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No More Christian Nice Guy: When Being Nice - Instead Of Good - Hurts Men, Women And Children Hardcover – Aug 30 2005

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  • Hardcover: 224 pages
  • Publisher: Bethany House (Aug. 30 2005)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0764200925
  • ISBN-13: 978-0764200922
  • Product Dimensions: 21.9 x 14.8 x 2.3 cm
  • Shipping Weight: 136 g
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars 1 customer review
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You can live with purpose, meaning, integrity, honesty, love, and faith. It's time to be who you were meant to be.

Tires of seeking other people's approval and how this "disease to please" ruins your life? Fed up with being passive, fearful, and anxious when you wish you were assertive and proactive--the way you see passionate, vital men live? Paul Coughlin unveils a better way with a powerful message that elevates the true biblical model of manhood above the prevailing views of church and culture.

"John Eldredge gave men permission to be 'wild at heart.' Paul Coughlin shows us how to do it. This book is a road map to a larger life."
--Dr Kevin Leman, Bestselling author of The Birth Order Book and Women Who Try Too Hard

"Paul Coughlin is challenging our thinking on what it means to be God's man in the twenty-first century. The apostle Paul pens in 1 Corinthians 16:13, 'Act like men.' That begs the question, What is a man? Coughlin is asking that question. This book is his excellent answer."
--Emerson Eggerichs, Ph.D., Author of Love and Respect: The Love She Most Desires, the Respect He Desperately Needs --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

About the Author

Paul Coughlin writes for a Hollywood public relations firm and has a talk show on Christian radio in southern Oregon. He’s been interviewed by C-SPAN, The New York Times, and radio and television programs across America. Paul’s articles appear in magazines including New Man, Relevant, Faithworks, and Ministries Today, and he’s the author of Secrets, Plots, & Hidden Agendas: What You Don’t Know About Conspiracy Theories. A former Christian nice guy, Paul is happily married and the father of two boys and a girl. The Coughlin family lives in Oregon.

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This book spells out what so many of my single female friends have observed: that so many Christian guys have been imasculated by the church and our culture. This book unpacks how this has happened and what's a guy to do about it. No More Nice Guy also talks about the importance of standing up for justice, especially as a Christian. Jesus was not a wussy doormat as some would lead us to believe. He was a radical with a passion for his people.
As a wife, I found this a great read. It helped me understand my husband better and know how to support him in his passion for defending and supporting others.
This book is worth buying and sharing with your friends.
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HASH(0x9eff92e8) out of 5 stars Good men vs. nice guys Oct. 8 2005
By Erik Olson - Published on
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Years ago, I attended a Passion Play put on by a small church. The guy who played Christ walked through the part like an emotionless robot. Later he regretted showing his bare chest during the crucifixion scene, saying that, "I save it for my wife." It's this kind of limp attitude towards Christ and masculinity that "No More Christian Nice Guy" takes a stand against.

The book is an entry into the "Wild At Heart" and "Tender Warrior" segment of the Christian men's genre. It's the author's contention that male believers have fallen prey to passivity, and also follow an emasculated parody of Christ. His strong face-offs against the Pharisees and other confrontational moments are ignored. Instead, today's "gentle Jesus" kind of man shows no emotion and has no backbone. Many believe that it's better to be a "Christian Nice Guy" (CNG) for the sake of "harmonious fellowship." Rebuke is labeled as "unloving," so people are allowed to continue along harmful paths without needed correction. Risks are avoided in favor of "praying about it first," so crucial ministries go unfilled. And Christian men seeking to be equally yoked are labeled as "predators" by sisters who consider dating a swear word.

I've seen the damaging results of the CNG trend in the church as well, and even bought into some of it despite the protests of my conscience. The author, while praising the original goals of the feminist movement, blames it for shaming men into becoming CNGs. Ironically, modern women express dismay at the CNG, and either avoid dating them or regret marrying one. "No More Christian Nice Guy" calls for men to put on the strong masculinity that women find attractive, but leave behind the macho and chauvinist attitudes that dishonor them. Passive response is rejected in favor of being proactive for God's glory. Showing genuine emotion, taking courageous (not foolhardy) risks, and rebuking wrong behaviors are held up as exemplary behaviors that are helpful to others.

