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  • Audio CD (Oct. 5 2004)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Import
  • Label: Lex Records
  • ASIN: B0002V4X8W
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  LP Record
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1. Song Meat
2. I [heart] LA
3. The Long Vein Of The Law
4. Red, White & Blonde
5. Silence...
6. the Hook
7. F.K.O.
8. Eyewash
9. Hand Replacement
10. She
11. Stiff Fruit

Product Description

It is often said that hip-hop is more than the sum of its elements. It is, among other things, also the idea that the most varied elements can make up hip-hop. Here, hip-hop (in the form of rhythmic vocals & drum work) itself turns into an element contributing to yet another amalgam. But while hip-hop is part of the potpourri that is "A New White", it is clearly overshadowed by Subtle's playing with indie rock & IDM staples. Either way, from the not-so-subtle ("The Long Vein of the Law") to the really subtle (the closing "She" & "Stiff Fruit"), this album is an exciting listening experience that will have a hip-hop head wondering what all the lengthy definitions & empty declarations hip-hop has to endure are worth when six people can come along & incorporate it so seamlessly into the greater realm of music.

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Most Helpful Customer Reviews on (beta) HASH(0xa13cc60c) out of 5 stars 7 reviews
12 of 13 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa13e30d8) out of 5 stars I Heart Dose One... Oct. 31 2004
By Kevin Satterwhite - Published on
Format: Audio CD
Six months after releasing the "Ten" album (which I feel is excellent) with Why? & Odd Nosdam under the moniker cLOUDDEAD, Dose One gets with Jel and four other dudes and releases another album worthy of your $15. Subtle's "A New White" is a great album; one that I find is more consistent throughout than previous Dose releases. What I mean by that is not necessarily that it's better than his previous work, just has a better ratio of good to bad songs.

Themselves are Dose's more conventional (though swaying from convention) hip hop group. cLOUDDEAD is Dose's more experimental hip hop (if you consider it hip hop) group. Subtle is right in the middle of both of those groups. You could consider Subtle as Themselves more experimental, or as CLOUDDEAD with more focus. One thing is I find this band to be darker than both.

"I Love L.A.", my personal favorite of the album, has some unusual production for an Anticon outfit. It is melancholy (which isn't totally unusual for Anticon), but it's beautiful all the same. It's got soft acoustic guitars, violins, beauty. This song emphasizes Doses' genius: he knows how to make any music and beat work for himself. "F.K.O." on the other hand is the most straight forward song on the album. It's has the typically great Jel beat, which Dose is well at home with. "Hand-Replacement" is another wonderfully dark song with a very melodic chorus. "Silence..." is another good song with an amazing ending. "Red, White & Blonde" is really unlike anything you've heard from Dose yet, and it works. likened it to material by The Books, though I wouldn't know that reference. The rest of the songs are really good too. "She", "Meat Song", "Eyewash", they're all good. In eleven of the tracks, I found no song I didn't like. On a five star scale system, I'd likely rate every song above a four, which is something I could never do with all Themselves and cLOUDDEAD releases.

