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The Myth of the Muslim Tide: Do Immigrants Threaten the West? Hardcover – Aug 21 2012

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  • Hardcover: 208 pages
  • Publisher: Knopf Canada; 1st Edition edition (Aug. 21 2012)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0307362078
  • ISBN-13: 978-0307362070
  • Product Dimensions: 14.6 x 2.2 x 21.7 cm
  • Shipping Weight: 340 g
  • Average Customer Review: 3.8 out of 5 stars 4 customer reviews
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A Publishers Weekly Top 10 Politics Book [Fall 2012]
 
“Doug Saunders may be on his way to becoming the most important journalist in the Canadian mainstream media.... In a cool-headed manner, Saunders dismantles...claims one at a time with a relentless onslaught of facts.... The Myth of the Muslim Tide is a welcome antidote [to Islamophobia] and for that reason alone, it deserves wide readership.”
The Georgia Straight
 
“Elegantly written and important.”
iPolitics
 
“Convincing…. The Myth of the Muslim Tide should be welcomed in necessary public debates.”
The Globe and Mail
 
“Nuanced, informative…. Saunders’ approach is refreshingly levelheaded and fact-based…. An invaluable contribution to the contemporary debate over Muslim immigration and integration into Western communities.”
Kirkus Reviews
 
“Cogent and timely.”
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About the Author

Doug Saunders is the former European Bureau Chief of the Globe and Mail and the author of Arrival City: The Final Migration and Our Next World, which won the Donner Prize, and which the Guardian said "may be the best popular book on cities since Jane Jacobs's The Death and Life of Great American Cities half a century ago." He has won four National Newspaper Awards. Saunders lives in Toronto.
 

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I am biased of course, but this book is not just about Muslims, but about how humanity tends to repeat its mistakes, how we all disguise our own prejudice. an amazing read.
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Congratulations to Doug Saunders for raising a voice of calm and reason against hysteria about Muslim immigration to the West. His meticulous reporting should reassure anyone fretting that Muslims are set to conquer the world by ideological intent and demographic inevitability. If you harbour any such anxieties, this book is well worth reading. For most of us living with Muslim neighbours, we already know that this fear is illusory, fanned by fringe elements of the media to the benefit of only their own book sales. In fact, the author begins each chapter with quotations from popular alarmists, then systematically demolishes their claims. I found this format to be powerful and convincing.
What I found most original and interesting about this book was how it places the current islamophobia in historical context. Saunders demonstrates nicely how prejudice against an influx of potentially dangerous “others” has recurred throughout modern Western history, only to be ultimately washed away by the peaceful forces of integration into a prosperous society. The ironic sense of “tide” in the title thus becomes apparent only when you finish reading the book, or at least the middle of its three sections.
The final section, “What we should worry about”, offers politically correct suggestions about how better education and job opportunities would help prevent extremist violence. Those measures would improve life for all of us. What is only tangentially addressed here, and I was hoping would be further explored, is how a tiny minority of second-generation immigrants are indoctrinated and enabled to act out violently against the West. As Saunders points out, these extremists tend to be well educated and integrated into western society. It seems to me that this is something we should worry about. Maybe another book can address that, which is why I withhold one star in rating this one.
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The author appears to be trying to prove a generalization on a global basis. It is somewhat obvious that Muslims immigrating to Canada and the United States for the right reasons are no threat whatever. The author appears to have traveled extensively and has done much research on immigration statistics. However, he seriously misrepresents many scholarly authors completely out of context to support his case. His misrepresentations are so outrageous that I question whether he has read those authors thoroughly. He has ignored, or is simply blind to the growing intensity and power of Islamic extremists in Muslim countries and the infiltration of the West by their operatives. Moreover, these extremist operatives are a serious threat to the Muslims the author is trying to support. They have immigrated to Canada and the US to escape the tyranny of, and abuse by political Islam. Is this book a reflection of "forgive him Lord for he knows not..." OR in the words of Bertrand Russell, "He who observes a crime in silence, commits it."
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Sanders does a first rate job of arguing (and backing that argument with facts) that the fears of Muslim immigration among Europeans and North Americans is groundless. Bravo!
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HASH(0xa74653c0) out of 5 stars History, Science and Statistics - All in One Jan. 26 2013
By Shah Alam - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
The one thing that stands out in "The Myth of the Muslim Tide" is that it's not based on the author's personal whims or views: it's based on exhaustive research and the derived statistics. It delves deep in to the history of immigration and assimilation from as far back as 200 years.

Reading this book had me better educated not only about the myths of the current immigration tide of Muslims but also on the history of Catholic and Jewish immigration to US and Western Europe. Comparing and correlating that background with the analysis of the current statistical data, the author very ably and logically concludes that the fears of the Muslim tide are over blown. The chapter "We have been here before" draws an excellent comparison of similarities between the fears and myths of earlier migrations and that of the current one of Muslims.

Let me make an honest admission here. I am a Muslim immigrant myself and had almost started to believe somewhat in the fears expressed by those who said that Muslims were working on an agenda - that of having the entire host society succumb to the Sharia law - and it's only after reading this book I realized that such reservations were no more than hallucination.