Mr. Coughlin challenges those with a Y chromosome to be good men instead of nice guys. There seems to be a backlash building against the "CNG" phenomenon. I pray that "No More Christian Nice Guy" will continue that trend and encourage a generation of mighty Christian men to come forth.
31 of 31 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9f392414) out of 5 stars A call for Christian men to trade their niceness for genuine goodness Sept. 30 2005
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This is one of those books that makes reviewers like me spend an inordinate amount of time trying to condense the author's premise. It's not because the premise is so complicated; it's because of the myriad filters, grids, and perspectives through which readers approach lightning-rod topics like genderism. A tyrannical, controlling male pastor will read this book, and this review, through a grid similar to the one used by the wife of a tyrannical, controlling Christian man. They'll interpret Paul Coughlin's call for a return to the authentic, biblical Jesus as a role model for Christian men in an entirely different way than would, say, the wife of a passive Christian Nice Guy, the classic CNG.

No matter where you live, no matter where you worship --- no matter where you go, for heaven's sake --- you've met your share of CNGs, Christian Nice Guys who traded in the gospel of Jesus Christ for the gospel of playing it safe. As a former CNG, Coughlin recognizes the fear that keeps these men believing in only a meek and mild Jesus --- and believing this is the only view of Jesus they should emulate. Coughlin likens this bogus portrayal of Jesus to that of a "bearded woman" or a glowing pretty-boy who has just received a "to-die-for facial." But the Jesus of the Gospels, Coughlin writes, operates along the entire "tender-tough spectrum." A meek and mild wimp doesn't overturn the moneychangers' tables or use heavy doses of sarcasm --- even if it is the "blessed sarcasm" used by Jesus, which, Coughlin points out, He inherited from His own Father.

The son of an off-the-charts abusive woman, Coughlin learned early on to play it safe. You'd think a personal encounter with the Lion of Judah would have led him into a life of boldness and adventure, but no. The church intervened and taught him to be a docile CNG who never makes waves, never makes a scene (think of Jesus here!), and thus never makes a difference. A series of revelations caused Coughlin to re-examine the kind of man the church had fashioned him into. (My personal favorite was the time he failed to move quickly enough when a traffic light turned green, and he looked in the rearview mirror to discover that the horn-honking, red-faced, livid driver behind him was none other than his "perfect" pastor.)

A result of those revelations is a changed man who has started what he calls a Good Guy Rebellion --- a call for Christian men to trade in their niceness for genuine goodness, echoing C.S. Lewis's description of Aslan in THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE as a lion who is not safe but good. Good guys, he points out, may not be very popular in churches that want to keep them under their thumb, but the transformation from CNG to Good Guy will earn them the long-lost respect of their wives and children, and steer them into a life of authentic obedience to the powerful God they've wanted to serve all along.

My recommendation? Read this along with Dave Murrow's WHY MEN HATE GOING TO CHURCH. But read it only after you have resolved to approach it with an open mind and with a genuine desire to understand Coughlin's perspective. If you don't read the book in its entirety, you'll miss the big picture. And it's a picture no one in the church should miss, especially CNGs and their wives. Oh, and let's not forget all those CNGs who have left the church for the very reasons that made them CNGs in the first place.
68 of 75 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9f86afe4) out of 5 stars Great Book for the Male Trained to Be Passive by A Church Culture Oct. 21 2005
By Edward J. Vasicek - Published on
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No More Christian Nice Guy is a book targetted toward men who have been convinced (either by family, a particular church, or both) that masculinity is a bad thing, that men are more sinful than women, and that men should embrace a passive stance.

The first few chapters are reactionary and not very good. But, beginning with chapter 5, the book shines. Coughlin emphasizes the importance of male assertiveness, and explains how wimpy men ruin marriages. His chapter on, "We're men, not euncuhs" is excellent. Coughlin tells us there is nothing wrong with being male, and being a Biblical male is different from being the type of male some/many churches advocate.

Scattered throughout the book are deep and meaningful quotations from the likes of C.S. Lewis and other deep thinkers. Though this book is written straight from the shoulder (the author's style is very masculine), and though certain aspects of it seem simplistic, other sections are deep and significant.

Unlike Elderidge's work, Coughlin gives room for men to be different from him (he divides them into Passive, Aggressive, and Assertive). He is clearly targetting, "Christian Nice Guys" (passives) who have been tamed and forced into a feminine mold.

The good points in this book are very good, to the point that they offset the bad points.

What are the bad points? There are a number of inaccuracies in this book, and the author's own experiences color his perspective. Nonetheless, this book is worth reading.