If you like cLOUDDEAD & Themselves, you'd like this. Though I wouldn't say more, because I do prefer cLOUDDEAD myself. Being a fan of Dose One is really rewarding. I mean the guy does not stop working, and his visions are fruitful. If you are one of the few people who can stand Dose One's eccentric musical nature, it's positive after postive from there. Buy this album.
HASH(0xa13e312c) out of 5 stars THE Best Subtle album (along with For Hero; For Fool tied IMO) Nov. 21 2012
By SA - Published on
Format: Audio CD
To the guy who said they're trying to be like Bjork... How so? I do not see the correlation in the LEAST. This album is extremely unique and really sets the tone for the rest of the saga of Hour Hero Yes (this is the first entry in the story of Hour Hero Yes, and btw - this is not Subtle's debut album - this is certainly their first polished LP - their first album(s) we're named after the Seasons (much like cLOUDEAD's first album it was a set of short vinyl EPs that became an album) - which became their debute EarthSick. This is actually their sophomore album (and in my opinion, even though EarthSick is awesome, this is the first TRUE Subtle album - it really shows you their true style and it only evolves from here onto For Hero; For Fool and ExitingARM. It's truly a beautiful album and I looooove the music videos done by the SSSSR (one too many s's? haha) animation team for The New White (can be seen on youtube or if you buy the remix album for The New White entitled The Wishingbone) and I reaaaly love the one they did for Mercury Crazy (from For Hero; For Fool). This is really Dose at his absolute most prolific and artistic. Subtle's New White is yet another fantastic addition to Drucker's already damned near perfect discography and quite possibly my favorite they've done - its hard to choose between this and For Hero; For Fool as they're so inter-connected and if listned to back to back - its so cohesive that it's almost one biiiig album. If you havent heard it - do yourself a favor and check Subtle out (even if your not a huge "anticon" fan - subtle is beautiful - every single member is beyond talented - it's amazing they're able to all come together and create such amazing works of art.
HASH(0xa13e3564) out of 5 stars Subtle 6 Aug. 19 2010
By Yreogh - Published on
Format: Audio CD Verified Purchase
This album is beautiful. The artwork itself on the cover is great, and it is just as satisfying to listen to the music as to enjoy the atmosphere the Subtle 6 have tried to make. Their musical stylings are unique, their lyrics are astounding, and this album is an excellent debut.
2 of 4 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa13e354c) out of 5 stars Really amazing album June 27 2005
By Etc - Published on
Format: Audio CD
I've always been into practically anything the Anticon camp puts out there, but this really stands out. I'm a big fan of Dose One's work, and in my opinion, this is the best thing that he's done yet. This has the surreal imagery that showed up on the cLOUDDEAD album Ten (which was also really great), but the production is cleaner and more visceral here. The beats and melodies morph from pretty atmospheric textures intro a driving groove and then fall into almost rock/electronic swells.

To say that this album is ahead of its time is an understatment.

The rapping/singing is in the line of Dose One's characteristic, almost stream of consciousness assault... If you've never heard him before, this album is a great introduction. His voice exudes personality... His delivery covers the whole range, and there are few other vocalists who can sound simultaneously emotional while being sarcastic and almost cartoonish. It really is something that can't be effectively described.

I have no clue what kind of genre this would fall under, but isn't that irrelevent anyway? This music combines so many diverse influences into one cohesive sound - It's hip hop, it's breakbeat, it's rock, it's ambient... it's practically everything, it's something completely different altogether, and it's always good.

I don't know what that one reviewer was talking about.... with it being overly glitch heavy, and then saying that he was gonna break out some Aphex Twin. I doubt this guy was even listening to the same album, and even if he was, at least listen to the actual record instead of some low-quality sound clips off the bleep site before you come on Amazon and spout your uninformed garbage. That guy made this album sound as though it had something in common with Venetian Snares, and that just couldn't be further from the truth (although V Snares is great as well).

Every track is solid, and the album gets better every time you hear it. You will not regret a cent you spend on this album. This album needs to be noticed, and I truly do hope that it is appreciated as a landmark. People will be listening to it slackjawed in 2025 and say "THIS was made in 2005??!?!"
1 of 4 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0xa13e3a08) out of 5 stars stack chairs at your church, for extra money. Oct. 6 2004
By andmeofcouse - Published on
Format: Audio CD
those that know dose, jel, dax, marty, jordan and alex. know. those that don't i recomend you start here, this being their first full length following after four seasonal EP's (spring, summer, autumn, winter) strays from their ever ecliptic style of advant-garde into a more rational explosion. countering between live percussion, guitar, and bass, or electric beat sampling, and a heavy duty Korg. dose delivers his rythmatic sighs and scatter brain delivery, over an incredible, force of style match of 5 other thought prossesors. to often people expect dose to be prolific, and end century old arguments with exhales of his rhymes. this isn't dose, this is Subtle, dose is a fraction. (1/6) indeed they already answered the questions of the world in their four seasons, now they focus on turning their own answers upside down, creating new problems, and hopefully they continue with what they have, expand this world.

giving a fresh breath to music, soon to be cherished by scholars, while they dig up my body 4000 years from now, subtle is an instant treasure don't dig it up later, get it now.