I tried the Finish Quantum Max Ultimate clean and shine, which promises sparkling dishes and guess what? My glasses and dishes actually did seem to come out cleaner. I even gave it the test of not pre-rinsing and the dried on ketchup and egg (the really amazing one) even came off. And it's easy to use, just one tablet in the detergent cup. The lasagna pan needed a bit of help though. With the rinse agent, the glasses are a lot less cloudy. The dishwasher cleaner really helped to clean my dishwasher...I couldn't believe it was almost white again! It's great to get them all in one pack.