He embraces the mindless use of the term, "the church." But what is "the church?" It is a theological term for the entire family of true believers. What the author means -- and should say (as should countless others) is something like, "the churches with which I am familiar." Many pastors and congregations have worked hard to be a few cuts above; give us credit, will you? On page 61, I wrote my own comment, "Why doesn't this guy find a good church?"

Although this book has its rough edges and a few glaring problems, it is overall an excellent book -- except for those who think they must agree with everything about a book. Such people probably need this book most of all!
43 of 50 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9f5ff78c) out of 5 stars In all things, be men. Sept. 4 2006
By David A. Baer - Published on
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Paul Coughlin's treatise on masculinity for Christian men is unsubtle in tone. His argument is repetitive. His research is narrow and clichéd. He wears his heart too much on his sleeve.

All in all, a very worthwhile book.

Somebody has to raise his voice to get attention when a point of view has its plausibility smothered at the outset by prevailing assumptions and by cultural trends so monolithic as to appear obvious. Until somebody says 'Why?'. Or - in Paul Coughlin's case - 'No way!'

Because I believe this book is a standard-bearer for a reconfiguration of masculinity by Christian men today, I'm going to review it in somewhat more detail than might be expected.

Coughlin is angry, but he's not out of control. If you think those two descriptions are synonymous, you really need to read this book. Anger is not violence. Anger is not rage. Anger is not bad. Equanimity in the face of outrage can be the coldest cut of all. Coughlin wants you to know he's mad for the right reasons, and that his anger has led him and may lead you to constructive engagement rather than withdrawal or violence (whether emotional or physical).

In the first of his eleven chapters ('Christian Nice Guys Aren't So Nice', pp. 13-27), the author rips into what 'the church' has taught guys they are to become. In my judgment, Coughlin's major weakness is his penchant for blaming 'the church' either directly or by use of a damning passive: 'we have been taught ...' To be fair, Coughlin does offer caveats at intervals ('I heard what I wanted to hear'.) Yet he leaves the scent of victimization at the hands of nameless ecclesiastics, something that in his better moments he denies.

At the same time his gift for a turn of phrase is evident from these first pages. 'The church taught me to worry more about sin than purpose, more about keeping up appearances than searching for and embracing meaning. More about what I shouldn't do than what I should do. More about being nice than being good. Fear of failure, of falling short, of trying, but not being perfect, has us paralyzed, immobile, and, eventually, indifferent.'

If Coughlin is even half right about the problem - this reviewer believes he is - then we ought to tolerate a bit of shouting and bad prose on the way to naming the thing.

How did we get here? Coughlin believes the agent was a feminized Jesus, thrust upon us in an attempt to get men to behave *nicely*. As a result, says Coughlin, men stay away from churches in droves.

I'm not competent to say whether men stay away from church en masse for the reason Coughlin cites, though I suspect their reasons for doing so are rather more complicated than that. Still, as a young man I was drawn to a masculine, athletic, self-confident and genuine pastor to my considerable good because his masculinity *contrasted* with that of other Christians I knew. As a product of that and other experiences like it, I can affirm from personal experience that Coughlin is on to something. A more nuanced analysis might take into account that men abandon church for all sorts of reasons, leaving the institution in the hands of women who - quite naturally - shape the place to their own tastes and preferences.

In chapter three, ('Other Earnest but Damaging Church Messages to Men', pp. 48-68), Coughlin introduces one of the most powerful notions of that particular sector of the men's movement that he represents: 'domestication' (sometimes 'over-domestication). Such an idea might seem alien to the working woman who returns to clean up the candy wrappers and beer cans that mark the orbit of the underemployed couch potato who slouches at its center.

Yet for all its photogenic awfulness, this sight is not a part of the life of millions of men who return from *their* consuming job to find babies thrust into their arms, dishwashers waiting to be loaded by them, a spouse or significant other who needs to verbalize the last 14 hours and anticipates full attention as she does. Coughlin is on to an important reality in the lives of many men at this point in feminism's long run into the cultural mainstream.

Women reading this review might feel nudged at this point to sketch out the cumulative acquisition of roles that has weighed *them* down, too, in recent decades. And they'd be right. But this is not the moment. Coughlin is inserting a word edge-wise into a debate that is largely carried out in terms of soccer moms, overworked wives, and the partners of men with the interpersonal aptitude of an over-ripe cabbage. Coughlin wants us to listen for just a moment while he speaks for men who are not like that. And who want to become better.

