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  • Audio CD (Dec 1 2010)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Koch International
  • ASIN: B00064WSNW
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Audio Cassette  |  DVD Audio  |  LP Record  |  DVD
  • Average Customer Review: 4.7 out of 5 stars 50 customer reviews
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1. Elephant Talk
2. Frame by Frame
3. Matte Kudasai
4. Indiscipline
5. The Hun Ginjeet
6. The Sheltering Sky
7. Discipline
8. Matte Kudasai (alternative version)

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With this 1981 LP, King Crimson became one of the few bands to release a classic in three different decades. This was their highest-charting LP (#45) in 11 years, and that Fripp/Belew guitar interplay still dazzles; includes a bonus alternate version of Matte Kudesai !

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The title says it all and the title track further demonstrates the concept as the band runs through a series of incredibly intricate, ever-changing guitar patterns and time signatures. When Robert Fripp resurrected the King Crimson banner for this 1981 release, he assembled an amazingly skilled--indeed, disciplined--group of musicians. But this record is not so much about skill as it is about transforming the complex into the beautiful. By turns explosive ("Indiscipline"), driving ("Thela Hun Ginjeet"), and quietly meditative ("The Sheltering Sky"), Adrian Belew (whose vocals and lyrics reflect his tenure with the Talking Heads) injects a degree of manic humor to the proceedings. All this technical proficiency would be for nothing if these weren't such wonderfully compelling songs. --Percy Keegan --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.


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By A Customer on March 30 2005
Format: Audio CD
This is the first album from the 1980s incarnation of the band. Tony Levin (bass) and Adrian Belew (vocals, guitar, lyricist) join long-timers Robert Fripp (guitar) and Bill Bruford (drums) to make for the best set of musicians to grace the band. The sound is much leaner than before, with hints of the pop-ish sound that was to come. This album doesn't have a bad track. "Thela Hun Ginjeet" is a rocking guitar over a breathless narrative; "Matte Kudasai" is hauntingly beautiful; and "Frame by Frame", "Elephant Talk" and "Indiscipline" are very good too. The interplay of two guitars, percussion and bass is magical throughout, and Belew's vocals complement it perfectly. There are two instrumentals, and there's not an indulgent moment or sound on either. "Discipline" and the follow-up "Beat" are definite musts for your CD collection.
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It's very hard to describe this album, because it doesn't really fit into any genre easily. If you're a KC fan and you don't own this album, then you are in for a treat. If you have never heard of King Crimson and you are an audiophile who can appreciate a great recording on it's own merits, you are in for a treat. If somebody told you about this album and you have never heard King Crimson and you are a fan of grooving, polyrhythmic, adventurous, genre-defying music played by world-class rock musicians, then you are in for a real treat. To top it off, Adrian Belew is a great vocalist. All very good reasons to check it out.
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This is the album that defines the "before and after" for the Fripp-style musicianship that so many people love, and so many alt-rock groups have tried (sometimes successfully) to replicate. Rhythmic patterns, guitar play, Belews's Talking-Heads-influenced outpouring (Brian Eno had earlier produced "Remain in Light", an album that is the mirror image of this one, where Belew did great work), layers and layers of guitar and pseudo-guitar, Tony just being there with the right note, Bill hitting the drums as if the Final Judgment had just sent a summons.
This is as close to perfection as anything that came out in the early 1980s. Better than everything Crimson did in the 1970s, which is a high bar already, and pretty much anticipating much of what was to come. "Beat" and "Three of a Perfect Pair" are great but never as good as this one.
With the entire British scene having fallen to pieces in the wake of punk, reggae, Elvis Costello, and that empty feeling of not being able to replace greatness (Led Zep, Peter Gabriel, Steve Winwood, The Who, The Stones, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck: none of them was getting any younger) with pretensions (not just a pun about The Pretenders... U2 anybody? Duran Duran?), this album is a pretty lonely gem for its time.
Yet it is not for everybody though. For people who need neat melodies and comforting harmonies, satisfaction may come at too big of an expense. For the thinking person, this record is maybe the greatest achievement of its decade.
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This will be a very short review since I am sure millions of people have purchase this one already, I am just slow.
Again, I never got this one for the same reason as my previous review, I got all those songs. but I thought, wait, it has five starts staidy and all the review say that it is kc at is best, and here I am I have never listen to those songs recorded in a studio,
Now, I may be missing how this adventure has begin.
And all those reviewer that gave it five stars were right, it was such of a mgic and new for the time kind of combination of so many thing.
I was a new sound, something that maybee no one knew that it was going to be the hits of years after years.
so, if like me you did not listen to it, go gfor it, you will be amaze by what again Robert Fripp took a chance put out something that could have gone south, but did Robert fripp ever care, he does what he wants and he is not sorry for 9it.
so, yes, go and just get it, you will not be sorry.
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After listening to "Red" I decided to buy the whole set. Great new remastered version of the best eight classical KC albums.

However, I can understand making a DVD-Audio version even in 2009, but in 2011 this does not make a lot of sense. How many of us still have a player compatible with this format? I would definitely prefer a Super-Audio CD or a lossless Blu-Ray version, but Fripp is the guy who always makes it in his own way and now we have to accept his decision.

Anyway, even 24/48 version gives you a great sound quality.

Another thing: bonus tracks may be different on CD and DVD versions. Even though it is not a big deal, why not to make it more uniform?
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I think this is a really great album. Most King Crimson albums are the type where you have to be into the band and listen to the album repeatedly before you can truly appreciate the music. Discipline, however, is more easily digestable. Truly awesome guitar work by Fripp and Belew make most of the songs here classic. Discipline is a fantastic instrumental. Right up there with Red and Larks' Tongues in Aspic. Probably the best song (at least the easiest to like) on the CD is Elephant talk. This, however, is where I have a big problem with the vocals. It just sounds like such weak singing (I know, it's not supposed to be sung, properly speaking, but listen to a live version of this song if you want to be blown away by Belew's voice). The live version on Vrooom Vrooom just ruined this studio recorded version for me. The guitar is (how to describe it? spacy? rythmatic?): Cool in this song and most of the other tracks. Instrumentally, (and vocally on some songs, not all) this is a fantastic piece of work. I can listen to it all the way through and grin the entire time (all the songs are along a similar line of thought and it sounds like a true Album, unlike their previous masterpiece Red, where the musical style varys wildly from track to track). Recommended to all music lovers.
Side Note: It took me a while to figure out that there's actually a bonus track on this. I kept thinking that Discipline sounded identical to Matte Kudesai because Discipline is listedas the last track on the CD. The last track is actually an alternate version of Matte Kudesai and is on the CD case, but not with the other tracks.
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