I would recommend this book to all who have reservations about the growing Muslim population and culture among their midst and would go beyond: I would seriously suggest that a condensed version of this book be made part of the curriculum for grade 9 to 10 students so that they can enter their adult life equipped with facts rather than fallacies.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa7465414) out of 5 stars Solid Book based on Data Nov. 20 2013
By Joseph F. Leavitt - Published on Amazon.com
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Excellent Book. Saunders does a great job of countering the popular fear that many seem to have about the "threats" that Muslims bring to the "West" by providing an overwhelming amount of empirical data. The only downside is that it can sometimes be somewhat repetitive and somewhat data overload (but would rather have it lean this way than the other). Great book to challenge misinformed perceptions.

One example is the fact that Mohammed is the most popular name given to sons in Britain. Saunders does a good job of explaining that over 50% of Muslims give their son this name. Also, this fact includes counting around 11 or 13 different variations of the name Mohammed.
5 of 7 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa74656f0) out of 5 stars Beneath the surface of the tide metaphor Jan. 21 2013
By Ken Kardash - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
Congratulations to Doug Saunders for raising a voice of calm and reason against hysteria about Muslim immigration to the West. His meticulous reporting should reassure anyone fretting that Muslims are set to conquer the world by ideological intent and demographic inevitability. If you harbour any such anxieties, this book is well worth reading. For most of us living with Muslim neighbours, we already know that this fear is illusory, fanned by fringe elements of the media to the benefit of only their own book sales. In fact, the author begins each chapter with quotations from popular alarmists, then systematically demolishes their claims. I found this format to be powerful and convincing.
What I found most original and interesting about this book was how it places the current islamophobia in historical context. Saunders demonstrates nicely how prejudice against an influx of potentially dangerous "others" has recurred throughout modern Western history, only to be ultimately washed away by the peaceful forces of integration into a prosperous society. The ironic sense of "tide" in the title thus becomes apparent only when you finish reading the book, or at least the middle of its three sections.
The final section, "What we should worry about", offers politically correct suggestions about how better education and job opportunities would help prevent extremist violence. Those measures would improve life for all of us. What is only tangentially addressed here, and I was hoping would be further explored, is how a tiny minority of second-generation immigrants are indoctrinated and enabled to act out violently against the West. As Saunders points out, these extremists tend to be well educated and integrated into western society. It seems to me that this is something we should worry about. Maybe another book can address that, which is why I withhold one star in rating this one.
HASH(0xa7465c0c) out of 5 stars A Needed Book For Our Time March 15 2016
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Given the events of the 2016 election cycle of my country (the United States), I'm happy to have found and read this book.

I'll confess to being a frequent reader of Robert Spencer, Ray Ibrahim, Daniel Pipes and other writers who are critical of Islam. For myself, I thought that this was an important to read to get some balance and perspective on Islamic immigration. I'm very glad I did! This book provides an important demographic and historical background on not just the immigration of Muslims, but the immigration of other groups over the years, and the difficulties of absorbing other groups of immigrants in the past. The balance this book provides for my personal views is indispensable.

Mr. Saunders starts with his own misgivings with his new Muslim neighbors and examines the demographic and historical data that provides the evidence that:

1. We have been here before with other immigrant groups. Irish Catholics in Britain. Jews and Italians in America. Given time, usually within two generations, the immigrants adopt the societal norms of the (for lack of a better term) host country and participate in the economic, community, and political opportunities that the citizens do, at about the same rate as the native born citizens.

2. The truth about Muslim communities is found not in scripture but in action. The Muslims I know and consider friends are not violent. Like me, they're trying to make a living, provide for their families, and give their children the religious training that will serve them well in this life and eternity.

3. While there may be legitimate fears and concerns about Muslim immigration to the West, me must not "let that fear overtake our social harmony, we ought to stop and pay close attention to the well-documented facts about this latest wave of immigration." The author points out that, "we know from tragic historical precedent that a few dark suspicions about a new group of neighbors, combined with a collection of false and misleading facts, can do enormous, irreversible damage to a society."

Overall, the author doesn't gloss over and whitewash the problems within the Muslim community. But he doesn't dwell on them either. If you are looking for negatives, Saunders's book is pretty much all positive. His purpose is to demonstrate that this cycle of immigration, even the immigration of Muslims, is not unusual to any of the Western countries. Since birthrates of immigrants drops once the immigrants settle in and begin to truly assimilate into their adopted countries, the immigrant subpopulations can never really become much more than 10% of the population anyway. Moreover he demonstrates that the immigrant Muslim populations of Great Britain and France have a higher belief in the adopted countries and their ideals than the native born citizens.

Since the book was written in 2012, recent events may open some points for dispute. There are also more than enough "what about…?" questions that can be debated. Also, I'm no expert in population demographics, but I've had enough statistics to say that in my opinion the statistics and demographic data and conclusions are sound. I recommend this book as an important book that people on both sides of the "Muslim tide" argument to not just read, but ponder.
4 of 6 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa74654d4) out of 5 stars well written reminder to look at history when considering the events of the present Jan. 26 2013
By Lois M. Rankin - Published on Amazon.com
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The book is well written in concise, easy to understand language. The author reminds the reader to recall the hysteria or near-hysteria that the wave of Catholic immigration ignited. Saunders points out that because of the uprisings in Arab and N. African countries many Muslims have been stripped of national identity substituting religious identity in its place. Although there are strong elemets of conservatism in the Muslim communities there is an opening up that includes the use of birth control and the education of girls. The book is strong reminder to look at the whol;e picture and be over whelmed by claims without substance.


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