Coughlin says 'the church' (there he goes again ...) tells men to shift their basic nature from rugged to gentle. He thinks that's the message men least need to hear, though he's aware that rugged is no more synonymous with 'good' than gentle is: 'As broached in chapter 1, it would be much easier and cleaner if the Christian Nice Guy problem were solely the fault of the church's good intentions. But the problem goes deeper. We need to advance our reasoning skills so we can obtain additional insight into ourselves and into God ... We sometimes don't recognize paradox or tension in the Bible or, for that matter, with life in general. Good people are both gentle and rugged, depending on the circumstance (this title is italicized in Coughlin's book). There's no incongruity here.'

Coughlin's model hews to the ancient Christian concept of imitatio dei, in which God - the Rugged and the Gentle par excellence - is the model for human behavior, in this case male human behavior. The church, he thinks, has split God down the middle and told men to act like the gentle half.

Paul Coughlin knows a lot about shame as the fruit of abuse and abandonment, and passivity as its survival strategy. He is the son of an awful woman (Chapter four, 'Childhood, Where We Learned to Live Small', pp. 69-88). If you want to know about her, chapter four will give you enough to make you cringe. Autobiography becomes didactic in that Coughlin claims to have conquered these adaptive deficiencies and to invite other men who have *learned* to live small to do the same.

Women don't respect passive men. I have heard that mantra from many sources, many of them female and a host of them representing ideological angles that would seem to cancel each other out except that they agree on this. As a text critic who knows how to weigh and evaluate disparate exemplars of the same ancient text, I have learned this: when widely varying textual samples agree, you nearly always have an early and genuine reading. So I think it's true: Women don't respect passive men. Coughlin doesn't think so either (Chapter five, 'How Being "Nice" Ruins Love and Marriage', pp. 89-105).

Further, he claims that 'most women don't divorce their husbands due to abuse (only about 6 percent), but because of a general lack of closeness or of "not feeling loved and appreciated".' A pedant might object that most women don't divorce their husbands at all. But Coughlin makes his point. Male passivity is a toxic chemical that is only appropriate in one or two contexts, but leaks like a busted tanker in our generation. To borrow a phrase from popular culture, it isn't what women want.

There is a potent feminist reflex that often kicks in at this point and insists that passive men are better than violent men, and that you only need to visit a women's shelter to absorb the truth of that. This reviewer believes that instinct for polarization of the options is both sad and convenient. Sad, because it masks the truth to well-meaning people (many of them self-declared feminists) who would welcome a good and genuine alternative if they could only see it. Convenient, because like most ideological rigidities it motivates no one to do the hard work of seeking and finding the truth.

Coughlin is not urging violence or self-centered masculinity over against what he considers to be endemic masculine passivity. Though it will be considered a smokescreen by some suspicious readers, Coughlin is calling men to an active engagement with their women that values and nourishes the latter while refusing to assume the diminished role that our culture would reserve for men, sometimes as penitence for crimes against women with which they had literally nothing to do.

I find the author's sixth chapter (We're Men, Not Eunuchs', pp. 106-115) his most poignant. Coughlin is perturbed by a kind of false piety that he believes prevents women from doing the work of discovering their man's sexual needs and responding to them. As a product of Christian and churchly upbringing, I find myself in essential agreement. I estimate that, on those occasions when shared sexual life has become a topic of instruction or pious conversation, perhaps 95% of its burden has been to compel the animal-esque male to be more sensitive to his wife's less earthy needs and pace. Coughlin wants to turn the tables on this and ask whether men can have just a moment to respond. Bravo to him for doing so! My own unscientific polling on this dynamic appears to suggest that the men I know (admittedly, a self-selecting group) are more rather than less knowledgeable about the sexual needs of both genders than their respective partners. Maybe I'm wrong. Probably I'm overstating. But the received truth on this matter lies so far to the other end of the continuum that Coughlin deserves a sympathetic reading as much here as anywhere in his rough-edged book.

