America (60). The book contains a chapter on the IAAP and a valuable chapter on the history of Sandplay. He speaks clearly about highly charged issues, such as the splits that have occurred in the various Institutes and the tensions between the symbolic and developmental schools of analysis. He handles the controversial issue of Jung's alleged anti-Semitism with critical acumen and in a very fair and unbiased way. In his final Observations and Conclusions chapter, Kirsch agrees with C. G. Jung and former analysts Adolph Guggenbühl-Criag, Dr. Joseph L. Henderson, Donald F. Sandner, and a number of other post-Jungian analysts and psychotherapists that mental health practitioners all share some ancestral link as a sacred lineage inherited from shamanism (255), yet, he also points out the dangers of making such a connection. While he says the word "shamanism" should only be linked with analytical psychology with great care, all post-Jungians can be said to share to a grater or lesser degree, Kirsch admits, some core values, gifts, and attitudes that have been transmitted from shamanism. This kind of careful consideration is one of Kirsch's greatest attributes as a writer. Kirsch ends his masterful study by saying at the opening of the new millennium that it is impossible to predict what will happen to analytical psychology in the unknowable future and he even questions whether there will be a classification of therapists called Jungians (256). This book is a valuable contribution to any one's bookshelf. It is really important that he wrote it. My only wish in writing this review ten years after its publication is that it be updated to give students of analytical psychology and psychoanalysis a way to catch up with the remarkable changes taking place today subsequent to the publication of Jung's Red Book.
7 of 10 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9e14ae88) out of 5 stars A Must Read Aug. 9 2000
By adolf guggenbühl - Published on
Format: Hardcover
This is a must for every psychiatrist and psychologist who is interested in the history of psychiatry and psychology, and for every layman who is interested in these fields.