Coughlin believes that an emasculated view of men harms boys as well as women and girls (chapter 7, 'Confused to Vilified: Our Culture's View of Masculinity', pp. 116-137). I find it difficult to argue with his conclusions, not least because I've begun counting the number of television advertisements that welcome school children home from a day spent mostly in the care of women (full disclosure: the public school which my two boys attend has superb men as well as women in the classroom) by casting men as buffoons who simply don't get it. I enjoy these ads, too, because they're funny. But I've learned to play the critical observer role by pointing out the cumulative effect on perceptions of gender that this man-as-dingbat trend establishes, something the Third Culture Kid young men in my household, with their savvy ability to triangulate on all assertions of authority, need little help in deconstructing.

Coughlin has clearly been burnt and perhaps burnt badly in the workplace (chapter eight, 'Nice Guy, Naïve Guy: How Being Nice Hurts Men at Work', pp. 138-153). It's impossible to assess the landscape here with only one angle on the proceedings. Some readers will find his warnings about family and over-spiritualized work environments helpful.

Chapters nine and ten are required reading for those who still feel cynical after reading this far into this review. ('Masculinity: The Journey from Nice Guy to Good Guy (Part 1)', pp. 154-167; 'Masculinity: The Journey from Nice Guy to Good Guy (Part 2)', pp. 168-182). There you find Coughlin's celebration of domesticity--in its proper proportions--and a definition of masculinity that ignores the cringing, embraces risk, faces down fear, and actually protects the weak and vulnerable who surround a man. I can hardly think of a more biblical notion. A final chapter tosses words at patches that got missed first time around (chapter ten, 'Practical Help for Your New Life Ahead', pp. 199-224).

So what is Paul Coughlin trying to say, and does it matter?

By my lights, he's a talk-radio host who has taken seriously the oral tradition offered by ten thousand callers and detected a trend that runs counter to conventional gender history but rings true in the hearts of men and women who have found cultural convention to be empty relational calories, drained of character and oversold on taste.

He's chosen to write a man's book for men. I think he's got a woman's book in him, but he has chosen not to lead with that book. A reviewer has to evaluate what an author has actually claimed to write. Coughlin has written a necessary book.

He's over-blamed the church and allowed himself to sound like he and other men are victims. But he's over-written perception--not always effectively--with moments of lucidity that need to be taken as seriously as his occasionally over-heated narrative.

He has asked us to consider whether standard egalitarian ideology has not robbed men of something precious, without which it proves difficult or impossible for them to fulfill a hard-wired calling. He claims that feminism's necessary pendulum-swinging project has been too successful for its own good, that in entering the mainstream this dialectical movement has not become stuck (temporarily, but too long) in the 'antithesis' position.

He has not sketched out in any detail what a new synthesis might look like. He has merely stated with some passion that where we are right now ain't it.

Bully for Coughlin. May Nice Guys turn into Good Guys in droves and make us forget the day when the Cult of Niceness was the law of the land. Women *and* men will rejoice in that day.
38 of 44 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9f575b7c) out of 5 stars Help for those with a weak view of masculinity Feb. 22 2009
By Laurence T. Baxter - Published on
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The book 'No More Christian Nice Guy' sounded like a great title, with chapters like "Childhood, where we learned to live small", "We're Men, not Eunuchs", "God: Lion or Cocker Spaniel". But the more I read, the more I found it hard to identify with either the problem or the solution. About half-way through the reason for this became clear, when the author discussed how his mother had abused him both physically and emotionally.

Coughlin's book may be of tremendous value to those who suffer from what he refers to as a "Christian Nice Guy" syndrome, whose background has left them with an anemic view of masculinity, or who think that to be a good Christian is to be a doormat. He does an excellent job of dispelling the myth that Jesus was weak, and the wrong view of meekness. This alone earns the book a pair of stars.

In general though, the book leans far too much into trying to turn this kind of 'nice guy' into someone who embraces outrage. While I wouldn't say the book is unbiblical (it makes a number of excellent points), it does seem to draw as much from culture and psychology as from scripture. For example, here's his definition: "Biblical masculinity is guys doing what God wants guys to do, and doing it in line with their true identity..." Can't argue with that, but it defines nothing. Another example, in the chapter on practical help, when he cherishes seeing his pastor (who is the mark of perfection in the pulpit) seethe in anger when he got stuck behind him in traffic. It made him "instantly more comfortable in his own skin". Rather than addressing the pastor's inauthentic hypocrisy, his focus is more on how seeing other people fail makes him feel.

While I couldn't recommend this as the "one men's book you want to read", it does provides valuable lessons for those who think Christianity is for wimps or for those men who suffer when they consider their own masculinity.